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What impact will Donald Trump's election have on Poland?


TicTacToe
23 Nov 2016  #181
Trump isn't in office yet, you can't judge him just yet.
Crow 137 | 7,648
25 Nov 2016  #182
I just learned via my very good Sarmatian connections, that Hungarian Orban had telephone conversation with Trump. Orban is called to come to USA. He said to Trump that he for long time didn`t come to USA because he got treatment as `black sheep` there. On that Trump told him: ``Me, too.``

See, if Hungary can stop to be `black sheep` for USA, after all if Trump can, Poland can, too.
Crow 137 | 7,648
26 Nov 2016  #183
After Slavic (Polish) Pope, Poland would be eventually visited by Slavic (Slovenian) USA first lady Melania Trump.

Melania Trump FULL SPEECH at Pennsylvania Trump Rally

youtube.com/watch?v=Wjx_ysYHJNo
peterweg 36 | 2,316
28 Nov 2016  #184
Eastern Europe Must Prepare for the Worst about Trump

Europe, or what remains of the entity in a Trumpian world, must come to grips with the possibility that, within a year or two, Russian tanks could be stationed on the European Union's eastern borders

atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/eastern-europe-must-prepare-for-the-worst-about-trump
mafketis 20 | 7,344
28 Nov 2016  #185
After Slavic (Polish) Pope, Poland would be eventually visited by Slavic (Slovenian) USA first lady Melania Trump.

So? Slovenians went to war to get away from Serbs and Serbia....
OP Wincig 2 | 187
28 Nov 2016  #186
@mafketis
Who wouldn't??
Crow 137 | 7,648
28 Nov 2016  #187
So? Slovenians went to war to get away from Serbs and Serbia....

Foreign sponsors initiated destruction of Yugoslavia.
mafketis 20 | 7,344
28 Nov 2016  #188
I was in a museum in Ljubljana (nice city, if a bit rainy) that said different.
Wulkan - | 3,251
28 Nov 2016  #189
atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/eastern-europe-must-prepare-for-the-worst-about-trump

They cannot, as Obama recommended, "wait until the administration is in place" and then "make your judgments as to whether or not it's consistent with the international community's interest in living in peace and prosperity together."

Russian President Vladimir Putin's tanks could be on the outskirts of Estonian capital Tallinn by then.

Asteroid with the size of USA could hit the earth by then too. I expect the latter more likely to happen.
Crow 137 | 7,648
28 Nov 2016  #190
I was in a museum in Ljubljana (nice city, if a bit rainy) that said different.

sure. They were sponsored. Germany was main sponsor. Still, Serbian influence returning there, same as in Bosnia and allover the former Yugoslavia, except Croatia. In Croatia Germany stabbed its flag deeply.
cms 9 | 1,272
29 Nov 2016  #191
Crow I don't know how old you were when these events were happening, but the reality is that Croatia and Slovenia wanted to get away from a Serb run commie state because they could see their neighbours like Poland and Hungary already on a path to freedom and prosperity in the EU. Germany, only recently reunited, was simple acknowledging reality of the changes in Central Europe.

And at least in a material sense they made a wise choice - Slovenia has gdp per head 4x that of Serbia. Croatia is twice as richas Serbia.
mafketis 20 | 7,344
29 Nov 2016  #192
Croatia and Slovenia wanted to get away from a Serb run commie state

I remember back in the early 90s talking with a Croat who said that his family was fine with Jugoslavija until Milosevic started ranting about Greater Serbia (which included Split where they lived). They didn't mind being in a federated state with Serbia but directly under Zagreb but absolutely did not want to be governed directly from Belgrade.....

And once he let the nationalist genie out of the bottle the only end state was going to be six separate countries.

Please back on topic
johnny reb 17 | 3,889
29 Nov 2016  #193
Poland will soon see what President Trump, a "business man", can do to stimulate America's economy and may take some pointers.
Poland and the Progressive Liberals won't get it, until a couple of YEAR's have gone by and our ECONOMY is "HUMMINMG" again,.....and the rest of the World SEES what a REAL business man can do to TURN AROUND our markets.

Barry obama is nothing more than a community organizer.... You already know that.
He only works with OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY !
Right OR WRONG, GOOD OR BAD, SUCCESS OR FAILURE....these ARE THINGS THAT ARE NOT COUNTED !
IT'S JUST ABOUT HOW IT MAKES YOU "FEEL" = THAT'S THE LIBERAL PROGRESSIVE WAY !
Poland will see and understand why America has fallen into such great debt (21 TRILLION) now under obama.
Socialism does not work, never has worked, nor ever will work.
"Useful Idiots" are what the guy named Yakov Dzhugashvili called 'em (Liberals) !
The World KNOWS him as JOSEPH STALIN !

I REST MY Case !
Lyzko 23 | 6,659
29 Nov 2016  #194
New York City too thought that what she needed was a "(monkey-)businessman, and we elected Ed Koch, Reagan's little puppet from hell!!

Typically Republican, Koch (much as with Trump) was famous for that whacko, not to mention mean-spirited, phrase: "It's not if you're movin', it's WHEN you're movin'!"

As per usual, there's no trace of a hint as to the most important (yet of course, unanswered) question, "WHERE???"

Trump's slash-and-burn style of business dealing reminds this observer a heck of a lot of that corporate takeover fella Al Dunlap during the early 90's, who'd come into a company, fire half the staff who really needed the work, and then gave both himself as well as the top brass golden parachutes which'd make your head spin!!!

