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Failures of Poland and Tusk`s government


Seanus 15 | 19,706
10 Jul 2011 #31
So you think bankrupting the ECB through bailing out Greece, Portugal and Ireland is trivial?? Let's see how relaxed they are when their govt doesn't even get near to repaying the loans.
OP pawian 171 | 12,080
10 Jul 2011 #32
So you think bankrupting the ECB through bailing out Greece, Portugal and Ireland is trivial??

A few posts ago we were talking about Greeks. Now, you are adding two more.

I will answer after I am sure that you have come out with everything/everybody that sores you. :):):):)
Seanus 15 | 19,706
10 Jul 2011 #33
Because Tusk alluded to Greece but I'm just saying that the problem is even wider. It doesn't sore me, really. I just feel that Tusk was wide of the mark there.
OP pawian 171 | 12,080
10 Jul 2011 #34
I just feel that Tusk was wide of the mark there.

Nope. As a Pole, Tusk knows that situation can still be much, much worse. Poland survived szlachta`s anarchy, liberum veto, partitions, wars, risings, occupations, dominations. In the light of those, do you think that Greece`s problems may worry anyone here? :):):):):)
Seanus 15 | 19,706
10 Jul 2011 #35
When you know that hawkish bankers are ready to swoop, wouldn't you feel worried? When 3 countries are going under and a second crisis is always looming, is that trivial?
OP pawian 171 | 12,080
10 Jul 2011 #36
Seanus, there is a Polish saying - in free translation: let there be war in the whole world, as long as the Polish country (wieś) stays peaceful, stays quiet.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
10 Jul 2011 #37
Nice expression but they will be vocal come election time. PiS will score well because of them.
OP pawian 171 | 12,080
8 Apr 2012 #38
If Tusk and his government don`t manage to introduce the new retirement age at 67 for all, instead of the current 65 for men and 60 for women, it will be one of their biggest failures.

economist.com/blogs/easternapproaches/2012/03/pension-reform-poland

What of the reform itself? Raising the retirement age in Poland is as necessary here as elsewhere in Europe, thanks to rising debt levels and weakening demographics. Yet the dissatisfaction of those who will lose out, and their broader animosity towards Mr Tusk, is understandable, up to a point.

Civic Platform's opponents accuse it of reneging on election pledges and of forcing its reform through without consultation. The proposal is a particular hike for women, who currently retire at 60 (men retire at 65). Germany, Europe's powerhouse and Poland's key partner, is also raising its retirement age to 67. But the average Pole lives for five years less than the average German, and works longer hours for lower wages.

Ironside 49 | 10,375
8 Apr 2012 #39
If Tusk and his government don`t manage to introduce the new retirement age at 67 for all, instead of the current 65 for men and 60 for women, it will be one of their biggest failures.

If they do it will be their frailer as well if they introduce the new retirement age and one of their smallest.
OP pawian 171 | 12,080
8 Apr 2012 #40
Iron, I appreciate your input but can you come back and contribute again when you are sober? :):):):)
Ironside 49 | 10,375
8 Apr 2012 #41
If they introduce the new retirement age it will be only another failure, one of many!
OP pawian 171 | 12,080
8 Apr 2012 #42
No, it won`t.

Before I submit expertises about it, let me go a little personal.

I want to work till I am 67. Even longer, if possible.

You are probably too young to understand it but in my opinion, when you are retired, you are half dead. You are sort of suspended between life and death.
Ironside 49 | 10,375
8 Apr 2012 #43
I want to work till I am 67. Even longer, if possible.

You can work till you die for what I care. However many people would like to it what they have been promised.
Cheating them out of it is not only ugly thing to do to but immoral.

No expressways and no motorways ready for Euro 2012.
What you say pawian - great government eh?
OP pawian 171 | 12,080
10 May 2012 #44
No expressways and no motorways ready for Euro 2012.
What you say pawian - great government eh?

Hmm, do you know anything about soccer?

