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Why is Amazon not present in Poland?


Aneta123456 1 | 1
10 Apr 2013 #1
Why Amazon is not coming to Poland?
Maybe any articles or links to web sites? I've read in news that it would both bring jobs and Poles would have another option (besides Allegro or other big stores popular in EU).
jon357 63 | 14,127
10 Apr 2013 #2
You can use Amazon in Poland.

Worth remembering that Argos isn't here either. It isn't a trusting society and there is scepticism about buying things you can't see, feel or ask the shop assistant ten minutes of pointless questions about.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
10 Apr 2013 #3
They generally do not expand that much amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0&docId= 487250

There's been some rumors since a few years that they are going to open a Polish branch but only rumors...

It isn't a trusting society and there is scepticism about buying things you can't see, feel or ask the shop assistant ten minutes of pointless questions about.

Do you realize e-commerce has been growing rapidly here ? It's just the strategy of Amazon seems to be to concentrate on the largest markets.
OP Aneta123456 1 | 1
10 Apr 2013 #4
Strange...and the centers like Castorama, OBI, IKEA - what they're waiting for with e-shops? Good practice - Praktiker and Leroy Merlin. TESCO also.

I don't think it's because of the problem of trusting society and scepticism.
Maybe here is some problems with area, courier companies or payment methods...
jon357 63 | 14,127
10 Apr 2013 #5
We have courier companies and payment methods here ( though online payments still lag behind the west a bit due to the banking culture).

It will take a few years before online shopping truly takes off. I do think the mistrust in commercial life that was engendered during the 80s and 90s as well as the rather strange law that means retailers aren't held responsible for the quality of what they sell act against the growth of online sales.
Harry
10 Apr 2013 #6
the rather strange law that means retailers aren't held responsible for the quality of what they sell

Which makes distance shopping the sensible choice (given that one can return things that one does not like).
jon357 63 | 14,127
10 Apr 2013 #7
It will take quite some time before people start to trust that business model here. Allegro had done a lot of good, but people still prefer to see what they're buying and ask a thousand questions.
Monitor 14 | 1,821
10 Apr 2013 #8
Internet shopping in europe

johnmercerlondon.wordpress.com/2011/09/

Everybody younger than 40 with internet is buying here online. There were gossips that our postal service is not acceptable for Amazon. But I find it funny. If it's too slow for them here then could simply inform that shipping in Poland takes 1 day more than elsewhere.

It will take a few years before online shopping truly takes off.

Apparently you have not idea about earnings of companies like Allegro. Difference to top countries can be explained by lower percentage of internet users here.
Rysavy 10 | 308
10 Apr 2013 #9
I would venture a guess that it is more about RELIABLE available delivery- and cost (nearest distribution center)

Is there an Amazon UK?

I couldn't have a gift delivered thru Amazon US without extraordinary rate. No guarantees either.
The same gift (a box with new PC game) would have been 150 bucks ..to Poland even by good ol USPS which is normally t he most reasonalble for int'l rates

The birthday surprise (a choco telegram) I ordered early thru local company still arrived days late once passed into the hands of courier service.
Had it been a company that makes guarantees they would have been hosed.

From now on I am going to do it all on large zip drives, send it to my Army bud to send for me from Germany. Not like I send anything big anyway.

:(

Trusting is not just a Polish thinb I'm sure. For me Amazon is more about trusting the product brands they offer. And I am familiar enough with Ikea to happily order anything they carry online.

I had one expensive dud so far ordering a click clak futon from Walmart(tore on 2 seamsi n 24 hours-had to drill a pilot and then found why the work crew didn't-the brace hiden by teh bottom cover was not right. I t cracked at the hole asn voila- brick for leg. It was garbage even a goodwill wouldn't take in less than 2 weeks. for 200 bucks : (

Difference to top countries can be explained by lower percentage of internet users here.

