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Poland directly threatened by ISIS. Do Islamists planning terrorist attacks in Poland?


Levi 12 | 450
1 Nov 2015 #61
Only in the paranoid hallucinations of some disturbed individuals.

So maybe the chief of Poland's Internal Security Agency, General Pawel Pruszynski, is a paranoid....
Still, i prefer to believe him than you, my Syrian friend :)

thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/190882,Polish-general-major-terrorist-attack-thwarted-in-2003

"former deputy chief of Poland's Internal Security Agency (ABW) has claimed the organisation thwarted a terrorist attack which could have killed thousands of people in 2003.

Speaking to national TV broadcaster TVP, General Pawel Pruszynski said that the coordinated attack was meant to target Christmas mass in four large cities in Poland.

Pruszynski did not specify which areas were targeted, but added that Islamist terrorists intended to bomb four cathedrals which would have been packed with devotees.

"Practically everything had been prepared," Pruszynski said.

"The attacks were to happen in major cities, I cannot say which. I can only reveal that the attacks were to be carried out in cathedrals, so we were worried that several thousand people could die."
dany_moussalli 13 | 259
1 Nov 2015 #62
Qur'an 9:29-Fight against Christians and Jews "until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low."

i mentioned this earlier : 1- you pay "al jzya" which is the special tax for christians because they don't have to fight in the muslim army and muslims are "protecting them" 2-you convert into islam 3-you should get out or you would be killed

Qur'an (2:65-66) Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.

I've read the arabic version of this, and it doesn't mention christians, and disfigure their faces is a figure of speech here , i'm not trying to protect the Quran, it's a horrible book in my opinion, but I just want to clarify for the readers that the quran doesn't explicitly depict christians as infidels or people that should be killed, christians have lived under the caliphate but with humiliation due to the fact that they needed to pay taxes and were treated as second degree citizens

anyway .. ISIS can use this verse and just simply say that the americans and russians are fighting Islam when they're fighting ISIS so ISIS should kill christians because of this verse :

al maidah 33-34
"Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,"
Pleasebecareful
1 Nov 2015 #63
possible, considering that thousands of IS soldiers come to Poland as migrants without i d s
dany_moussalli 13 | 259
1 Nov 2015 #64
nonsense, most ISIS soldiers came from the EU to Syria and Iraq not the other way around..
Crow 149 | 9,400
1 Nov 2015 #65
USA and western Europe gave many nice things to Poland. One of them is ISIS
Crow 149 | 9,400
1 Nov 2015 #67
In the sense that USA sponsor terrorists and then involving Poland in actions against terrorists. Or maybe don`t involve Poland. Why would USA ask Poland for anything? Poland even don`t know against whom needs to fight. Poland is in worse situation then Don Quixote
gregy741 4 | 1,204
1 Nov 2015 #68
nonsense, most ISIS soldiers came from the EU to Syria and Iraq not the other way around..

now look at this and see true face of muslim. blaming European people for islamist terrorism. keep em posts coming,let people see who you really are.
Dolnoslask
1 Nov 2015 #69
"crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land."

Interesting that someone mentioned this passage from the Quran. This happened to my family during the russian/ ukrain invasion of Poland in WWII

the ukrain's and russians did better than that they did all of the above and also hung children from trees using barbed wire.

Anyway I am out of exile now and happily living in my ancestral homeland of Poland.I am too old now (and have no children) so no need for me to worry too much about people repeating the mistakes of the past.

Good luck to you young ones.
johnny reb 30 | 5,181
1 Nov 2015 #70
the quran doesn't mention killing christians

Then please explain why the Christians are being beheaded my the people who worship the Koran !

Only in the paranoid hallucinations of some disturbed individuals.

More of your Islamic propaganda Polsyr.
Poland is in as much danger as the chicken sh!ts like to make headlines around the world.
I posted a list of all their attacks in different countries but it was deleted.
Remember the Munich Olympics in 1972. What threat was Germany to Islam back then ? NONE
It is all about getting attention with fear and they will do it where ever they can.
It is just a matter of time before Poland becomes a target.
My question to you Polsyr is "why is the Holy Bible not held to a book of the holiest over the Koran"?
The Koran and the prophet Mohammad came 600 years after the Bible was written.
Then ad into the Koran the Haidith which who knows what is true and who said what and what a mess aye.
dany_moussalli 13 | 259
2 Nov 2015 #71
"In the sense that USA sponsor terrorists and then involving Poland in actions against terrorists.

Well I won't disagree with you, I also blame the US for getting Poland involved in Iraq, which destibilized iraq and that led tl the creation of ISIS.

now look at this and see true face of muslim

if you're calling me a muslim, then i'm afraid that i'll have to disappoint you by saying that i'm not one.

