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Facebook censors nationalists and their planned 11 Nov. march in Poland



Polonius3 999 | 12,164    
2 Nov 2016  #1

Poland's Justice Ministry is considering legal action to stop Facebook blocking nationalist organisations' and their members' pages, a senior official has said.
Deputy Justice Minister Patryk Jaki accused the social media giant of censorship, which he said was "outrageous".
Facebook's reported decision to block the pages comes ahead of Poland's Independence Day, which falls on 11 November and is typically marked by marches organised by nationalist organizations and other patriotic groups and individuals in the country's capital.

Nationalists are planning a 5 November protest outside the social media site's Warsaw offices.
Jaki criticised Facebook for allowing posts which are vulgar, offensive to the Catholic Church or favourably refer to communist ideology whilst banning "Polish patriotic slogans". One FB group calls itself "F*ck Cahtolicism", and somehow no-one has a problem with that.

"Only one side of the political dispute is being harassed ... Something is evidently not right with freedom and democracy," Jaki said.


mafketis 16 | 4,056    
2 Nov 2016  #2

is considering legal action to stop Facebook blocking nationalist organisations' and their members' pages,

Facebook is private. They can block what they want.

People who use facebook for more than 5 or so minutes a day are just making Zuckerberg richer.

Facebook is the awesome potential of the internet distilled for blithering idiots.
OP Polonius3 999 | 12,164    
2 Nov 2016  #3

making Zuckerberg richer.

Since FB claim registration is and will always be free, where is Zuckerman making all his money?
rozumiemnic 9 | 2,993    
2 Nov 2016  #4

where is Zuckerman making all his money?

From advertising obviously
smurf 39 | 2,011    
3 Nov 2016  #5

Poland's Justice Ministry is considering legal action

Hahahaha, what a bellend

He's going to sue an American company from a Polish court regarding freedom of expression. Sure.....
Nope, ain't gonna happen. Even if the case was held in Europe it would have to be in Ireland (FB's Europeans HQ) and they've gotta bigger fish to fry than the whims of a jumped-up Polish psychopath

He's not just looking for headlines for his knuckle-dragging, follically-challenged hooligan henchmen
Obviously yesterday was a slow news day in Poland
Ironside 42 | 7,816    
3 Nov 2016  #6

considering legal action

They could force them to apply to Facebook Poland, Polish law or they could ban them due to monopolist practises. By 'ban' I mean levy on them such taxes they would pack up and leave.
dolnoslask 1 | 936    
3 Nov 2016  #7

By 'ban' I mean levy on them such taxes they would pack up and leave.

I would just ban them for disallowing freedom of speech, from what I remember the owner is a libtard billionaire, this is the sort of thing that the communists did back in the dark days, lefties with money to promote their marxist agenda frightening.
Ironside 42 | 7,816    
3 Nov 2016  #8

Nope, ain't gonna happen

You due realize that your have Nazi or totalitarian mind-set, no matter what the issues is you're always side with your side because those who oppose you are evil by definition and have no rights nor right to state they point of view.

Pure totalitarian tyranny - little people love it.
JoinedToPostShi    
3 Nov 2016  #9

Since FB claim registration is and will always be free, where is Zuckerman making all his money?

You haven't kept up with the internet thing, have you?
smurf 39 | 2,011    
3 Nov 2016  #10

You due realize that your have Nazi or totalitarian mind-set, no matter what the issues is you're always side with your side because those who oppose you are evil by definition and have no rights nor right to state they point of view.

come back to me when you learn to spell ya mess

You haven't kept up with the internet thing, have you?

Hahahah :)

What all you idiots seem to leave out is that they were banned for breaking the rules as they were using their pages to collect money for their pathetic marches, that's against the rules; you break the rules you pay the price, touch sh!t
OP Polonius3 999 | 12,164    
3 Nov 2016  #11

Facebook is private.

Somehow people of your lefty-libretard orientation did not say the confectioner who refused to do a wedding cake for 2 homos was within his rights because it was a private business. They ranted, fumed, raved and foamed at the mouth!
dolnoslask 1 | 936    
3 Nov 2016  #12

who refused to do a wedding cake

A very hot topic and a interesting point, If I had a cake shop and someone wanted a hammer and sickle on top of their cake I would refuse, truth be know I would probably make it and smash it on the floor and stamp on it in front of the customer.

