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An article: NATO is the American occupation of Poland and Europe, by Mateusz Piskorski


SigSauer 4 | 413
10 Apr 2018 #121
@delphiandomine

Yea, 34 weeks, or 30 weeks longer than it took you to get your certification to "teach."
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
10 Apr 2018 #122
In other words, American soldiers are less qualified than hamburger joint managers. Embarrassing, and we're supposed to rely on that?
johnny reb 18 | 3,756
10 Apr 2018 #123
WE ? Are you pretending to be Polish again ?

I hardly call basic military boot camp to be an "achievement".

You wouldn't because you couldn't begin to do it.

those little kids "have it tough".

Any one of those little kids are capable of sitting you down on your keister.

perhaps from local thugs in the discoteka after harassing locals.

So you admit you need the local thugs to protect you from the little kids.
Take your TROLLING insults elsewhere.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
10 Apr 2018 #124
I apologise, I forgot these "young kids" need 34 weeks just to learn how to drive a car without crashing, and even then, they still needed extra lessons!

Frankly, Poland doesn't need unqualified and inexperienced buffoons "protecting" us, especially if they're such snowflakes that they "have it tough" when living a comfortable existence in the Polish countryside.
johnny reb 18 | 3,756
10 Apr 2018 #125
Why does BAITING, TROLLING & ABUSE come to my mind here.
I wish my "Report this post" X was activated.
Can you turn it back on please so I can report all three of the above post.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
10 Apr 2018 #126
Does anyone here actually believe that the Americans will lift a finger to help Poland in time of need?

The more likely scenario is that Poland will ask for assistance, and the Americans will contrive some excuse to keep NATO out of the conflict.
TheOther 5 | 3,870
10 Apr 2018 #127
moving thousands of US troops close to the border of Belarus would be provocative

I believe that ground forces are of no real value in Europe. At the height of the Cold War they always said that the troops in western Europe have about 2 minutes before they get vaporized by a nuke. So why waste money?
Velund 1 | 425
10 Apr 2018 #128
And how you can claim that you control the territory, if you do not have at least some troops, stationed on it?

The same way, Putin can claim they control any town in Texas, as they can nuke it at any time.

PS, Oops, let's change Texas to Florida, someone will like it much more. ;)
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
10 Apr 2018 #129
LOL. Just as we're discussing the inept, unqualified and inexperienced nature of the American military, this beautiful story came up.

nowosci.com.pl/112/wypadki/g/awaria-wojskowego-sprzetu-w-toruniu-na-szosie-lubickiej-ogromne-korki-i-utrudnienia-w-ruchu-zdjecia-nowe-informacje-szczegoly,13082074,28321144

The breakdown of military equipment belonging to the US army blocked the traffic on Szosia Lubicka in ToruĊ„.

Absolutely embarrassing. How are these clowns supposed to protect us if they can't even stop their equipment from blocking half of the city?
SigSauer 4 | 413
10 Apr 2018 #130
The article said one vehicle had a problem, happens sometimes when you're towing heavy artillery. I was going to ask if you ever had problems with your car before, like a broken axle, but then I remembered you can't afford a car.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
10 Apr 2018 #131
The article said one vehicle had a problem, happens sometimes when you're towing heavy artillery.

Excuses. Badly maintained or old equipment breaks down, so it shows the kind of junk they're using here.

Still, it's a massive LOL and shows that the "flagship American presence" amounts to absolutely nothing.
SigSauer 4 | 413
10 Apr 2018 #132
amounts to absolutely nothing.

Similar to your knowledge of military strategy and international affairs. As well as teaching credential, and bank account.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
10 Apr 2018 #133
If by "military strategy", you mean "poorly trained and equipped American soliders blocking traffic in Polish cities for hours", then...yes, you're right, I'm completely unfamiliar with such embarrassments.

Another example of how the great American occupation of Poland is turning out:

rt.com/news/412533-us-army-poland-road-accident

With such unprofessionalism, we would be far better off inviting British or German forces to station themselves in Poland instead.
SigSauer 4 | 413
10 Apr 2018 #134
Germany, you mean the country with 95 operational main battle tanks? Or the United Kingdom, that has 56 operational main battle tanks?

It's also hilarious that now you like RT, lol.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
10 Apr 2018 #135
Who needs tanks, exactly? It's not as if the Americans will actually be able to deploy any given their inability to transport themselves from A to B without incident.
johnny reb 18 | 3,756
10 Apr 2018 #136
we would be far better off

You keep speaking of "we" as if you are pretending to be a Polish citizen and not a Scottish guest in Poland which you are.

Correct me Sig but I thought I read that Russia has seven time the amount of tanks available as NATO has in the EU.
A ground war would last no longer then a week if Russia decided to keep it a ground war.
And why are we talking war in the first place ?
America's occupation in the EU has been out dated for decades.
WE are only there to boosts the EU economy as I see it.
SigSauer 4 | 413
10 Apr 2018 #137
Russia has more tanks in the Donbas region of Ukraine, than in the entirety of all European armies combined. But don't ask me, ask the military expert after he's done stapling his coloring books for tomorrows lesson.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
10 Apr 2018 #138
Russia has more tanks in the Donbas region of Ukraine, than in the entirety of all European armies combined.

