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IBM fears racist attacks on employees on Poland's independence day


Harry
5 Nov 2015  #1
This really is sad, I hoped that Poland was beginning to leave the knuckle-dragging racist morons behind.

The Wrocław branch of the multinational technology firm IBM, located in southwest Poland, has warned its staff against venturing into the city center on Independence Day 11 November.

On the day that marks Poland's regaining of independence in 1918, several thousand people take part in what is known as the Patriot March. The event is organised by far right groups, including the National Rebirth of Poland (NOP). The radical nationalist party's latest marches have continuously been targeting refugees, with participants chanting "F**k Arabs," writes the Wrocław supplement of daily Gazeta Wyborcza. IBM Wrocław's international personnel, hailing from 63 countries across the globe [...]

Full article here: thenews/1/9/Artykul/227644,IBM-fears-racist-attacks-on-employees-on-Polands-independence-day

As an aside, the slogan for this year's riot in Warsaw is "Polska dla Polaków. Polacy dla Polski", a nice touch, as none of the racist morons who take part ever do anything for Poland (other than those of them who moved to the UK or Ireland and thus made Poland a much nicer place).
G (undercover)
5 Nov 2015  #2
Yawn... it's far safer than majority of western cities.
OP Harry
5 Nov 2015  #3
Yes, and it would be even safer, and more pleasant, if the knuckle-dragging morons were on the end of the sound kicking from police that most of them so clearly deserve.
Sparks11 - | 335
5 Nov 2015  #4
You arent left enough to tolerate those whose opinions differ. Regarding the violence. The can finally See what itp line to have No-go zones in a city.
G (undercover)
5 Nov 2015  #5
if the knuckle-dragging morons were on the end of the sound kicking from police

They will be (either far-left or any other group) if they become violent. It's that simple.
Crow 137 | 7,595
5 Nov 2015  #6
Ooooo, pressure on Poland already starting. They have predictions and expectations. You know how would that finish? Western Europe would label Poland as nationalistic and racist, while it is exactly western Europe who creates preconditions for that. Then, when they once label Poland as problematic, Silesian extremists would get signal from Germany and start loudly to ask for independence. When political demands fails, Silesian extremists would become hostile. When Poland respond, western Europeans would recognize independence of Silesia.

That is so called Kosovo scenario that many already predicted for Poland. Its all seen already.
InPolska 11 | 1,821
5 Nov 2015  #7
Every 11/11 I stay at my place to be safe. I used to live right in Centrum where all the "action" takes place. I could watch them from my kitchen window ;)
chaffinchs - | 4
5 Nov 2015  #8
This really is sad. People must think of polish employees in the company. If something like this happens and IBM decides to move from here, then it will be a big blow for us.
InPolska 11 | 1,821
5 Nov 2015  #9
Yes, Chaff, but maybe IBM and consorts would rather work in more tolerant countries.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
5 Nov 2015  #10
Ooooo, pressure on Poland already starting.

Western Europe would label Poland as nationalistic and racist

True. It is already happening. Corpos often come up with such nonsense but a fact that it's picked up by the media shows that both internal and external enemies are already "working".

but maybe IBM and consorts would rather work in more tolerant countries.

They won't because:
1. They employ mostly Poles and exploit them due to lower wages.
2. Their employees (be it Polish or foreign) wouldn't be safer in the so called "more tolerant countries". Don't say you're going to tell us that Polish or let's say Indian employees of IBM would be safer in London or Paris :))))
delphiandomine 83 | 17,626
5 Nov 2015  #11
both internal and external enemies are already "working".

Already talking about imaginary enemies, are we?
Crow 137 | 7,595
5 Nov 2015  #12
Grzegorze brate, but don`t worry. Poland would from this chaos in Europe and world emerge stronger then ever. They work but they mistaken for they attacked Yugoslavia and Serbians first. So they disturbed many powerful interests that Serbians traditionally holds in balance (Russia, China, India, Brazil, Non-Aligned movement countries- even many Muslim countries within). They already feel that they loosing control but for sure, even wounded, they would inflict harm on Poland and it would be their last mistake before Poland escapes them and form Intermarium as its ultimate respond. When this all finish, history would remember that Serbians bought time to humanity to make transition from Uni-Polar onto the Multi-Polar world.

Not to mention how are Polish, Czech, Slovak, Slovenian, Serbian and Bulgarian patriots connected now. Poland isn`t alone. As for Russia, times changed. Russia understand very well that if now betray Poland, all Slavs would turn against Russia and in this historical moment it would certainly mean end for Slavic world. Our last mutual idiotic conflict before oblivion. But, it won`t happen. Forget that dark scenario. i am sure (all Russians signals are clear), this time, Russia calculates that her vital interests suggest to support Poland and to accept that Poland strengthen.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
5 Nov 2015  #13
Already talking about imaginary enemies, are we?

Why "imaginary" ? Let's take a look at PF, your buddy H. posted similar stuff the 2nd time over several days. I didn't see him posting much of it just several weeks or months ago. Black PR is a weapon commonly employed by corporations but also by governments, political fractions etc. Just look how effective Russians were at giving Ukrainians the "nazi" image. And it's working. For majority of people in the west it's "uh it's some conflict between commies and nazis, let's stay away from this mess" and when people think so, it has an effect on governments.
trucker1
5 Nov 2015  #14
fact that it's picked up by the media shows that both internal and external enemies are already "working".

