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Does democratic Poland guarantee it's LGBT citizens respect for human and civil rights?


johnny reb 18 | 3,781
23 Apr 2016 #901
Does democratic Poland guarantee it's LGBT citizens respect for human and civil rights?
It should read; Do LGBT guarantee respect for Christian's rights ?
jon357 63 | 14,255
23 Apr 2016 #902
Rights to do what exactly?
Crow 137 | 7,756
23 Apr 2016 #903
how much are LGBT persons patriotic?

Rights to do what exactly?

what about rights to defend and die for Poland if Anglos invade?
Atch 17 | 2,918
23 Apr 2016 #904
Ah Crow, come on now, England is not going to invade Poland!
smurf 39 | 1,981
23 Apr 2016 #905
They did before.
Britain has invaded 9 out of 10 countries.
Boooo!

.telegraph.co.uk/history/9653497/British-have-invaded-nine-out-of-ten-countries-so-look-out-Luxembourg.html
johnny reb 18 | 3,781
23 Apr 2016 #906
Rights to do what exactly?

Right to say no, we are sorry but we refuse change our culture for the 1.5%.
To tell the 1.5% to take their parades some place else so not to be "forced" to tolerate what they deem as sin.
Those rights to start with jon.
jon357 63 | 14,255
23 Apr 2016 #907
we refuse change our culture

Yet things change. Funny, that...
johnny reb 18 | 3,781
23 Apr 2016 #908
Yet things change.

Most of the time by the moral majority, for the better, to enrich the culture that it was founded upon.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
23 Apr 2016 #909
Right to say no, we are sorry but we refuse change our culture for the 1.5%.

Who is "we"? You're certainly not the majority.
johnny reb 18 | 3,781
23 Apr 2016 #910
The "we" are the Christians delph which are the moral majority as bad as the immoral minority want to change that.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
23 Apr 2016 #911
They are in the minority in many places. Deal with it.
Lenka 3 | 1,514
23 Apr 2016 #912
The problem is Jhonny not all Christian think alike. It's a group of individuals with different views and even different values.. I know quite many Christians would be repulsed by some comments on here made in the name of Christianity. I know Catholics who think there should be abortion on demand (even if they themselfs wouldn't do it), that homosexual couples should have equal right to heterosexual ones, that women should be priests e.t.c.

So even if majority of ppl in Poland is Christian it doesn't necessarily mean they support this or that.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
23 Apr 2016 #913
Not even his fellow Americans think like that. There's this mega-church in Texas called Lakewood Church, and the guy that runs the church there is quite open about the fact that he believes that everyone is going to heaven regardless of their sexual preferences.

In this case, Johnny is pretending to be religious as an excuse for being abusive towards those that he doesn't like.
jon357 63 | 14,255
23 Apr 2016 #914
Most of the time by the moral majority, for the better, to enrich the culture that it was founded upon.

I'm glad you agree that changes such as marriage rights, access to abortion, transgender rights etc are moral and for the better.
Crow 137 | 7,756
23 Apr 2016 #915
Can anybody imagine LGBT parade in some Mormon village in USA`s Utah? i mean, why not give `pride` parade to Mormons? why only to Catholics and Orthodox Christians? Let Mormons also learn what are LGBT rights

or maybe somebody have full understanding for way of life of Mormons, while Polish and generally Slavic ways of life don`t deserve peace and conditions that impose majority of population.
jon357 63 | 14,255
23 Apr 2016 #916
some Mormon village

Can you imagine much that is interesting and enjoyable in 'some Mormon village', Crowie?

Can anybody imagine LGBT parade in some Mormon village in USA`s Utah?

Have any been held there? No, there's no appetite for one, nor is there a tradition of large parades of any sort. In Warsaw however there is very much a demand as well as a tradition of outdoor parties and celebrations, hence the successful parades

And the Warsaw authorities both recognise that and support it.
pweeg3
24 Apr 2016 #917
access to abortion.....are moral and for the better.

