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Poland's fight against paedophilia


hyperamazing 2 | 16
29 Oct 2008 #1
Poland is to become the first EU country to impose chemical castration on convicted paedophiles.

Legislation is being pushed through the country's parliament to make the procedure compulsory for all sex criminals who pose a risk to others.

The method involves giving convicted paedophiles drugs which take away their sexual urges.

Calls for the introduction of chemical castration have arisen following a recent incest case that shocked the country.

In a story reminiscent of that of Josef Fritzl, a 45-year-old man was arrested in Poland a fortnight ago accused of fathering two children by his young daughter.

What do you think about this legislation?

Bless You All!
loco polaco 3 | 354
29 Oct 2008 #2
after this i better not hear another peep about dr. mengela ever again from any pole living in PL.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,387
29 Oct 2008 #3
What do you think about this legislation?

It seems that chemical castration comes after the crime. When it is too late.

Those who are driven to paedophilia will still commit the crime.

And what good is castration when these people should be in prison

Or are we now saying that chemical castration is now the sentence and we won't bother with prison.
Bzibzioh
29 Oct 2008 #4
This reminded me of the story in USA when one pedophile asked to be chemically castrated because he knew he'll reoffend (sp?) on leaving the prison but was told by the court - NO.

I don't think any country come with a successful solution yet. They are human beings but they are not preferable neighbors to anyone; let’s not kidd yourself. Letting them go loose after finishing prison term and all those obligatory registration lists are not working.

If it were done on voluntary base I would not have a problem with this. Unless there is a better solution.
OP hyperamazing 2 | 16
29 Oct 2008 #5
Or are we now saying that chemical castration is now the sentence and we won't bother with prison.

I think this would be a good idea that there should be no prison but casteration... that would be a good punishment....
Bzibzioh
29 Oct 2008 #6
Prison is a punishment for the crime. Castration is prevention against future crimes.
McCoy 27 | 1,276
29 Oct 2008 #7
outfcukingstanding idea. personaly i would put the bullet in the heads of this scums.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,387
29 Oct 2008 #8
Prison is a punishment for the crime

This is my point.

Castration is prevention against future crimes.

So now we pre-judge people.

Let's chop the hands off burglars. Just in case !
McCoy 27 | 1,276
29 Oct 2008 #9
no, let the paedophile do it again and again waiting for his resocialization
Wroclaw 44 | 5,387
29 Oct 2008 #10
McCoy,

My point is that this new legislation makes no sense.

To be punished twice for the same crime makes a mockery of law.

Lock 'em up and that's that.

We don't have the death penalty, so the bullet is not an option.
McCoy 27 | 1,276
29 Oct 2008 #11
it's prevention like Bzibzioh wrote. one pedophile can destroy several people's lifes. and you can't stop pedophile from being pedophile. after being inprisoned he will walk free and do what's in his nature again and again.
Bzibzioh
29 Oct 2008 #12
So now we pre-judge people.

Rather post-judge. They already showed as what they are up to. No need to guess.
McCoy 27 | 1,276
29 Oct 2008 #13
i don't know how to quote properly

i can see that
Bzibzioh
29 Oct 2008 #14
My bad. Sorry
loco polaco 3 | 354
29 Oct 2008 #15
Let's chop the hands off burglars. Just in case !

exactly but PL is the old barbar lands so what do you expect.

Rather post-judge. They already showed as what they are up to. No need to guess.

still a double jeopardy. how freaking catholic of you all.
Bzibzioh
29 Oct 2008 #16
exactly but PL is the old barbar lands so what do you expect.

Yee, and we also eat swans, you know.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,387
29 Oct 2008 #17
and you can't stop pedophile from being pedophile.

I've already said as much.

Also, I never said that they should be released from prison.

They should be in a secure unit. For life.
Bzibzioh
29 Oct 2008 #18
That would be very good. Although to expensive for any country to incarcerate (sp?) so many.
Harry
30 Oct 2008 #19
Castration is prevention against future crimes.

No it isn't. It simply removes one possible tool used to commit crime. It does not remove the urge to commit crime and it does not remove access to other tools which can be used to commit crime.
southern 75 | 7,096
30 Oct 2008 #20
They should get arm and tongue castration as well.
Shawn_H
30 Oct 2008 #21
How about a lobotomy?
southern 75 | 7,096
30 Oct 2008 #22
Lobotomy has been abandoned in the last 40 years.
noimmigration
30 Oct 2008 #23
I bet the EU human rights regulations will have something to say about it. I personally think life time incarceration is more appropriate.

I bet you the catholic church in poland will be sweating about this.
southern 75 | 7,096
30 Oct 2008 #24
So paedophiles will be easily recognizable because they will have a high pitched voice.
Matyjasz 2 | 1,544
30 Oct 2008 #25
it's prevention like Bzibzioh wrote. one pedophile can destroy several people's lifes. and you can't stop pedophile from being pedophile. after being inprisoned he will walk free and do what's in his nature again and again.

How exactly do you know that? Most pedophiles are great examples of shyness towards the opposite sex and complexes going horribly wrong. The whole idea of chemical castration is just pure populism on Tusk's side. It's definitely not a remedy to the problems of pedophilia.
Bzibzioh
30 Oct 2008 #26
No it isn't. It simply removes one possible tool used to commit crime. It does not remove the urge to commit crime and it does not remove access to other tools which can be used to commit crime.

I agree. But could we prevent everything? That's no realistic. I'm saying if the offender who is aware of his urges asks for a chemical castration he should be allowed to do this.
McCoy 27 | 1,276
30 Oct 2008 #27
Most pedophiles are great examples of shyness towards the opposite sex and complexes going horribly wrong.

How exactly do you know that?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
30 Oct 2008 #28
What do you think about this legislation?

The whole "chemical castration" thing is a total nonsense. It doesn't work. There should be a normal castration for pervs.
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893
30 Oct 2008 #29
and white doggies :)
Bzibzioh
30 Oct 2008 #30
The whole "chemical castration" thing is a total nonsense. It doesn't work.

Is that your best guess or you have some data?


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