Everyone has he right to their own opinions and beliefs, otherwise the many minorities, gays included would have all been shot rather than understood and cared for.

We all should be free to practice our religion and beliefs, unless we are actually committing physical harm to others, If I don't wan't to make a cake for a commie I shouldn't be forced to.

When I fly my Polish flag on Nov 11 , I don't expect rent a mob to pounce on me for being patriotic and remembering the service of my father and grandfather, god bless Poland.
mafketis 16 | 4,056    
4 Nov 2016  #13

Somehow people of your lefty-libretard orientation did not say the confectioner who refused to do a wedding cake for 2 homos

I absolutely supported the bakers in that case (even if I don't think much of them as people). And the couple were not very bright either - if a food preparer was prejudiced against me why would I want to eat foot they'd had a chance to foul?

But what does it matter if facebook doesn't want to publicize Pollack independence day....
smurf 39 | 2,011    
4 Nov 2016  #14

Somehow people of your lefty-libretard orientation did not say the confectioner who refused to do a wedding cake for 2 homos was within his rights because it was a private business

They weren't within their rights, they lost the case :D :D :D

theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/oct/24/born-again-christian-ashers-bakery-lose-court-appeal-in-gay-cake-row

But what does it matter if facebook doesn't want to publicize Pollack independence day....

Yous are all still missing the point, the far-right groups weren't banned for being far-right, they were banned becasue they were raising money illegally on Facebook; that's why Facebook banned them

Just a strange coincidence that most, not all though, Polish media outlets aren't reporting that fact
Anna2016    
5 Nov 2016  #15

Sweden, Germany, France = multicultural, diverse HELL. Muslims committing on average 826.73 more crimes than white historical french germans or swedish citizens.

"Soumission" book became reality in 2016... no need to wait until 2022

islam is destroying Western Europe faster than cancer
kondzior 7 | 892    
6 Nov 2016  #16

Poor Zukenberg sued by Gaymany for not censoring nationalists too fast and then sued by Poles for censuring them in Polant; Those Goyim are Crazy!
OP Polonius3 999 | 12,164    
6 Nov 2016  #17

fly my Polish flag on Nov 11

One wonders how many Poland- and Polonia-based PF-ers will be flying Poland's colours from their home (balcony, window, detached house, etc.) on Independence Day (11th Nov.)? It's none too likely the Anglo-expats will!
dolnoslask 1 | 936    
6 Nov 2016  #18

PF-ers will be flying Poland's

I'm pretty sure the usual suspects here will be moaning about the marchers and the flags getting in the way of them getting down the pub.
Atch 8 | 1,423    
6 Nov 2016  #19

It's none too likely the Anglo-expats will!

That would be understandable though Polly as for them it's Remembrance Day, when the fallen of the two World Wars are remembered. It's quite a solemn day for most of the western world, including America, Candada, Australia and of course many European countries. Nowadays in the UK and Commonwealth nations, it's generally observed as a national day of remembrance on the Sunday nearest to the 11th of November. What about the US
OP Polonius3 999 | 12,164    
6 Nov 2016  #20

What about the US

Up until the end of WW2 it was observed as Armistice Day, because it was an armistice (not capitulation) that and ended WW1. After WW2 it got renamed Veterans' Day and so it has remained down to the present. The point is that those enjoying the hospitlaity of hte Polish nation should show respect to their hosts by observing Polish Independence Day. There'd be nothing wrong with them also dispalying their own national flag.