Yup, Trump's right in form. Hey, maybe he should make great decision by getting rid of Pence and hiring Sarah "Nut-Job" Palin as VeepLOL

:-)

I don't wish Trump on Poland!
Crow 137 | 7,648
2 Dec 2016  #195
Judging by last Trump`s and Tusk`s statements, directions and priorities of USA and Poland`s politics starting to differ. Seriously. Even to antagonize. So, if in its foreign politics rely too much on major EU powers such are Britain, France and Germany, Poland may found itself in unpleasant situation. Very unpleasant.

And if I may say, all that absolutely unnecessary.
OP Wincig 2 | 187
3 Dec 2016  #196
Do you realize that Tusk no longer speaks for the Polish government?
Crow 137 | 7,648
3 Dec 2016  #197
I hope, I hope.
OP Wincig 2 | 187
8 Dec 2016  #198
@Crow
although he might quite soon, i understand he might be returning to Poland in the not too distant future
Crow 137 | 7,648
18 Jan 2017  #200
Seams that Trump saving Europeans from western European domination. Like in WWII, no matter opposing to each other, USA and Russia works together, while many even aren`t aware of it.
OP Wincig 2 | 187
18 Jan 2017  #201
Seams that Trump saving Europeans from western European domination

Trump does not care for Europe, full stop. Today it is Western Europe who is disappointed by him, tomorrow it will be Central and Eastern Europe's turn.
Atch 17 | 2,893
18 Jan 2017  #202
Absolutely true Wincig.

He wanted to build a wall up to 4.5 metres high, along a protected stretch of beautiful Irish coastline to protect his precious golf course from flooding. He shouldn't have put a golf course there in the first place, the ignorant chump. He recently abandoned his plans for the wall citing EU bureaucracy as the reason and claiming that the EU was hindering Irish development. The actual truth is that the local planning committee in Co Clare refused his application. No doubt he thought that because he's Donald Trump he could throw his weight around in the same manner he would do State Side. I'm sure he was quite surprised to be told 'no'.

The man is completely unsuited to political office but he's just another in a long line of similar characters who dominate American politics. I can't see how his election is of any benefit to Poland.
nothanks - | 640
18 Jan 2017  #203
Trump does not care for Europe, full stop. Today it is Western Europe who is disappointed by him, tomorrow it will be Central and Eastern Europe's turn.

"Make AMERICA Great Again"

Where does it say anything about Europe in that phrase? Europeans (especially Westeners) have to grow a nutsack and put themselves first. No one is gonna come to Europes rescue.

At the least Trump won't preach/pressure or forcefeed diversity/multiculturalism which is the #1 issue in Europe today. No more Obama roaming the globe preaching about how racist White people are.

Todays political climate is obvious: look inward. Look after your own. No one is gonna come pick up your Muslim refugees LOL. And Poland needs to find an adult solution to Russia. Depending on Black-Americans to "protect us" is one of the most embarrassing Polish actions of the past 100 years.
Crow 137 | 7,648
18 Jan 2017  #204
Trump is wise. He knows that would Russia unleash its wrath on western Europe so he prepare ground for USA`s withdrawal from the path of collision.
cms 9 | 1,272
18 Jan 2017  #205
No maybe the US does not have to come to our rescue. But do we have to buy your overpriced f16s ? We could always cancel a few orders and see how that goes down in Indiana or wherever they make the parts. And do we have to supply empty airfields for the US to beat up and torture terrorists ? Or will you do that in Kentucky now ? Is it worth protecting free and rich markets for Marlboro, Ford, KFC and Amazon or is a peaceful Europe expendable ? Or maybe you like some of the nice things Europeans make - not just cheese and chocolate but many useful things that Americans like to buy.

Life is not as simple as you think
Crow 137 | 7,648
18 Jan 2017  #206
Primary sanity suggest that would western Europe suffer because provoking Russia. And not that USA won`t be against Russia but, rather, USA would seek to profit on it. Really, what western Europe of these days have in common with USA. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Western Europe sponsoring Islam and Nazism. See, its all disgusting to US. Very disgusting.

So, purification thru pain.
przyjacielPL
18 Jan 2017  #207
Trump said that Merkel did a bad decision by invinting millions of muslims. He was right about that yet no media was talking about it.

Trump may say stupid stuff at times or in a hurry or without thinking but overall he has very good insights,intuition.
Thats why he won. He applied the ideas of his own book called "Think Big".

Trump wants Europe to take their own responsability and he is right.
As for the situation in Poland : polish people would to rely more into their own army and maybe prepare for making lot of babies to have soldiers :).

Europe in general is having les and less young so how can we maintain an army if people make lot less babies ?
Europe should really focus on themselves, stop mass immigration , make baby boom happens for europeans.
OP Wincig 2 | 187
18 Jan 2017  #208
@Crow
brate Crow, your English is getting worse and worse. The first sentence you wrote is totally ununderstandable.
Crow 137 | 7,648
18 Jan 2017  #209
Don`t worry dobri brate pane Wincige. That is artistic approach to English, with strong influence of Slavicized English.
Lyzko 23 | 6,659
18 Jan 2017  #210
Wincig, Crow's too set in his ways to even desire to improve. Like others of his ilk, he feels he has nothing to improve upon and that we non-Slavic outsiders, interlopers, should be eternally grateful to them for knowing at least a little English, as we surely cannot know THEIR language:-)

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