And we're supposed to believe that a token American presence is for anything other than a form of modern colonialism?
Velund 1 | 425
10 Apr 2018 #139
Russia has more tanks in the Donbas region of Ukraine, than in the entirety of all European armies combined.

DNR and LNR is not yet Russia. So, you try to tell that "mine workers militia" from Donetsk is armed somewhat better than Bundeswehr? ;)
SigSauer 4 | 413
10 Apr 2018 #140
Yea, they went and bought T-90s which were never exported down at the local dealership near the naberzhna....idiot
Velund 1 | 425
10 Apr 2018 #141
And then what India, Algeria, Azerbaijan and few another countries bought? And what India manufacture since 2004 under russian license?
SigSauer 4 | 413
10 Apr 2018 #142
So India donated them to miners in Donetsk? How did they get them there, sent them by ship and unloaded in Mariupol?
johnny reb 18 | 3,756
28 May 2018 #143
Poland seeks permanent US troop presence to deter Russia.
The Onet.pl news portal reported that Poland is seeking the permanent deployment of a U.S. armored division and is offering up to $2 billion to help build the infrastructure.

Help build ? Who's tax money pays to build the rest of it ?
It says the defense ministry has written to U.S. politicians and the U.S. Congress with details of the proposal.
That ought to make the Polish girls happy.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,473
28 May 2018 #144
It's basically the same as hiring a security guard to protect your house... only in this case its poland hiring the u.s. and basically bribing them to maintain a permanent presence instead of rotating around.

Waste of poles money imo.. we already exceed the 2% gdp requirement which very few nato partners do.

Wed be better off starting a secret nuke program and neither confirming nor denying we have one. Or we could just outsource the whole thing. Im sure Pakistan could spare 5 to 10 nukes for 2 billion
cms neuf - | 1,018
28 May 2018 #145
No - a peaceful Europe is in the interests of the US. Basically doubles the size of the market for US companies, in the 50s this might of been Coca-Cola or General Motors, these days it is Amazon, Google and Apple. What is more ending the global ambitions of the UK. Germany and France also is better for US security.

If the voters of the US wished to then of course they can withdraw from protecting Europe - but that will probably lead to a nuclear armed Germany. Is there anyone would like that?
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,719
28 May 2018 #146
Waste of poles money imo.. we already exceed the 2% gdp requirement which very few nato partners do

NATO partners? Give the US more such "partners" and US will go bankrupt a lot sooner. Just look at that joke, Germany, and their 1.2% contribution vs the US 3.5%.

My question is: why is US paying anything? All of those weasels in Europe are just theatrical props with all the heavy hitting left for us. The US should be PAID to protect their Euro butts.

Man, do I love being an ugly American.
TheOther 5 | 3,870
28 May 2018 #147
Just look at that joke, Germany, and their 1.2% contribution vs the US 3.5%.

I guess you don't understand why the Germans are holding back on that one. Given their GDP, 2% spending on the military would automatically turn the Germans into the largest military force on the continent. Nobody in Europe wants that, and Germany acts accordingly and responsibly.

but that will probably lead to a nuclear armed Germany.

They had the chance in the 1950s already, but declined if I recall correctly. Maybe this time they'll team up with the French and develop their own nuclear deterrent. Would take them a year or so, I guess. Again: nobody in Europe wants that, but if the US continue on their current path other EU nations might join the French and Germans. Then NATO is really dead, and with it the political influence of America in Europe. From there to ditching the dollar as the global reserve currency is only a small step.

Man, do I love being an ugly American.

Yup, and that sh*it attitude will bite you in the ass one day.
TheWizard - | 238
28 May 2018 #148
The USA has pretty much lost against China in the south china sea, they sail a couple of feeble ships past now reduced to being useless spectators. North and south Korea will make their own deal in the end, nothing to do with usa, China will be the major power there. Middle east has many players now including Russia and no one is listening to Washingtons Iran sanctions, even India rejected them yesterday and said they only abide by un sanctions not anything else. Germany should get nukes as should Poland no need for usa to be involved.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,719
28 May 2018 #149
A ground war would last no longer then a week if Russia decided to keep it a ground war.

I wrote Sunday.

A US-Russia ground war on Russia's door step. Sure.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,719
28 May 2018 #150
2% spending would turn the Germans into the largest military force on the continent. Nobody in Europe wants that...

There is a US Treasury office (we call it IRS) near me where I just delivered a check for 40 billion bucks. They took it gladly and even said thank you. Germany can do the same. Would you like the address?

I have to admit that you were funny: Germany acting responsibly by being a cheap weasel, happily riding my back.

Is flooding Europe with Muslims nobody wants also acting responsibly?

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