P.S. If Scotland ever leaves Great Britian, will St Andrew's cross get removed from the Union Jack?
Ironside 42 | 7,816    
6 Nov 2016  #21

No, Facebook in agreement with European Commission started unofficial censorship of off non PC organizations and people.
They don't care about law in Poland.
TheOther 5 | 2,929    
6 Nov 2016  #22

non PC organizations and people

Are neo-Nazi organizations and their followers also "non-PC organizations and people" that are "censored" by Facebook and the EU? Where do you draw the line, if at all? Just wondering.
Ironside 42 | 7,816    
6 Nov 2016  #23

Are neo-Nazi organizations and their followers also "non-PC

We are talking about legal organizations and monopolistic practises of Facebook in Poland that are discriminatory and ignores law in Poland. Talking, nonsense about neo-Nazis is just a garbage. Why don't you admit openly that you support censorship!
TheOther 5 | 2,929    
6 Nov 2016  #24

We are talking about legal organizations and monopolistic practises of Facebook in Poland that are discriminatory and ignores law in Poland.

Facebook is a private company with an international user base. If Polish "non-PC organizations and people" (cute description, by the way) have an issue with that, why don't they stop using Facebook then?

Why don't you admit openly that you support censorship!

Don't put words in my mouth, Iron. I was asking you a simple question: where do you want to draw the line if you want to draw one at all?
Wulkan - | 3,021    
7 Nov 2016  #25

where do you want to draw the line

KOD - an anti-Polish organisation is crossing the line IMO.
Atch 8 | 1,423    
7 Nov 2016  #26

If Scotland ever leaves Great Britian, will St Andrew's cross get removed from the Union Jack?

I should think so, of course.

There'd be nothing wrong with them also dispalying their own national flag.

A wreath of poppies would be more appropriate. It's not about national pride or the contribution one's nation made to the war, it's about honouring the individual lives sacrificed in the war.

britishlegion.org.uk/remembrance/ww1-centenary/every-man-remembered
Harry 70 | 13,020    
7 Nov 2016  #27

It's none too likely the Anglo-expats will!

You are the only Anglo-expat here; will you be flying a Polish flag outside your house on 11 November?

We are talking about legal organizations and monopolistic practises of Facebook in Poland that are discriminatory and ignores law in Poland.

Yes, it is a pity that Poland allows openly fascist organisations to march the streets of Warsaw, especially on a day when all decent Poles are thinking about men who died fighting fascists. As for monopolies, there's nothing stopping Polish Nazis from using other social media platforms. Given that they clearly admire a dictator, VKontakte would probably suit them well, although given that they claim to be Polish patriots, why were they ever using a platform other than Nasza-klasa?
Ironside 42 | 7,816    
7 Nov 2016  #28

Facebook is a private company

Don't give me that, bakery that has been fined for refusing to prepare a cake for a gay wedding is also a private company/ That fact never protected them from prosecution. What more said bakery is not a monopolistic company that is only a guest in a country.

Private doesn't equal above the law. I think that such company such be kicked out from Poland, it wouldn't be the first time for facebook.

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Don't put words in my mouth, Iron

I don't! Your stance and words have logical consequences. Fact that you are unable or unwilling to notice those consequences is entirely your problem.

It is not a rocket science - you're supporting censorship that is quite clear.
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Yes, it is a pity that Poland allows openly fascist organisations

The pity is they're not fascists organizations if they were your ass would be in serious troubles.
Harry 70 | 13,020    
7 Nov 2016  #29

bakery that has been fined for refusing to prepare a cake for a gay wedding is also a private company/ That fact never protected them from prosecution.

The difference is that it is illegal to discriminate against somebody on the grounds of their sexuality (amongst other things), but it's perfectly legal to discriminate against somebody on the grounds that they are a fascist twat.

What more said bakery is not a monopolistic company that is only a guest in a country.

Facebook is neither a monopoly nor a guest in Poland.
One wonders why patriots in Poland care whether Facebook is here or not, given that they themselves should be using Nasza-klasa. Or are they actually also patriots of the same country that Macierewicz is the greatest patriot of?

they're not fascists organizations

Perhaps you should visit Poland some time, and look up the word fascist in a dictionary (helpful hint: if they espouse fascist beliefs, display fascist symbols and give the fascist salute, they're fascists).
gumishu 10 | 4,234    
7 Nov 2016  #30

The difference is that it is illegal to discriminate against somebody on the grounds of their sexuality (amongst other things), but it's perfectly legal to discriminate against somebody on the grounds that they are a fascist twat.

in other words gay good fascist bad - simple world




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