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GDP of Poland.. 338 billion pop-38.5mil Cali GDP 1.7 Trillion pop-37.7mil


jwojcie 2 | 763
29 Jan 2010 #31
No, I don't rember any changes in recent years, but I must add I didn't follow it to closely.
If you are thinking about something like difference in USA between headline U-3 and U-6 then I haven't seen such clasification in Poland. But I must add, that in Poland part time workers also don't fall in unemployed category as long as they receive half of minimum wage.
Sokrates 8 | 3,346
29 Jan 2010 #32
Does poland lack wealth b/c its just fresh out of communism?

Mostly yes, 40~ of central planning require a similar time to rectify the damage.
convex 20 | 3,978
29 Jan 2010 #33
But I must add, that in Poland part time workers also don't fall in unemployed category as long as they receive half of minimum wage.

I saw that too in the wikipedia link.

The reason that I ask is, lets take 2006 for example. Unemployment fell from 17.6% to 14.9% with the creation of 31,000 jobs (this may be off, got it from E&Y, up for better sources). From a labor force of about 17 million, 17.6% is about 3,000,000 unemployed 14.9% is 2,500,000. Do you think that half a million jobs were created in 2006? It seems like something is missing.

Just seems kind of strange, the only thing that I could think of would be some sort of changes being applied to unemployment criteria.
bullfrog 6 | 603
29 Jan 2010 #34
Do you think that half a million jobs were created in 2006? It seems like something is missing.

The denominator changed: the labor base shrunk considerably due to Poles' emigration to other EU countries
convex 20 | 3,978
29 Jan 2010 #35
If you take 500,000 emigres out of the available labor pool, you still end up with about 450,000 jobs created in order to give a 3% decline in unemployment. That would only work everyone that emigrated was unemployed. Looking over the longer term, to get from 20% unemployment to the current 10%(ish), there either were a lot of jobs created, or 1.7million million unemployed poles emigrated.

Do you know if the majority of the emigres were officially registered as unemployed in Poland?
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
29 Jan 2010 #36
It has been correctly said that California is like a breakfast cereal. When you take away the fruits and nuts, only the flakes are left!
jeden - | 226
29 Jan 2010 #37
In 2009 the California economic crisis became severe as the state faces insolvency.[51]

In June 2009 Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said "Our wallet is empty, our bank is closed and our credit is dried up."

unemplyment 2009 12.1%

OOpss. Something went wrong...;)
convex 20 | 3,978
29 Jan 2010 #38
California was always kind of like the guy that used to live next door that always used to buy new stuff to show off. The one that talked crap about his poor neighbors. You know, the guy that now lives in his parents basement eating noodles and listening to NPR.
grubas 12 | 1,391
1 Feb 2010 #39
No this is bcoz this country have had 2 world wars fought on its territory.Came out of the second ww as a biggest loser ,losing 30% of its territory ,germans and soviets took whatever they could,industry was completly destroyed or taken by invaders.then found itself under communist rule(partially thanks to its "allies")for another 45years.And I DO NOT find it humorous.
McCoy 27 | 1,275
1 Feb 2010 #40
Does poland lack wealth b/c its just fresh out of communism? Is it because of a lack of natural resources? OR is it because of the work ethic of polish workers? Is it because of the social low standing of poland vs other more well liked places?

yes
convex 20 | 3,978
1 Feb 2010 #42
yes

exactly

California is fail.

epic fail, close to zimbabwe fail
krysia 23 | 3,057
1 Feb 2010 #43
And I DO NOT find it humorous.

hahaha another funny polak joke
TheOther 6 | 3,821
1 Feb 2010 #44
No this is bcoz this country have had 2 world wars fought on its territory

One world war, one ...
jeden - | 226
1 Feb 2010 #45
One world war, one ...

There were 2 world wars...

the first 1914

secend 1939
TheOther 6 | 3,821
1 Feb 2010 #46
There were 2 world wars

Is that right... ;)

Only one world war was fought on Polish territory - WW2. During WW1 Poland did not exist. Clearer?
jonni 16 | 2,485
1 Feb 2010 #47
Only one world war was fought on Polish territory - WW2. During WW1 Poland did not exist. Clearer?

