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The "Arbeit Macht Frei" sign theft from Oswiecim, Poland


PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
18 Dec 2009 #31
It's really weird someone would steal that particular sign. Why would they? It's just an odd thing for someone to take. Is the sign involved in a controversy in Poland?
OP jonni 16 | 2,485
18 Dec 2009 #32
PlasticPole

It's known all over the world. In a hundred films. Amazing they didn't have a security camera. After all, it's the entrance to the camp.
1jola 14 | 1,879
18 Dec 2009 #33
PlasticPole

No controversy.

It is possible that it was a contract theft. For whom?

If anything it is the Poles who should be livid as mainly Poles were at Auschwitz I, where this gate is. Auschwitz II, one mile away, and where mainly Jews were sent looks like this:

Transports went through this gate and then prisoners were seperated for work or death.

Amazing they didn't have a security camera.

Amazing in your mind. They have plenty of security cameras.
polishcanuck 7 | 462
18 Dec 2009 #34
Try reading a bit more and step into the real world son,

You are telling me I need to read? bahaha you are such a hypocrite. You don't have the slighest clue as to what harry (or anyone for that matter) talks about in polish historical/political threads.
Wroclaw Boy
18 Dec 2009 #35
It's really weird someone would steal that particular sign. Why would they? It's just an odd thing for someone to take. Is the sign involved in a controversy in Poland?

OK lets put in plain obvious text. Do you think Hitlers personal cutlery would be worth anything? Perhaps his very own personal dinner plate?

What could we compare the entrance gate sign of Auschwitz with? Maybe the statue of liberty, both stood for different reasons, give me a symbol of evil which personifies the Nazis more than that of the entrance statement of there number one death camp. Fcuk can you not see it? its right fcuking there plain as day. OK i got one the entrance to Guantanamo Bay, but thats just interogation, did millions die there? do you think that sign may be worth something in the future? of course it would. But a thousand times less, millions even. Plastic i respect your posts but you really need to step into the real world love.

Can you and obviously only a few others really not see the symbolic and actual value of this sign? You must be dumn as they come.

When i see statements like that i really wonder about the future of the human race.
OP jonni 16 | 2,485
18 Dec 2009 #36
OK i got one the entrance to Guantanamo Bay

And how many people know what that looks like? As you say, it's symbolic. I'd go further and say it's iconic as a symbol of evil.

When i see statements like that i really wonder about the future of the human race.

The human race will do OK. Some of the posts above are just weirdos who should find a more worthwhile hobby than race-hate.
k98_man
18 Dec 2009 #37
You must be dumn as they come.

Ironic...yes, I know...but still funny. ;)
Wroclaw Boy
18 Dec 2009 #38
And how many people know what that looks like?

Enough to say why would they steel it. Its fcuking obvbious.
OP jonni 16 | 2,485
18 Dec 2009 #39
Steal the gate from Guantanamo? It probably looks, well, just like a gate. The Oswiecim one is unique.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
18 Dec 2009 #40
What would someone do with it and why would they want it?

Sell for big cash...

From Haaretz:

Information and Diaspora Minister Yuli Edelstein (Likud) said in response that "this is one the Polish police's biggest failures," adding that" anti-Semitic events in the world are multiplying, and there is a valid fear for the safety of the Jews in the Diaspora."

Well... one could wonder If that wasn't a provocation to fuel up "antisemitism is on the rise" stuff...
1jola 14 | 1,879
18 Dec 2009 #41
Well... one could wonder If that wasn't a provocation to fuel up "antisemitism is on the rise" stuff...

It is even anti-Semitic to suggest that it isn't anti-Semitic. Properly termed, it is new anti-Semitism. Foxman is drafting new legislation as we speak.

Knesset Speaker Reuven Rivlin said that "this is another one of the new forms of anti-Semitism in Europe, which is attempting to cause us to forget the historic memory of the Holocaust by sabotaging every symbol related to it."

Those clever Poles had a copy though.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
18 Dec 2009 #42
It is even anti-Semitic to suggest that it isn't anti-Semitic.

