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Pokłosie - should the film have received funding from Polish state coffers?


Harry
22 Nov 2012 #31
You are besserwisser

Tut tut tut, using German words now, you must be forgetting yourself.

And I don't like commies at all...

Good for you. I must admit that I'm not fan of them either. However, it's probably better to look forwards having learned from the mistakes of the past rather than simply seeking vengeance for misdeeds in the past, wouldn't you agree? But of course in order to do that, one needs to be honest about the past: it is not possible to learn from past mistakes if one denies that those mistakes were made or otherwise lies about those mistakes. If it were to become an accepted truth that Jedwabne was not a massacre committed by Poles, it would most certainly only be a matter of time until the 'next Jedwabne'.
Ironside 51 | 11,510
22 Nov 2012 #32
I know more than enough about Polish history to spot your lies and to point them out to everybody. The problem you have is that while the lies of your ilk have been accepted for decades, now the truth finally has its boots on and is giving the tired lies of the Nazis and the Commies you love so much a damned good kicking. Keep on telling those lies, you only make yourself look more and more stupid.

Your every post shows clearly that you know as much as your preconceptions. You are waste of time - you know it all! The fact that you are know nothing except for your prejudices.

Me too:D

You are sly but it is old news. Ukrainian trait I would say.

The simple fact is that Poles carried out the Jedwabne massacre

nonsense!
sofijufka 2 | 191
22 Nov 2012 #33
Tut tut tut, using German words now, you must be forgetting yourself.

my great uncle was Bawarian, he was a prisoner of Dachau, his older son - a polish scout - was shot by German [not NAZIS}. his younger - was kidnapped by Germans as an Arian specimen [Janissary]...
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,441
23 Nov 2012 #34
You are sly but it is old news. Ukrainian trait I would say.

there is nothing sly about paying taxes in Poland Irons. Look the meaning of the word up again and it may pointing to you;).

Back on topic: it seems to be money well spent, since the movie has restarted a discussion about how some Poles have a problem with remembering the darker parts of themselves.
Harry
23 Nov 2012 #35
Your every post shows clearly that you know as much as your preconceptions. You are waste of time - you know it all! The fact that you are know nothing except for your prejudices.

I see that you make no attempt at all to address the topic and instead focus your comment solely on me. That is, of course, because you know that you cannot argue with the very simple facts about Jedwabne: the people who committed the massacre were Poles. Even the Polish government agrees with that.

it seems to be money well spent, since the movie has restarted a discussion about how some Poles have a problem with remembering the darker parts of themselves.

Isn't it strange that the Poles who have abandoned Poland are the ones most likely to lie about the actions of Poles at Jedwabne?
Ironside 51 | 11,510
23 Nov 2012 #36
there is nothing sly about paying taxes in Poland Irons.

But it is sly to give you money gladly to see lies and propaganda blackening Poles when one is Ukrainian! I would think that you should come clean first in regard to Wolyn massacre perpetuated by your compatriots possibly kin. Remind me your standing while debating Wołyn massacre on PF? Didn't you sided with Nathan in denial?

how some Poles have a problem with remembering the darker parts of themselves.

What darker parts? Are you talking Star Wars here?Or you are being vulgar?

I see that you make no attempt at all to address the topic and instead focus your comment solely on me

Well Harry I have no choice but to focus on you because your preconceptions do not let get facts in the way. You are not responding to arguments and facts.

The fact is that blaming Jedwabne on Poles a political decision made for conception that Poles took part in Holocaust on the German side. From that wrong or malicious preconception spring all others.

OK! You want to debate facts lest go:
Tell-me how many victims were there in the Jedwabne case and manner of their death?

Even the Polish government agrees with that.

Oh dear? Did yo ask them? If their are guilty I would see them happy to go to jail where they belong.

Isn't it strange that the Poles who have abandoned Poland are the ones most likely to lie about the actions of Poles at Jedwabne?

Isn't that strange that some people without national attachment (or pretending to have none)cannot understand that attachment at all? Well - NO? Would that make them freaks?

On the other hand it maybe the case of pretending not to understand it, just to have yet another opportunity to focus on their opponent not the issue debated.
xzqbq7 2 | 104
24 Nov 2012 #37
polish scout - was shot by German [not NAZIS}

Sofi, no need to add nazis anymore, we use the correct term German, and that's it.
btw, nobody was fighting nazis during WWII, there were no nazi war crimes, this term was invented long after the war, I suspect due to some dirty deal.


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