"Between 5,000 and 6,000 Europeans have traveled to Syria to join the Islamic State, the EU Commissioner for Justice says"

some people might wonder how that big number of people managed to pass unnoticed, and some people are arguing that europeans are getting rid of their trash and they're flushing them down to syria

Then please explain why the Christians are being beheaded my the people who worship the Koran !

Because they are idiots, the quran is so vulnerable that you can use any verse to justify your killings, if you read all my previous posts, I'm not trying to defend the quran, i'm just giving the fact that it's not explicitly said that christians should be killed

Remember the Munich Olympics in 1972. What threat was Germany to Islam back then ? NONE

that was related to the israeli palestinian conflict, and not just islamists attacking THE WEST, a better example would be charlie hebdo.. now that's scary how two people managed to carry out an attack with assualt rifles in the middle of Paris
johnny reb 30 | 5,181
2 Nov 2015 #72
if you're calling me a muslim, then i'm afraid that i'll have to disappoint you by saying that i'm not one.

That makes three here now, you, Polysr and jon all born in Muslim countries yet all three of you deny being Muslim.

that was related to the israeli palestinian conflict, and not just islamists attacking THE WEST

Terrorism is terrorism. Is not Palestine a Muslim country ? Did they not kill innocent people in the name of terrorism ?
And it happened in Germany who was not the dog in the fight.
If happened in complacent Germany then why couldn't it happen in Poland now that they no doubt have sleeper cells since the invasion.
Roger5 1 | 1,457
2 Nov 2015 #73
That makes three here now, you, Polysr and jon all born in Muslim countries yet all three of you deny being Muslim.

OK, you've forced my hand. I am also a Muslim. Alahu akhbar! Anyone else?
Dolnoslask
2 Nov 2015 #74
Roger 5. Al-taqiyya (Holy deception) allows a Muslim to lie to unbelievers, therefore you are never likely to get a true answer to your question as to who is or who is not a Muslim.

The above would also have an impact on any treaty that poland or any other non-muslim country may have with Islam in the future. Under islam it allowed to make false statements or contracts with unbelievers to further the cause of Islam.
Roger5 1 | 1,457
2 Nov 2015 #75
you are never likely to get a true answer to your question

I didn't ask any such question. btw, I suggest you leave cherry-picking from scripture to fundamentalist religious nuts, of whom there are several on here.
bunensis
2 Nov 2015 #76
"Terrorism is terrorism. Is not Palestine a Muslim country ? Did they not kill innocent people in the name of terrorism ? "

Is it terrorism to want your own country back ?
Poles should know the answer to that .
Levi 12 | 450
2 Nov 2015 #77
Is it terrorism to want your own country back ?

It is terrorism to explode a supermarket full of civilians, no matter what cause you are defending.

(And it is ABSURD that you think it is ok to explode them. Just show how it is true the fact that Poland is endangered because of immigrants like you).
Dolnoslask
2 Nov 2015 #78
Roger 5, sorry I was trying to answer your question " I am also a Muslim. Alahu akhbar! Anyone else?" , muslims do not have to admit their faith to non muslims.

Unlike the Bible there is no way that you can cherry pick passages from the Quaran, it documents the life and revelations of the prophet, It states that later passages and scriptures supersede and take precedence over older ones.

There is no such thing as fundamentalism in the Quran , you either follow the teachings / laws set out or you don't,
dany_moussalli 13 | 259
2 Nov 2015 #79
all three of you deny being Muslim.

I don't think a muslim would call the quran vulnerable since it's written by "god", but you're free to believe whatever you want

Terrorism is terrorism. Is not Palestine a Muslim country ? Did they not kill innocent people in the name of terrorism ?

You might consider it a terrorist act, but it wan not in the name of islam but in the name of palestine, it was in a period when palestinians used to target israelis all over the world (like the 1976 plane hijack) , anyway , I don't think that an event from the same nature will occur any time soon, what I fear is something like charlie hebdo or the attack on the jewish museum in brussels
Ktos 16 | 440
2 Nov 2015 #80
Poland will never suffer under the Stars and Stripes of the USA.

Poland is already suffering under USA rule and it is not a relationship, it is a puppet show where USA is the director and one of the many puppets is my country Poland.
johnny reb 30 | 5,181
2 Nov 2015 #81
I don't think a muslim would call the quran vulnerable since it's written by "god", but you're free to believe whatever you want

Written by your god 632 years after Christ appeared on earth with the inspired word of the Bible by God His Father you mean.
We received the text 600 years before Mohammad arrived.
Mohammad and his companion Hadidth would take on the worldly with the Cow in the early stage before the Crusaders when Muhammad was still alive.

