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Anger after Poland left out of EU ambassador team


OP David_18 68 | 982
24 Aug 2010 #31
Okay then, since Germany has by far the biggest population in the EU...

Indeed!!! The Germs are being discriminated and should revolt against the evul powers that surrounds them!!!
MareGaea 29 | 2,752
24 Aug 2010 #32
The Germs are being discriminated

If it's anybody who are discriminated within the EU it's the citizens of the BeNeLux. Paying the most, yet receiving hardly anything in return and being blocked out by the big countries when it comes to making decisions. Nobody else is being discriminated more in the EU than them.

>^..^<

M-G (no wonder the EU isn't that popular anymore in BeNeLux - off to bed now)
ender 5 | 398
24 Aug 2010 #33
And here is

Net by population

If each country's net contribution is divided by its population you get a figure for how much that country contributes or receives per citizen.

net by population

and average Belg is 5th in ranking who pays MORE
and average Pole is 8th in ranking who takes MORE
OP David_18 68 | 982
24 Aug 2010 #34
So per capita the Benelux is the greatest contributor, per country DE, UK and NL are the biggest contributors while HL, PL and ES are the biggest receivers.

Why do you still talk about capita? haven't i teached you anything this night?

And why do you show me a chart that is only showing the budget for may 2010?

Here is an article that maybe will make you understand it all a litte bit better !!!

Making sense of the 2010 EU budget
For 2010, Germany is expected to contribute most to the financing of the EU general budget with approximately 19.6%, followed by France (18%), Italy (13.9%), the UK (10.4%) and Spain (9.6%)

Budget debates often focus on how much countries give and how much they get back from the EU (their "net contributions"). Inevitably, "discussions" arise where different countries feel they are either paying too much or not receiving as much as they should. The latter can be a particularly vexed point as some EU policies like agriculture and regional policy benefit some countries more than others.

However, contrasting "contributions" with money a country gets back and then presenting a "net balance" is a difficult and controversial exercise. Here's why:

europarl.europa.eu/news/public/focus_page/034-31028-161-06-24-905-20080605FCS31027-09-06-2008-2008/default_p001c005_en.htm
plk123 8 | 4,150
24 Aug 2010 #35
Power game? These countries simply pay the most (well at least BE, NL, DE and SW do), so they have the most rights to be there when the goodies are being given away.

isn't the union equal?

We will never know the complete truth untill it's revealed.

thus a moot point at this time

MareGaea:
Power game? These countries simply pay the most (well at least BE, NL, DE and SW do), so they have the most rights to be there when the goodies are being given away.

Common... How does that sound?

i agree, that's messed up way of thinking

Poles are one of the most educated people in Europe if not the world. I know plenty of poles incl members of my own family that speaks all those languages.

Nope i don't buy that sorry!!!

so do i but maybe there aren't any diplomats that do speak those.. but, since when did anyone have to speak another language to be a good diplomat? what, there are no translators anymore?

frankly speaking, she isn't ready yet to start influencing the EU. In time, yes - but right now?

so why let PL into EU, if poland "isn't ready".. wtf kind of logic is that?
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,377
24 Aug 2010 #36
Well together with Sweden they have initiated the Eastern Partnership, which is arguably faring better than the Mediterranean Union initiated by France.
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They are contributing to EU security by pressuring the US to build a missile defence shield which will contribute to EU security.
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They did play a role in helping to bring about the Orange Revolution in the Ukraine, through Kwasniewski's mediation.

So i would say that they are punching above their weight, but understandably as a net recipient of EU funds, doors will simply not open up for Poles, no matter how talented. It will take a bit of time, about 10 years.

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The EU president, Buzek, is a Pole so they have some positions.
Ironside 49 | 10,372
24 Aug 2010 #37
so why let PL into EU, if poland "isn't ready".. wtf kind of logic is that?

its ********* that what it is !

However Poland's position and so called advantages being member of EU are highly illusionary!

I-S (M-G seems of late to be very prone to talk bull)
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
25 Aug 2010 #38
I love the British humour this is what William Dartmouth said to Obama “I’m the man to call when you want to call Europe"

However Poland's position and so called advantages being member of EU are highly illusionary!

Oh, you're gonna get it for that comment :D

isn't the union equal?

Hell no, whatever gave you that idea?


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