Very true...
time means 5 | 1,310
18 Dec 2009 #43
Probably some Gypos nicked it to weigh in.
1jola 14 | 1,879
18 Dec 2009 #44
time means

They surprisingly are not very vocal about their tragedy.
Wroclaw Boy
18 Dec 2009 #45
You are telling me I need to read? bahaha you are such a hypocrite.

OK PolishCock lets say i adhere to what youve been telling me for months about needing to read more. Please list the articles, books, tabloids what ever master pieces you consider to be worth reading in order for me to maximise my understanding of what ever you think i need to research.

I eagerly await your recommendations.

Im not going to give up on this, youve dug the hole lets see if you can fill it. I want books and such nigga!!
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
18 Dec 2009 #46
Can you and obviously only a few others really not see the symbolic and actual value of this sign? You must be dumn as they come.

They can sell it but it might be difficult to sell it without getting caught. You can't exactly auction it off after stealing it...not publically, anyway. It would be like someone taking the Statue of Liberty and auctioning it off.

It sounds like an inside job.
It just seems like a strange thing to have happen because of it's size and the way it's attached to the fence.
Wroclaw Boy
18 Dec 2009 #47
They can sell it but it might be difficult to sell it without getting caught.

Thats basically what i said in one of the ealier posts although i linked it with the Mona Lisa as apposed to the Statue of Liberty. Thats like trying to sell the Titanic, i mean come on plastic.
time means 5 | 1,310
18 Dec 2009 #48
might be difficult to sell it without getting caught

So i should not put it on e-bay yet then?
convex 20 | 3,978
18 Dec 2009 #49
What would it be worth then??

probably not much. In 300 years, WW2 will be a footnote
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
18 Dec 2009 #50
Thats basically what i said in one of the ealier posts although i linked it with the Mona Lisa as apposed to the Statue of Liberty. Thats like trying to sell the Titanic, i mean come on plastic.

I wonder if it's already in someone's basement? If it is, good luck finding it.

So i should not put it on e-bay yet then?

Try Amazon :)
scrappleton - | 830
18 Dec 2009 #51
that Gitler chose the wrong tagets.

Never fear, the US is ass broke bankrupt and most now leave Europe for good. 10 years perhaps? Maybe new Gitler's are coming to finish the job. Maybe not.
Wroclaw Boy
18 Dec 2009 #52
Wroclaw Boy:
What would it be worth then??
probably not much. In 300 years, WW2 will be a footnote

Shut up, it will be worth 100 times more then than today, you Poles really dont have a clue do you? WWII a footnote? jeez, it will be one of the defining periods of all human history, much more so than any war previous or after unless we have WWIII of course, how the hell did you figure that out??

Are you saying that pre 20'th century wars are what a FOOTNOTE? Thats one of the silliest things ever written on here.
OP jonni 16 | 2,485
18 Dec 2009 #53
Just an idea. Maybe it's not been stolen.

Maybe it's been kidnapped.

The loss is highly embarrassing to the Polish government. It's a big enough issue for the Israeli premier to respond immediately.

How much would they pay to get it back?
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
18 Dec 2009 #54
It's not good. What will they do if they can't find it? Everybody expects to see the "Arbeit Macht Frei" gate, it is a symbol.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
18 Dec 2009 #55
It is one of the biggest lies ever spun, put into context here. Nice theft, it deserved to be removed.
BrutalButcher - | 391
18 Dec 2009 #56
So many anti-semitic idiots over here. Useless humanoids.
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
18 Dec 2009 #57
Nice theft, it deserved to be removed.

Why would it deserve to be removed? Seanus, I can't believe you would support such a defacement of history. It's kind of like when they gauged the eyes out of ancient statues.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
18 Dec 2009 #58
The Holocaust was a defacement or do you deny it happened? Arbeit Macht Frei is one of the biggest insults to the Jewish nation. They weren't there for freedom at all. Work didn't make them free, it merely prolonged the inevitable.

Stop being anti-Semitic, PP.
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
18 Dec 2009 #59
Seanus, the sign was a cruel irony. Wasn't in it in the Polish part of the large labor camp? The train was in the other part?

It's not about semeticism.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
18 Dec 2009 #60
I've been there, PP, and it's the main entrance to the camp. Polish part? The train was closer to Birkenau, the line is not evident near Auschwitz.


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