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Does democratic Poland guarantee it's LGBT citizens respect for human and civil rights?


Harry
27 Apr 2016 #1,021
You seem ready to kill the messenger rather than comment on the trans-sickies listed there. Why is that?

Probably because we're not supposed to discuss other posters, particularly ones who think they are fooling anybody by hiding in the closet.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
27 Apr 2016 #1,022
we're not supposed to discuss other poster

You certianly do enough of that on a daily basis, don't you. Got all the makings of a nosey old biddy and village gossip!
Atch 17 | 4,005
28 Apr 2016 #1,023
When I looked it u

But my point is what are you doing looking it up in the first place?? I shudder to think what your internet search history looks like....
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
28 Apr 2016 #1,024
looking it up in the first place

When I run across a term I don't know in English or other languages I try to look it up. Here out of the blue soemone is talking about some obscure cis. You mean you just stagnate at your current and never expand yoru vocabulary?
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,846
28 Apr 2016 #1,025
Topics: Transgender youth Transsexual Gender dysphoria Gender variance
Gender/sexuality questioning Cross-dressing...

Most normal people have never heard of many of these

well you said it, Pollie..:)
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
28 Apr 2016 #1,026
never heard of many of these

Maybe that's the problem. All these weirdities and abnormalilites are developing apace behind most people's back and when they realise what's happening it may be too late. That's how it was with homo marriage. That's how it is with genderless toilets. Now only at Traget, but the way things are going some dingbat law may eventually make them obligatory throughout. Vigilance is defintiely in order so as not to be faced with more faits accomplis.
jon357 70 | 19,565
28 Apr 2016 #1,027
Or perhaps, Po, the mistakes of the past are being corrected and the world is becoming a more enlightened place
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
28 Apr 2016 #1,028
a more enlightened place

You mean, of course, a "brave new world" of leftist agendas, PC dictate, run-away perversions and every manner of oddity, idiosyncracy and deviation anyone can possibly imagine. Yes, we all know you yearn for such a world, lower-case jon. But maybe you're in the wrong country. There are so many better places on God's good earth to celebrate your brand of anything-goes libertarianism and licence.
nothanks - | 640
28 Apr 2016 #1,030
Or perhaps, Po, the mistakes of the past are being corrected and the world is becoming a more enlightened place

A) the vast majority of the planet is homogenous, not feminist or accepting of homosexuals

B) you are probably mistakingly correlating our advancement in technology to the globe being better educated. On the other hand considering regional birth rates and the dumbing down of the West in the name of equality: the human race is becoming dumber

IMO, the Internet makes multiculturalism obsolete. Nations such as USA and UK destroyed themselves (to an un-reversible stage short of another Holocaust) not realizing the near future would allow people to communicate globally for free (Skype) and travel would be so cheap. I can practically talk to anyone and visit anyone in the world at a reasonable price. So why would I want exotic cultures, people, ways of life permanently outside my doorstep?

Now these nations USA/UK are forced to constantly destabilize other nations so driven cheap labor keeps streaming in. These nations stopped attempting to create the smartest homegrown products. Instead setting focus on having elite Universities and stealing other nations exchange students
johnny reb 32 | 6,830
28 Apr 2016 #1,031
you are probably mistakingly correlating our advancement in technology to the globe being better educated.

Either that OR promoting his personal desires and dilemma to convince the moral majority that they are tried and true and should be accepted for his kind's bliss.
Atch 17 | 4,005
28 Apr 2016 #1,032
When I run across a term I don't know

Yes but where do you 'run across' such a term? The reason you keep stumbling across these things is because you actively go looking for them under the guise of worrying about the state of the world, when really you simply have a morbid fascination with sexual perversions of various kinds.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
28 Apr 2016 #1,033
where do you 'run across' such a ter

On PF. That's the first time I ever saw it. I had heard of Cis-Jordanie which is French for West Bank, but the cis didn't make sense in the context of describing a person. Wouldn't you have checked it out. BTW, why do you get such pleasure from malinging me? Others are brandishing their godlessness and decadence left and right, on PF, in the media and showbiz circuit and yet one never hears a peep of protest out of you, Atch. I am only trying to live my faith. Is that a crime?
AdrianK9 6 | 368
28 Apr 2016 #1,034
Now only at Traget,

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Atch 17 | 4,005
28 Apr 2016 #1,035
Wouldn't you have checked it out.