That coul dbe erason it isnt cost effective to have alocal distribution or deal with the courier services avaialble >edit<
Harry
10 Apr 2013 #10
Is there an Amazon UK?

Yes. And it offers free delivery to Poland for orders more than £25 (about 125zl).
Rysavy 10 | 308
10 Apr 2013 #11
THANKS!

I think that may be my method for next try then.. ^_^ I never really sent things so far off since becoming a civilian. I was accustomed to very easy posting of things as a soldier. Man, once I started using the web for shopping I have become spoiled to it.

I'm still pickier about fabric goods..to see the color and texture up close. And sizing unless a brand I know well.

I hate driving..(except to IKEA if I live within 60 miles of one- I make it a bizarre little holiday. Hmmmm and all the smoked fish..and the meatballs..YUM) And more than an hour in Walmart I have a pounding headache, panic and overwhelming need to escape.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,718
10 Apr 2013 #12
I think that may be my method for next try then.

What's strange is that Amazon UK delivers to Poland, but Amazon DE doesn't...
Harry
10 Apr 2013 #13
I think that may be my method for next try then.

If you want things sent from the USA to Poland, I can very highly recommend Polonez parcel services
polonezparcelservice.com
johnb121 4 | 184
10 Apr 2013 #14
May not have this 100%, but when we moved from London to Poland I left my old home address as my "main" one on Amazon.co.uk and added our Polish address as a secondary one, selected for all deliveries. A little later I'd updated all our bank and credit card companies on our Polish address and in some cases a UK contact address (relatives). I changed our main address to Poland on A.co.uk and it promptly refused to sell/send me anything. I changed our main address to the contact addy with the relatives in the UK and it's been plain sailing ever since ... so, as a matter of course, you may need to have an address in the country before they will process orders, even if you ALWAYS opt to have goods shipped to Poland. Two other points: free delivery applies only for items sold by Amazon, not third party sellers and even if you are willing to pay postage I've found 3rd party seller goods "cannot be sent to (my) country" . Deliveries are by Deutsche Poste, incidentally, to Malapolskie.
newpip - | 140
10 Apr 2013 #15
I buy from amazon probably weekly.

Poles are notorious for buying online. In fact they prefer it. Business owners don't want to carry the stock because they don't want the initial payment if they are not sure it will sell.

Just in my world which is design- nobody has any stock. It is silly and clients are happy to wait four weeks till it comes from another country.
jwojcie 2 | 763
15 Apr 2013 #16
It isn't a trusting society and there is scepticism about buying things you can't see, feel or ask the shop assistant ten minutes of pointless questions about.

Nah... simply before any of the wester bullies put a foot on Polish market Allegro, Merlin and the likes have taken it... Maybe story of a complete failure of e-bay in Poland, which still, cann't really compete with Allegro has more to do with Amazon bussiness decisions than some sociologic blabling ;)... I guess contrary to portals like Facebook or Google, where there is no tangible bussiness behind it - no real goods to move around, it is much harder and costly to enter new market - which is not so green as some would like to believe. Besides, banking infrastructure: simple thing, how can I pay using mTransfer on Amazon? Answer I can't... just an example of regional differences, that they would have to overcome by sign some agreements and develop some new functionality which is currently standard in Poland... last but not least, Polish language localisation of their site... To sum this up quite a lot work to do for them without guarantee of success what e-bay venture showed.
Secretsanta
17 Dec 2013 #17
Hi I am Secret Santa,

We just started our company in Poland and tried to sell on Allegro.pl the Ebay of Poland. But we had no luck! So, we are going to start selling on amazon in Polish. We offer Tablet PCs. We ship free to anywhere in Poland because we are located in Lodz Poland. Check us out secretsanta.com.pl we are working on a English, Spanish and French website versions. For now we are only in Polish. Hope this is useful for anyone looking to send a gift during the holidays to Poland.

Happy Holidays,
Secret Santa
Harry
17 Dec 2013 #18
We ship free to anywhere in Poland because we are located in Lodz Poland.