You might consider it a tethe Muslims goal is to convert it to Islam as the Koran teaches them to do.rrorist act, but it wan not in the name of islam but in the name of palestine

It was still a terrorist attack by Muslims though wasn't it.
Point is that Poland is a Christian country and the Muslims goal is to convert the Christians to Islam as the Koran instructs them even if it means killing them.
dany_moussalli 13 | 259
2 Nov 2015 #82
Written by your god 632 years after Christ appeared on earth with the inspired word of the Bible by God His Father you mean.

sorry to break the news for you, but there is no god, at least not like the one described in the abrahamic religions

It was still a terrorist attack by Muslims though wasn't it.

I don't think we should be arguing about facts but since you seem to be the religious type there might be some ambiguity in your judgement when it comes to facts , anyway ,even though the attackers were muslims their motives were political and not religious and they weren't trying to convert anyone or whatever..
Levi 12 | 450
2 Nov 2015 #83
You are wrong again Moussailli. If, and only IF the attack was commited by Fatah, we could consider it as a non-islamist, non-islamic motivated attack.

But it was commited by Hamas, which HAVE a Islamist agenda (Have you ever realized why West Bank, under Fatah Authority, still have christians, while all the christians needed to flee Gaza, under Hamas authority?).

By the way, guess who is the main contributor of Hamas? YES, QATAR and SAUDI ARABIA.

orry to break the news for you, but there is no god,

Yes, there is.
dany_moussalli 13 | 259
2 Nov 2015 #84
could consider it as a non-islamist, non-islamic motivated attack.

that's my point

But it was commited by Hamas, which HAVE a Islamist agenda (Have you ever realized why West Bank, under Fatah Authority, still have christians, while all the christians needed to flee Gaza, under Hamas authority?).

I know ..

By the way, guess who is the main contributor of Hamas? YES, QATAR and SAUDI ARABIA.

Syria hosted Hamas's leader for a period of time also, because Syria's foreign policy is an anti-zionist one, but when the revolution broke and it started getting more religious, Hamas's leader decided to back stab the syrian government and supported the islamist rebels (the same rebels that are being funded from Qatar and saudi arabia).. so he got kicked out of Syria..

Yes, there is.

No one can prove or disapprove this statement

Anyway we're getting off-topic , there is no real threat to Poland "yet".. and ISIS didn't attack europe directly "yet" .

No one can prove or disapprove this statement

*disprove
Levi 12 | 450
2 Nov 2015 #85
there is no real threat to Poland "yet"

Sharing it again, since apparently you didn't saw it when i shared it before:

Islamists where planning to explode 4 polish cathedrals during mass time.

thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/190882,Polish-general-major-terrorist-attack-thwarted-in-2003
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
2 Nov 2015 #86
Islamists

Sharing the item below sent to me by a friend in Michigan:
The author, Rick Mathes, is a well-known leader in prison ministry. (Look him up on Google.) The man who walks with God always gets to his destination. If you have a pulse you have a purpose.

The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capita in the United States , especially in the minority races.

Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who each explained their beliefs.

1timothy4-13.com/files/bible/allahorjesus.html
Huctors
3 Nov 2015 #87
Dany Moussaly is the ilsamic slate radical muslim propaganda on this thread...

Hundreds of thousands of radical muslim soldiers migrants are invading Europe, nobody cheks , Merkel says to welcome them in your homes,
but they rape and kill
Crow 149 | 9,400
3 Nov 2015 #88
Hundreds of thousands of radical muslim soldiers migrants are invading Europe

Ratko killed many but true, not all. Those muja maniacs who survived Ratko The Slayer, were all saved by NATO and EU and they now as veteran fighters coming to Europe. Oh, mujas were and are NATO`s and EU`s capital investments in future. That is why they hunted and organized false trial to Ratko. Ratko f***** their investment.
dany_moussalli 13 | 259
3 Nov 2015 #89
Dany Moussaly

you spelled my name wrong :/

cheks

*checks

Hundreds of thousands

millions and billions

but they rape and kill

they also cut heads , worship satan , make the sky fall on our heads, and .. eat fries without ketchup

Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance.

I remember the post was longer with the details , what happened ? Anyway I admire the way you're exposing them, Islam should progress or they will keep being criticized, the paradox is that Islam can never get rid of the barbaric passages of the quran, since that would be denying the words of "god" according to them.. so the civilized muslims simply ignore the barbaric passages and cherry pick the good passages (and radical muslims might consider cherry picking muslims as infidels...)
pinhead
3 Nov 2015 #90
This would be one occasion where Islamic State should be supported.

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