Well to be entirely honest Polly no I wouldn't, really I wouldn't. I'm just not interested in that kind of thing.

one never hears a peep of protest out of you, Atch

What goes on on this forum is pure nonsense for the most part and as for the rest of the world I take it all with a pinch of salt.

am only trying to live my faith

And not doing a very good job. I think you're not being entirely honest there. You tell yourself and the world that that's what you're doing but it's not true and in your heart, you know it's not. Your poor old pet, what'll we do with you?
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
28 Apr 2016 #1,036
And not doing a very good job

We are told to say yes-yes and no-no. No euphemising evil but calling it what it is. No hypocritical PC, because a spade is a spade not a hoe or rake.

Maybe I take PF too seriously. Some prefer only random chat mudslinging. I prefer discussing issues. But there are some PFers, for instance the loudmouth, know-all blowhard (whose name or nick I won't mention) who are so vicious and obnoxious they would even turn St Francis into a serial killer.
Crow 153 | 10,537
28 Apr 2016 #1,037
people, i found that this thread upsets me. When i see title of the thread i think to myself- why not going out on the street naked and loudly promote wild male-female sex. When others are crazy why would i refrain myself from it. Or, why not publicly masturbate? Some tiny part of population likes it but its illegal. If few wants it, majority should tolerate it. Why is only LGBT so special? Many of us are specific
dolnoslask 6 | 3,070
28 Apr 2016 #1,038
"Why not publicly masturbate? ", they do! have you never been to a gay pride parade, plenty of simulated everything yuk.

P.S I would have a problem with a straight pride parade if they behaved this way.
Crow 153 | 10,537
28 Apr 2016 #1,039
Good. Now, others. Let us welcome anarchy. Let anarchy become our new tradition. There are people with necessity to have sex with animals, to penetrate into the dead people, sado-mazo persons, pedophiles, etc. Make it all legal and public. Total freedom for all. Open the gates of madhouse. Let majority of population join in global orgy
AdrianK9 6 | 368
28 Apr 2016 #1,040
Why is only LGBT so special? Many of us are specific

Exactly 98%-99% of the population DON'T act this way and are not LGBTQWERTY... Even the people who are fetishists like if they're into bondage or something they don't go around walking around in latex suits in public with their partners nor do they host parades. They do that stuff in the privacy of their home with their most public display being perhaps some private club or something.

The thing that upsets me the most is that these people are totally selfish. All they care about is their rights - me, me, me. They have absolutely no care or regard whether there are little children near the parade and whether their 'simulations' are appropriate. Anyone who challenges their views and beliefs and states that they don't agree is automatically labeled a bigot and homophobe - they don't even bother to have a debate about it because they are too selfish to have a shred of respect for other people's views.

