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How will BREXIT affect the immigrants in UK and Poland.


Polonius3 1,007 | 12,507    
27 Jun 2016  #181
questioning the current EU structure

Some people list Schengen and free flow of capital as EU boons, but countries are free to approve visaless travel, capital free flow and free-trade ageeements without the existence of any cumbersome structure like the EU. The Junckers, Schultzes and similar have been made obsolete by events. Poland is also mulling a proposal to replace the EC with the European Council. Something to think about.
nothanks - | 667    
27 Jun 2016  #182
> Under the radical proposals EU countries will lose the right to have their own army, criminal law, taxation system or central bank, with all those powers being transferred to Brussels.

Hahah BYE eu
dolnoslask 5 | 1,918    
27 Jun 2016  #183
Junckers, = P$s head,

"EU countries will lose the right to have their own army, criminal law, taxation system or central bank," If true Poland will be out.
Polonius3 1,007 | 12,507    
27 Jun 2016  #184
ose the right to have their own army, criminal law, taxation system or central bank

If they try to shove that down Europe's throat by hook, crook or blackmail, there will be a lot more exists like Frexit, Spanexist, Italexist and maybe even Polexit.
jon357 65 | 13,407    
27 Jun 2016  #185
EU countries will lose the right to have their own army, criminal law, taxation system or central bank

They'll all have that right, our own as one Union.
iwonadem - | 14    
27 Jun 2016  #186
If they try to shove that down Europe's throat by hook, crook or blackmail, there will be a lot more exists like Frexit, Spanexist, Italexist and maybe even Polexit.

Or EU will have to change dramatically.
Dougpol1 24 | 1,897    
28 Jun 2016  #187
Polexit.

That's OK Pol - but you would have to pay back a percentage of the billions in subsidies first:)))
iwonadem - | 14    
28 Jun 2016  #188
HI,Hi We have this polish saying ' Kto daje i odbiera ten sie w piekle poniewiera' :-)
Dougpol1 24 | 1,897    
28 Jun 2016  #189
Merkel was speaking in the German parliament today, and she stated the obvious - that the UK cannot have access to the single market but restrict free movement, ( as that goes against the four tenents of freedoms of people, goods, services and capital). Quite clearly Boris is living in cloud cuckoo land if he thinks he can deny Poles entry to the UK.

So, the Conservatives will get Theresa May in and strike a deal with the EU. If that happens, and it surely will, then it's panic over, but the two fingers to Farage and the rest of the racists:)

As you were.
Tictactoe    
28 Jun 2016  #190
Well that's ok Doug, all those people ( rasicts ) to the left, who used their vote in a democracy to vote an end to federalism will just vote UKIP in the next GE, it's that simple.

So don't worry living over there in Catholic homogeneous white Poland xenophobe, scared you might see a black face is that why you are there !!.

Actions speak louder than words.
jon357 65 | 13,407    
28 Jun 2016  #191
So, the Conservatives will get Theresa May in and strike a deal with the EU

Quote. And any deal will involve the unrestricted movement of people, as of course it should.
Atch 15 | 2,440    
28 Jun 2016  #192
Ireland may be a help to Britain in that respect as Ireland is definitely going to insist on the continued freedom of movement between our two countries (the Common Travel Area as it's known) and no re-instating of the border with Northern Ireland. So that will set a precedent. Incidentally the London School of Economics published a report stating that Ireland will "suffer the largest proportional losses" of any country other than the UK if a Brexit takes place."
Dougpol1 24 | 1,897    
28 Jun 2016  #193
Live European plenary session here. A standing ovation for the UK EU Commissioner.

europarl.europa.eu/ep-live/en/plenary/video?date=28-06-2016
Polonius3 1,007 | 12,507    
28 Jun 2016  #194
Catholic homogeneous white Poland

A most refreshing change from mish-mashed mutli-cultiland! Birds of a feather, you know.....
Mary19283    
28 Jun 2016  #195
Isn't it so very super-funny that European Union big monster

has 3 presidents,

NONE OF WHICH HAVE BEEN EVER ELECTED DEMOCRATICALLY BY THE PEOPLE
(CITIZENS)

Donald Tusk
Jean-Claude Juncker
Martin Schulz

They were all simply named by the powers to be
jon357 65 | 13,407    
28 Jun 2016  #196
Incidentally the London School of Economics published a report stating that Ireland will "suffer the largest proportional losses" of any country other than the UK if a Brexit takes place

Quite. If it happens, obviously the very people who voted for it would be hit, and sadly others too.
Dougpol1 24 | 1,897    
28 Jun 2016  #197
Donald Tusk
Jean-Claude Juncker
Martin Schulz

All of them public servants - and doing an excellent job. Did you watch Junckers' speech today? Clear, concise, calming, honest. Do I need to go on?