There was a lot of fighting during WWI on what is now Polish territory. There are at least two Commonwealth war cemeteries from WWI in Poland. And Polish people were fighting in WWI, albeit on both sides.
jeden - | 226
1 Feb 2010 #48
This is partially true... Poland didn`t take part in wwI, but polish soldiers and organisations yes. What`s more, a lot of cities in later polish territory have been destroyed... There lived Poles and their houses, manufactures were destroyed.
TheOther 6 | 3,821
1 Feb 2010 #49
jonni
I was only refering to grubas statement that there were 2 world wars fought on Polish territory. That is simply wrong, because legally there was no Polish territory during WW1.
jonni 16 | 2,485
1 Feb 2010 #50
no Polish territory during WW1.

You are right in that it wasn't Poland as a legal entity, but they were preparing for independence, and it was Poland as a geographical and national description.

The invsion of £ódż and Warsaw during WWI was, as i understand it, fairly well received, since the Russians had been ruthless with conscription.
CrisisMaven
1 Feb 2010 #51
About GDP comparisons: I have just added a Reference List (crisismaven.wordpress.com/references/)to my economics blog with economic data series, history, bibliographies etc. for students & researchers.
jwojcie 2 | 763
2 Feb 2010 #52
Just seems kind of strange, the only thing that I could think of would be some sort of changes being applied to unemployment criteria.

I dig out some GUS data, and it seems that according to them in 2006 almost half a milion jobs were indeed added... post link to your E&Y data and maybe someone on the forum will spot where is the difference. Here you have "ECONOMIC ACTIVITY OF THE POPULATION IN 2003-2007":

stat.gov.pl/cps/rde/xbcr/gus/PUBL_pw_aktyw_ekonom_ludnosci_2003_2007.pdf

From personal experience I must say that it is not hard to believe in that number. As I remember that year, job pages in newspapers were thick like a book and on every other store window there were job adverts too. 2006 was quite good year indeed...
pawian 168 | 11,175
19 Sep 2012 #53
Not to mention Poland has been around for much longer than cali.

Has Cali grown in the same way as Poland since 2008? :):):)

tradingeconomics.com/poland/gdp
logantyler - | 2
27 Sep 2012 #54
As someone from California, I can say that this state is a joke. Some parts of California look like a third world country.
PennBoy 76 | 2,437
27 Sep 2012 #55
GDP of Poland.. 338 billion pop-38.5mil Cali GDP 1.7 Trillion pop-37.7mil

Philadelphia the CITY where I live in has a population of 1.5 million and GDP of $388 billion!
Avalon 4 | 1,068
27 Sep 2012 #56
Glad to see that the EU is not the only place they like to waste money.

beforeitsnews.com/libertarian/2012/09/the-california-train-to-nowhere-2454656.html
pawian 168 | 11,175
27 Sep 2012 #57
Philadelphia the CITY where I live in has a population of 1.5 million and GDP of $388 billion!

Better check twice what you write. :):):):)
PennBoy 76 | 2,437
27 Sep 2012 #58
You are the typical stupid highlander aren't you? The Delaware Valley contains the headquarters of twelve Fortune 500 corporations, four of which are in Philadelphia proper. With a gross domestic product of $388 billion, Philadelphia ranks ninth among world cities and fourth in the nation.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia

The US, GDP is 15 trillion catching on???
pawian 168 | 11,175
27 Sep 2012 #59
You are the typical stupid highlander aren't you?

I may be stupid but I am still three times smarter than you, you quarterwit. :):):)

I said: check the data you provided and correct your silly mistake.

Philadelphia the CITY where I live in has a population of 1.5 million and GDP of $388 billion!

Are you intelligent enough to see your blunder or not?
PennBoy 76 | 2,437
27 Sep 2012 #60
I may be stupid but I am still three times smarter than you,

I seriously doubt that.

Philadelphia

''As of the 2010 Census, the city had a population of 1,526,006'' ''With a gross domestic product of $388 billion, Philadelphia ranks ninth among world cities and fourth in the nation''

All looks good to me...

GDP you mention refers to the whole metropolitan area of Philadelphia which amounts to 6 million people, not just 1.5.

That's not my fault, it didn't mention the metropolitan area it said Philadelphia which has a population of 1.5 million and is a CITY like I said. And i knew the metro population and where it begins and ends way before you looked it up on your little computer. You've never even actually been here. Whoever wrote that in wikipedia was wrong! He should have written metropolitan Philadelphia, when you just say Philadelphia you're talking strictly about the city itself. Metro Philly is also completely different cities like Trenton, Bristol, Camden, West Chester, Wilmington spread over three different states!!


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