How can abortion be moral? the least worst option, maybe. But the reality is that its destroying life.
Crow 137 | 7,756
24 Apr 2016 #918
In Warsaw however there is very much a demand as well as a tradition of outdoor parties and celebrations, hence the successful parades

yes, there are successful `pride` parades in Warsaw. But this arises question of inevitably deep corruption of Warsaw city authorities. Must be that some foreign factor have interest in some specific mind-set of Poles and then first destroying peace of Poles from within and then penetrate all kind of ideas that suits to some interests. That`s how mechanism works.

i now clearly see why Duda coming in conflict with partners from the west of Europe. Duda see that they works against Poland and Poles.

And no, i don`t deny human rights to all humans but, we here talk about abuse of those rights in order to destroy Polish culture. Not only that. Also, this kind of spin-games in Poland (anywhere) put in conflict different layers of society. In this case- LGBT population conflicting with rest of population and this increases tensions situation in entire society.

No, there's no appetite for one

but why not send them emissaries `door to door` system (considering that many of them ignore or even don`t have TV) as Protestants likes and let us convince them that they need `pride` parade in the center of their village.

nor is there a tradition of large parades of any sort.

but why not change their tradition. Why Mormons more deserve peace then Poles? Let us upset them in order to have world with equal right.
jon357 63 | 14,255
24 Apr 2016 #919
yes, there are successful `pride` parades in Warsaw.

Very successful, plus a thriving commercial scene.

Must be that some foreign facto

Don't be daft.

but why not send them emissaries `door to door` system

Why?

but why not change their tradition. Why Mormons more deserve peace then Poles?

What tradition? It wasn't invented yesterday, you know...
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
24 Apr 2016 #920
It wasn't invented yesterda

In overal terms, the balloon, feather and makeup brigade and their pervert pride parades are fairly recent developments. Before that, homos kept to themselves, and that is as it should be. Let them do their dirty deeds in private. Public space should not be polluted by muscle thugs in wigs, makeup and combat boots lewdly gyrating on mobile platforms in simualted rectal intercourse to the horror of people with small children.
jon357 63 | 14,255
24 Apr 2016 #921
pervert

homo

rectal intercourse

That post is the sign of a vivid and unhealthy imagination.
Ironside 48 | 9,902
24 Apr 2016 #922
I think that he wants to say that parades dedicated to a single sexual aspect of a person don't make much sense and can turn into graphically distasteful events that public needs to be protected against.
jon357 63 | 14,255
24 Apr 2016 #923
that public needs to be protected against.

Really? So people wearing bright clothes and doing the sort of dancing you see on MTV is something bad?
Ironside 48 | 9,902
24 Apr 2016 #924
on MTV

Why cannot there be parades on TV? That would be the right place for this sort of things. Who would want to watch it would and who doesn't want to see it, needn't bro.
jon357 63 | 14,255
24 Apr 2016 #925
Who would want to watch it would and who doesn't want to see it, needn't bro.

The same as real life ones - in any case, there's nothing about the Warsaw parade that could possibly offend. Except the tiny handful of far-right protestors.
Ironside 48 | 9,902
24 Apr 2016 #926
The same as real life ones

No, it is not, please do not pretend that there is no difference.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
24 Apr 2016 #927
That post is the sign

No, it is a sign of the disgusting displays by a bands of perverts polluting public space with their degeneration!

MTV

MTV are known for their tasteless and tacky displays of lascivious erotic dancing. Good for strip clubs but not family television. Luckily, MTV are on the way out; the younger sent have turned their backs on them. That's not saying that something even worse may crop up. Some say one should never criticise any commerpop fad, craze, subculture or fashion becuase the next ones down the road may well be even more outrageous, stupid and disgusting. But all have one thing in common: to drain the pockets of adolescents and young people of as many $$$, zł zł zł, €€€ as possible!
jon357 63 | 14,255
24 Apr 2016 #928
You don't much like modern life, do you Po?
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
24 Apr 2016 #929
You don't much like

Do you go in for tackiness, tastelessness and smut? Those things exist but they have always existed. The brothels of yesteryear were very gaudy and tasteless, and that gaud actually became their trademark. Jugglers, fire-swallowers, acrobats and assorted itinerant entertainers with travelling troupes were once not buried in consecrated ground for a reason. Their morality was much like that of today's celebrities. That has nothing to do with modernity. There has always been been a démimonde fringe and probably always will be.
jon357 63 | 14,255
24 Apr 2016 #930
démimonde

And may that long thrive.

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