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Too much history in Poland?


Polonius3 1,000 | 12,467
25 Jul 2013  #1
There's a draft proposal of a Sejm reoslution honouring the vicitms of the Augsutów raid (obława augiustowska) of 1945, when the NKVD and their Polish flunkies cracked down on Polish freedom-fighters, 600 of whom were captured and shipped to the USSR, newver to be heard form again.

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ob%C5%82awa_augustowska
Without going into that particular episode, the quesiton arises (sometimes heard from foreigners visitng Poland or following Polish online news) that Poland is too absorbed with its own history and is living in the past. Wołyń, 'Unsere Mütter...', the Powązki excavation of UB victims' remains, the continued search for the missing 4,000 'Katyń' victims and many other examples seem to justify that view. What do you think?
delphiandomine 85 | 17,824
25 Jul 2013  #2
What do you think?

That the Sejm should concentrate on what matters now and leave the history business to the IPN.

The Sejm is not for discussing the past, but the future.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,467
25 Jul 2013  #3
The Sejm is not for discussing the past, but the future

Good point. The families of vicitms have a right to learn of their loved ones' fate and burial sites but via channels other than the Sejm. Makes sense.
Kowalski 7 | 621
25 Jul 2013  #4
Some of the so many historical reenactment events like ...Wolyn massacre where they build straw houses, set them on fire and run around with pitchforks pretending the murder are so annoying. It has often nothing to do with commemorating victims or educating, rather being a form of silly entertainment. After Wolyn reenactment I'm waiting for some to show us reenactment of holocaust in concentration camps...

too much history
delphiandomine 85 | 17,824
25 Jul 2013  #5
I'm all for the IPN working in a purely non-political role to establish what really happened, staying away from "resolutions" and "declarations" and instead working to establish the facts in Polish history. But they should also refrain from getting involved in party politics - all source material must be available (online?) to be examined by everyone interested, and anyone getting involved in politics should immediately be barred from working at the IPN.

Imagine if anyone could write to the IPN and receive an answer with what happened and where, free from political bias and heavy on facts?

There's no need to drag up the past in the Sejm - apart from when passing laws designed to make sure that the same never happens again.
TheOther 5 | 3,749
25 Jul 2013  #6
that Poland is too absorbed with its own history and is living in the past.

Judging from the discussions on PF and how Polish politicians sometimes act on the international stage, I would conclude that they are totally obsessed with their history... :)
jon357 64 | 14,382
25 Jul 2013  #7
Too much history in Poland?

Not 'too much', but too much that tries to hard to prove points, rather than objectively facing those bits of the past that hurt.


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