Some of our elected leaders could learn something from diplomats such as him.
mafketis 16 | 5,899    
28 Jun 2016  #198
Did you watch Junckers' speech today? Clear, concise, calming, honest.

How can you write that and not get struck by lightning?
Dougpol1 24 | 1,897    
28 Jun 2016  #199
How can you write that

Did you listen to his speech Mafketis?

Ireland

Who was the awful Irish woman speaking in the European Parliament today on behalf of Brexit Atch?
Wulkan - | 3,280    
28 Jun 2016  #200
Did you watch Junckers' speech today? Clear, concise, calming, honest.

A civilized speech is an achievement when it's done by the libtard with a drinking problem, I know.
Dougpol1 24 | 1,897    
28 Jun 2016  #201
A standard ovation for Alan Monroe, and for Scotland. As to Northern Ireland - the Irish lady was ranting:).

I believe that the European Union may will back Scotland.
Atch 15 | 2,440    
28 Jun 2016  #202
on behalf of Brexit Atch?

Sorry Doug I don't know who that might be........Irish lady? Do you mean Martina Anderson from Northern Ireland. As far as I know she's in the Remain camp.
Dougpol1 24 | 1,897    
28 Jun 2016  #203
Martina Anderson from Northern Ireland. As far as I know she's in the Remain camp.

No - this woman was crowing, in a very cheap way, like Farage. Never heard of her before.
Atch 15 | 2,440    
28 Jun 2016  #204
Right Doug, I did a bit of searching. That would be Diane Dodds of the DUP. Sure the woman is a Unionist/Loyalist, what would you expect? Hysteria is their usual style.
Dougpol1 24 | 1,897    
28 Jun 2016  #205
Diane Dodds of the DUP

Thanks for that! Interesting.
dolnoslask 5 | 1,918    
28 Jun 2016  #206
Nicola Sturgeon was expecting to get an invite to tomorrows EU meetings, she was politely told by Donald tusk not now.

Question is does the EU want another poor non strategic nation like Scotland in The Union, do you think that Scotland would pass any of the entrance tests.

Does anyone feel that Scotland would be a worthwhile member of the EU, putting emotion to one side
Polonius3 1,007 | 12,507    
28 Jun 2016  #207
They'll all have that right

Only the right to serve as compliant and docile yesmen for the Franco-Germano-Beneluxian rulers of the super-state. A rerun of the Holy Roman Empire -- the emperor and the numerous duchies and fiefdoms under his sway.
mafketis 16 | 5,899    
28 Jun 2016  #208
Question is does the EU want another poor non strategic nation like Scotland in The Union

Some of the current problems of the EU are precisely the "accept anyone!" policy.

do you think that Scotland would pass any of the entrance tests.

Would an independent Scotland want to use the Euro (fatal pseudo-currency union)?

Does anyone feel that Scotland would be a worthwhile member of the EU

Not especially. And if an independent Scotland joined Schengen then it would have to be a 100% controlled land border (a first for Britain since....?)
People don't especially want to move to Scotland but there are tens of millions in Africa and the middle east and the Indian sub-continent who would like to live in England.... England is already the most crowded country in Europe. Does anybody seriously want to see the population of England creep over 100 million? 200 million?

Would Scotland agree to British style border controls? Would Scots travelling south want to exchange their euros for sterling?
Dougpol1 24 | 1,897    
28 Jun 2016  #209
Would Scotland

You really don't get it, do you? 60 percent of the Scots, according to a poll this morning, are hopping mad, and threatening to impose a whisky and haggis export ban.

But seriously, this is a great threat to Union, and a poorer UK means a much poorer Poland, as you will know when you compare the relatively large amounts of income sent back to Poland with what Poles can earn at home for driving the number 601 bus.
mafketis 16 | 5,899    
28 Jun 2016  #210
threatening to impose a whisky and haggis export ban.

I thought they were threatening to _lift_ the existing haggis export ban and were going to start sending tons of it to England....




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