I wish Poland had laws like those in Russia. At least in Russia you won't find books like 'Daddy's New Roommate' in school made for readers preschool to second grade. For Christ sakes, a child doesn't even know about hetero sex yet you're already inundating them with deviant sex. Pride parades are shut down right away and the people arrested and throw into buses. Problem solved - no pride parade. Russians even were smart enough to hire civilians as security to Olympics to make sure groups like Pussy Riot don't disrupt it - yet they did and then complained that they were arrested... If they didn't provoke the police and security forces they wouldn't of been arrested...
dolnoslask 6 | 3,070
28 Apr 2016 #1,041
"stuff in the privacy of their home with their most public display ", hit the nail on the head this is the problem, they stuff it down your throat, pardon the pun.
Crow 153 | 10,537
28 Apr 2016 #1,042
i mentioned it already. Its all part of plan to reduce population. That is why pederism was encouraged in antic Greece and Rome. Limited resources and new technologies put people and their lives on margin.
dolnoslask 6 | 3,070
28 Apr 2016 #1,043
" Its all part of plan to reduce population.", not quite true, it also plays into the hands of the Islamization of europe
Crow 153 | 10,537
28 Apr 2016 #1,044
yes, yes. Its the culture of sand people. See, that kind of mentality and culture always comes on the surface in situation when are resources limited. It can be in environment of desert, in antic city states surrounded with hostile native villages and people, in western Europe where are people hypocrites who pretend to behave nice while in reality wants to destroy Slavs and grab them their resources.

That is why are Slavs only healthy White culture and people. They don`t have that feeling of tiny world that belongs to them. They have vast world. Since time immemorial Slavs (ie Sarmats) lived and still live on intercontinental level. As a Serbian i always have feeling that Serbia represent only little part of Slavic world, no matter any politics and no matter any kind of religious antagonism. i feel that every Slavic country belongs to me, that i have right on any. Deeply in my mind and heart i don`t give a sh** for borders that separate me from other Slavs. This inevitable makes me to feel more free then for example some western European
AdrianK9 6 | 368
28 Apr 2016 #1,045
There are many conspiracy theories that can be attributed to population control - vaccines, normalization of LGBT culture, man made diseases, chem trails, wars, etc. I can kind of believe wars, man made diseases, and perhaps famines. I mean we do know that collectivization resulted in widespread famine and death in Russia and China - they certainly didn't do much to address the issue. Many people argue the Holodomor in Ukraine was purposely made by Stalin.

Quite frankly, some of the others seem rather far fetched to me. However, as I simply don't have enough evidence or sources on these topics, I can't make a decision one war or the other and there isn't much solid proof one way or the other - many of these are still in the theory phase.

I can tell you though that I wouldn't put anything past the government. After all, Henry Kissinger told congress in the 1970's that 2 billion people ought to be killed off because there's simply too many people.
TheOther 6 | 3,692
28 Apr 2016 #1,046
why not going out on the street naked and loudly promote wild male-female sex

They tried that already in 1969. Read up on the band MC5 and the founder of the radical White Panther Party, John Sinclair.
dolnoslask 6 | 3,070
28 Apr 2016 #1,047
"Read up on the band MC5 " I was around at the time they were high on drugs lsd etc, no surprise there
TheOther 6 | 3,692
28 Apr 2016 #1,048
I was around at the time

Cool. Would've loved to be in San Fran at that time.
So tell me, were you a follower when they advocated "Rock 'n' Roll, dope, sex in the streets and the abolishing of capitalism" ? ;)

Thread starting to wander, please stick to the topic and country.
Crow 153 | 10,537
28 Apr 2016 #1,049
Thread starting to wander, please stick to the topic and country.

Dobri brate pane prijatelju Admine, why you disrupting this nice conversation? Topic just developing but would be fine again. We would soon again talk about necrophilia, pedophilia, human-animal intercourse, right to abuse little children and to fu** in the head parents (no matter dead or alive) by giving their children to male couples, etc nice things of this generally beautiful but very sick world.
AdrianK9 6 | 368
28 Apr 2016 #1,050
I wonder what percent of the Polish population is actually LGBT.. I'm curious if this 'trans' nonsense has swept Poland as well. I mean we do have a trans MP but she gets no respect. I remember reading one article headlined like 'parliament opposes ruling against gays' or something to that extent. I thought it was very unusual as the parliament is typically very conservative in Poland. I then realized that by 'parliament' they meant only 2 members - one of which was of course Gorodzka.

I really wonder how many Poles are admittedly homosexual vs how many identify as trans. I know there's a bit of Polish girls that are bi and there's a few gay guys but I wonder if like a census has ever been taken of this population.

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