Asolutely! It bears similarity to bad rap given to Poland and Ukraine before Euro 2012."You could come back in a coffin" and all that.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,626
5 Nov 2015  #15
Why "imaginary" ?

Because it's the usual tactic used by false populists to scare everyone. Hitler, Franco, Putin, Orban - all of them have used exactly the same tactic of imaginary enemies to great effect.

All IBM did was warn their employees that it's a wise idea to stay away because there's the likelihood of trouble.
trucker1
5 Nov 2015  #16
I just looked up that article and as the source they list,guess who? G(ó)W(no)! aka Kosher Gazette for Poles. Szechter and his gang continue their anti Polish campaign. Nothing new here but how much longer it will be tolerated?
jon357 63 | 14,122
5 Nov 2015  #17
)W(no)! aka Kosher Gazette for Poles. Szechte

anti Polish

internal and external enemies

What's with all the fascists getting touchy about a company giving safety advice to Staff? It's as if they take it personally.

And probably enjoy seeing (on TV or online) pictures of the racist hooligans ripping up paving stones and burning out OB trucks. After all, they both live abroad so it isn't their money that pays for the repairs.
Levi 12 | 450
5 Nov 2015  #18
It is not racism when they want to rape your children, behead you if you don't convert or pay jyzia, and install sharia.
jon357 63 | 14,122
5 Nov 2015  #19
ehead you if you don't convert or pay jyzia

What's your endless inadequate dribbling about Muslims got to do with the annual fascist riots in Poland?
gregy741 4 | 1,204
5 Nov 2015  #20
jon do you actually have any idea about fascism ideology?or even definition?
jon357 63 | 14,122
5 Nov 2015  #21
Well Greggs, as you know (though somehow I suspect you don't) fascism is notoriously hard to define, though I tend to go with Adorno's classic definition.

The organisers of the annual fascist riots however, fit that description in every sense and are proud of it. Which is why most people avoid such rabble, and given the violence in certain cities caused by these fascist hooligans, any company employing a diverse workforce is to be commended for looking after their safety.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
5 Nov 2015  #22
Hitler, Franco, Putin, Orban - all of them have used exactly the same tactic of imaginary enemies to great effect.

Orban is actually a good example of black PR action. He was demonized all across Europe and got "dictator" image only because he made some troubles for "international corporations" ripping off Hungary.

All IBM did was warn their employees that it's a wise idea to stay away because there's the likelihood of trouble.

Yes and that's what "international corporations" very often do across the world. Why it was picked up by the "media" is another story...

I just looked up that article and as the source they list,guess who? G(ó)W(no)!

LOL ! What a "surprise" :))))

What's with all the fascists getting touchy about a company giving safety advice to Staff? It's as if they take it personally.

Edited.. you've got much much more in common with fascism than I do. And it's not us that go crazy over the IBM's "advice" but your Gów... "brothers". We just comment on the reasons they do it...
Polsyr 6 | 769
5 Nov 2015  #23
I heard this from an Indian friend that works there before it went on the news. And not only them. A MAJOR outsourcing company in Warsaw (that employs thousands) has issued similar advice to their employees - one of which also happens to be a friend.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
5 Nov 2015  #24
in Warsaw

Dunno if this has already appeared somewhere on PF, but President Duda's office last week said he would not be attending the Nationalist March nor staging a counter-march of his own the way Komoruski did.
milky 13 | 1,657
6 Nov 2015  #25
A day where more and more right thinking Poles feel ashamed to be Polish.
Wulkan - | 3,251
6 Nov 2015  #26
I'm ashamed when some idiots try to interfere the march.
jon357 63 | 14,122
6 Nov 2015  #27
You shouldn't feel ashamed. It isn't your fault in any sense. Although those hooligans may pretend they're acting in the name of or on the behalf of Poland; they aren't. They don't have mass support, Poland has (and has always had) many different opinions and points of view. Those guys ripping up paving stones take advantage of that freedom however they don't respect it.
G (undercover)
6 Nov 2015  #28
Those guys ripping up paving stones take advantage of that freedom however they don't respect it.

Or burning the guardbox at the Russian embassy !

Oh wait, that was actually done by PO "government" to blame it on "far-right" :))))))
delphiandomine 83 | 17,626
6 Nov 2015  #29
Orban is actually a good example of black PR action. He was demonized all across Europe and got "dictator" image only because he made some troubles for "international corporations" ripping off Hungary.

Clearly you don't know much about Hungarian politics if you think that's all he did.

A lot of his actions were barely reported abroad - such as revoking licences of opposition radio stations, only allowing tobacco sales in special shops owned by Fidesz supporters and so on. If you think that he's got an image solely because of him taxing a few foreign businesses, you're wrong.

Dunno if this has already appeared somewhere on PF, but President Duda's office last week said he would not be attending the Nationalist March nor staging a counter-march of his own the way Komoruski did.

That's not a surprise. PiS know fine well that the march will get out of hand (again) and they want nothing to do with it.
milky 13 | 1,657
6 Nov 2015  #30
PiS know fine well that the march will get out of hand (again) and they want nothing to do with it.

Maybe so, but they are always willing to turn a blind eye when their boot-boys are terrorising the opposition.


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