So do Amazon.co.uk
Monitor 14 | 1,821
17 Dec 2013 #19
No, only Chinese ship for free, other people include shipping cost in price.
Schmiznurf 9 | 31
17 Dec 2013 #20
The UK Amazon will ship things to Poland for free with a minimum spend, but there are also restrictions on what they will send.
snaps 4 | 27
18 Dec 2013 #21
Also amazon don't accept a lot of payment cards from polish banks as they don't use the CCC number on the back of the card. My pko visa cannot be used. Its a real pain.
sobieski 107 | 2,128
18 Dec 2013 #22
There is a difference between DD and CC cards. Direct Debit cards do not have a CCV number. You need a credit card for that one. I am using my Polish CC without problems. I cannot complain about Amazon.co.uk.

(Though their employees might think differently)
InWroclaw 89 | 1,915
16 Jan 2014 #23
Aneta, they heard you and are opening 3 centres in Poland including near Wrocław.

bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-07/amazon-to-create-6-000-jobs-in-poland-in-three-logistics-centers.html

I hope you'll say thanks by ordering at least one 8zł paperback once they open.
Tamarisk
16 Jan 2014 #24
@InWroclaw

Unfortunately this article says nothing about Amazon opening an official amazon.pl site. It could be just warehouses to facilitate the distribution of goods from already existing online stores. Not bad either though. If you could order from amazon.co.uk and have it delivered next day instead of waiting 4-5 days if you get the free shipping.

The one thing that does worry me though is I hope the free shipping to Poland from amazon.co.uk is not discontinued.
InWroclaw 89 | 1,915
16 Jan 2014 #25
Unfortunately this article says nothing about Amazon opening an official amazon.pl site

It's a warehouse but apparently they will hire IT people too if they haven't already, or so the word on the street says.

I'd be very surprised if they don't open a PL www too.
Nathans
25 Sep 2014 #26
Amazon is in Poland now:

The coming opening of three Amazon distribution centers in Poland may be the single largest recruitment effort in Polish history with its 12,000 jobs. Amazon is offering PLN 13 per hour, well below the EUR 10 per hour earned at Amazon in Germany.

Source: Gazeta Wyborcza

Allegro and other companies aren't too happy..
Dougpol1 31 | 3,124
25 Sep 2014 #27
Amazon is in Poland now:

No Nathan - you are simply re-directed to Amazon.com. Have you read the article? The distribution centres are here - but the goods are for export. Theoretically they are then imported again. You pay the shipping charges.

Poland will have no free shipping, which negates the point of using Amazon at all. I will not be doing so.
jon357 63 | 14,127
25 Sep 2014 #28
You pay the shipping charges.

This is true. It's actually the Amazon EU gateway they direct you to (at least they did a second ago when I typed in amazon.pl. I'd like to see an Amazon.pl, not least because Allegro etc are a nuisance, however as far as I know there are no plans for this.

Poland will have no free shipping, which negates the point of using Amazon at all. I will not be doing so.

I do use them for certain things, however it's a pain in the arse to pay for shipping from the UK when it's just mailed from down the road...
Dougpol1 31 | 3,124
25 Sep 2014 #29
it's a pain in the arse to pay for shipping from the UK when it's just mailed from down the road

I would of thought if they offer that to ze Germans and not the Poles - then there is a case to be taken against them?

How does Poland gain by this? The consumer doesn't. And neither do the 13 zl an hour workers. Jesus H.Christ. 13 zl? Does anyone on PF work for such money?

All that the scum are doing is polluting the countryside with their distribution centres - which people have to spend a fortune in petrol getting to , to work for 13 zl an hour.

You couldn't make it up. I would ban the bastards.

Answers on a postcard to Dougpol Mansions please. Rant over
TheOther 5 | 3,831
25 Sep 2014 #30
I thought Amazon is in Poland because the German employees went on strike several times demanding higher pay?


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