Do you really believe they are going to play matches on expressways and motorways? :):):):):):)
Ironside 49 | 10,375
10 May 2012 #45
Do you really believe they are going to play matches on expressways and motorways? :):):):):):)

There goes last shred of your credibility.puff - nothing left!
OP pawian 171 | 12,080
10 May 2012 #46
:):):):):)

Ironsik, is that you?:

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TerryTerrorist - | 8
10 May 2012 #47
@pawian
dżizes kid you must be in love with Donald
OP pawian 171 | 12,080
10 May 2012 #48
dżizes kid you must be in love with Donald

Yes, I loved him as a kid. Unfortunately, communists limited access to him.
polonius 54 | 420
7 Oct 2012 #49
Merged: Tusk government the worst in 23 years - Kaczyński

Speaking on Sunday in Elbląg PiS leader Kaczyński said the Tusk government was the wost in the past 23 years. It was incompetent, ineffective and based on corrupt oldboy networks, bribery and special arranegements. As proof of the inequaltiy it represrents, the leader of the biggest opposition party could not rent a hall in Elbląg, because someone in power had passed the word: Don't rent to PiS. That is Tusk style equality and democracy, and the sooner it is swept away, the better. That is why the Gliński non-parliamentary cabinet is needed to start cleaning up the post-communist mess, Jarosław said..

No link because anybody who wanted to could watch this live on TVP Info or TVN24 and rebroadcasts of highlights on all the stations..
jon357 63 | 15,068
7 Oct 2012 #50
A bit of a dog bites man story. It would be worth commenting on only if jarek praised the guy.

the leader of the biggest opposition party could not rent a hall in Elbląg

Somebody's got taste then.

Seriously Mods, can't all this party political nonsense be swept into one thread where Polonius can dribble and quibble to his heart's content - it is after all, always on the same subject.
polonius 54 | 420
7 Oct 2012 #51
This is about the Polish body politic, what is developing on the Polish political stage which may have a bearing on the immediate and furtehr future. Tomorrow Kaczyński holds talks with Pawlak. I have it on good auhtority that the no-confidecne vote will be discussed.
OP pawian 171 | 12,080
7 Oct 2012 #52
ooops....

Hello, let me ofefr you a wram wlecome.

What isuses do you desier to discuss?
jon357 63 | 15,068
7 Oct 2012 #53
Tomorrow Kaczyński holds talks with Pawlak.

I wouldn't think a PiSuarzy/PSL coalition would have that much appeal.



delphiandomine 85 | 18,254
7 Oct 2012 #54
Tomorrow Kaczyński holds talks with Pawlak. I have it on good auhtority that the no-confidecne vote will be discussed.

But - again - Pawlak is meaningless. They need to get Ruch Palikota to support any such vote, otherwise it's doomed to failure.
jon357 63 | 15,068
7 Oct 2012 #55
And RP would never, ever, touch the PiSuarzy.
Orpheus - | 114
7 Oct 2012 #56
Jarosław said..

Friend of yours?
delphiandomine 85 | 18,254
7 Oct 2012 #57
And RP would never, ever, touch the PiSuarzy.

Exactly.

All that stuff about "showcase homosexuals" from PiS voters, after all.
jon357 63 | 15,068
7 Oct 2012 #58
That sort of fanatical rhetoric is quite common among groups who actually have nothing to real to say and nothing actually going for them.
Ironside 49 | 10,375
8 Oct 2012 #59
All that stuff about "showcase homosexuals" from PiS voters, after all.

Well, in that case it is true innit ?

That sort of fanatical rhetoric is quite common among groups who actually have nothing to real to say and nothing actually going for them.

What so fanatical about that? I agree that is not very constructive but then Mr B is not considerate or constructive himself. I could easily call his stance fanatical.
OP pawian 171 | 12,080
10 Oct 2012 #60
Polls are showing Tusk, the PO, and Komorowski popularity is dropping, and PiS and Jaroslaw Kaczynski favorability is rising. Also trust in government and politicans in dropping. Dissapproval ratings of Sejm and Senate for very high 70% for Sejm and over 50% for Senate

This post was made by Gregory in May 2011.

There were elections in October 2011, right?

PiS lost as usual, right?


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