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Official language of EU (is not Polish)


Torq
5 Apr 2010 #91
What the hell is wrong with:

Donaudampfschiffahrtskapitänsmütze!

Everything I can possibly think of is wrong with that word, BB.
Actually - it should be listed in a dictionary as a synonyme of "wrong" ;)
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,823
5 Apr 2010 #92
Buuut....at least we have the famous Mark Twain making fun of our language...what have you got??? Ha!

crossmyt.com/hc/linghebr/awfgrmlg.html
Seanus 15 | 19,674
5 Apr 2010 #93
Good pint, Dariusz? I wish I could have one :)

English is the preferred language as it is the most widely taught.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,823
5 Apr 2010 #94
Do you speak scots/gaelic Seanie?

What do you think about having to use english instead to your own, native language?
Torq
5 Apr 2010 #95
at least we have the famous Mark Twain making fun of our language

Hey - we don't need Mark Twain to have fun! All we need is to watch a Polish NT
game or highlights on an English language channel and listen to the commentary.

I will never forget the game Poland-England in 1991 in the Euro '92 qualifiers.
We took the lead after a goal by Roman Szewczyk in the first half of the game
(I found a video with Polish commentary only)...

...

...after the game I watched highlights on Eurosport: English commentator trying to pronounce
"Szewczyk" - absolutely PRICELESS.

Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,823
5 Apr 2010 #96
Now I'm warming to the idea to make polish the lingua franca of Europe...that would show them!
Wroclaw Boy
5 Apr 2010 #97
convex

Hey SS aka Amaythist alson known as Miss F,

are you just going to say your piece and do a runner when faced with a decent argumnet as usual. Convex has raised some decent points and i for one want an answer out of you, atleast on some of the issues. Or have you realised as usual that youve got it all wrong. WTF
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,879
5 Apr 2010 #98
Torq wrote:

Let's face it,
język polski is way too difficult to make it an official language of any international
organisation and expect people to learn it.

it's comments like this that allow me to sleep at night not feeling like i have a learning disability :)......(although there a select few out there that won't agree with your comment, Torq)

Wroclawboy wrote:

are you just going to say your piece and do a runner when faced with a decent argumnet as usual. Convex has raised some decent points and i for one want an answer out of you, atleast on some of the issues. Or have you realised as usual that youve got it all wrong. WTF

i could use a representative like this.
Brian Barker
6 Apr 2010 #99
Obviously Esperanto is the long-term solution. The World indeed does need a common auxiliary language.
Torq
6 Apr 2010 #100
Obviously Esperanto is the long-term solution.

Why use an artificial language instead of a real one? English is widespread and quite
easy to learn on a communicative level - it's a logical choice.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,823
6 Apr 2010 #101
German is much easier...I learned it as a baby already! pffffft
Torq
6 Apr 2010 #102
German is much easier...

I don't know about that, but even if it is then it's not as widespread as English.

I learned it as a baby already! pffffft

Oh, yeah? Say "der Oberammergauklostersgebaudepassionsspieldelikatesfruhstuckskase"
10 times quickly! (sorry for not using German diacritic signs - couldn't be arsed switching
my keyboard).
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,823
6 Apr 2010 #103
I don't know about that, but even if it is then it's not as widespread as English.

Of course it is, more people are native german speakers than english speakers in Europe.
English became the language of the day because of the aftermath of WWII, the ascendence of the US to the sole super power and the cold war...but things are changing, the US is changing and Europe is changing!

Oberammergauklostersgebaudepassionsspieldelikatesfruhstuckskase

At least we have the vowels for that monster! ;)
Torq
6 Apr 2010 #104
Of course it is, more people are native german speakers than english speakers in Europe.

Yes, but way more people have at least basic command of the English language
than German. Anyway - it's free competition with languages. Nobody is forcing
people in Europe to learn English instead of German, they choose themselves.

If one day people decide that it's more beneficial for them to learn German than
English then they surely will learn it. Some sort of a government program like
"Pass the Zertifikat Deutsch test - get your brand new Mercedes C-klasse" might
help the cause of spreading German in Europe ;)
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,823
6 Apr 2010 #105
Well, lot's of USians start learning spanish already...but I agree a lingua franca comes more naturally and shouldn't/can't be forced. So all this talk about it is dumb....I for sure can't see a scenario where a language only spoken in the EU by GB and Ireland is forced upon millions of native german speakers, sorry.

A reason to leave the EU!
Lyzko
13 May 2011 #106
Former Chancellor Kohl wanted to make German the EU's official language, but it lost.
There are legitimate arguments for or against, I suppose. English won by default, of course. After all, it IS the international language of (mis-)communication, if not exactly, mutual understanding!!!! LOL
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,823
13 May 2011 #108
Former Chancellor Kohl wanted to make German the EU's official language, but it lost.
There are legitimate arguments for or against, I suppose. English won by default, of course. After all, it IS the international language of (mis-)communication, if not exactly, mutual understanding!!!! LOL

Ummm...these are the official languages of the EU:

Bulgarian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Estonian, Finnish, French,German, Greek, Hungarian, Irish, Italian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Maltese, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Slovak, Slovene, Spanish and Swedish

And these are the working languages of the EU:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the_European_Union

While documents for and communication with citizens are in every official EU language as a right, day-to-day work in the European Commission is based around its three working languages: English, French, andGerman.

German is both...(we pay the whole bruhaha so it's only logical).
PlasticPole 7 | 2,648
13 May 2011 #109
Looks like the working language is mostly English. English is everywhere.
Koala 1 | 332
13 May 2011 #111
And these are the working languages of the EU

This map still has DDR as a separate country LOL (even if you could make a case it's logical to put it that way)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Deutsch-Fran%C3%A7ais.png
PlasticPole 7 | 2,648
13 May 2011 #112
That will change soon...*sinister laugh*

It will be Spanish, eventually, just like everywhere else ;)
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,823
13 May 2011 #113
This map still has DDR as a separate country LOL

Nope...

Red: Countries where German is more known than French. Blue: Countries where French is more known than German. Darker colours: Native countries. Figure: year of accession.

There is a big fat "90" in the old borders....re-unification and accession overlapped abit.

languages
Piast Poland 3 | 165
13 May 2011 #114
aren't all official languages of EU member states also official of EU?
Koala 1 | 332
13 May 2011 #115
There is a big fat "90" in the old borders....re-unification and accession overlapped abit.

Yes, but it's a new territory of BRD, not a new member country.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,823
13 May 2011 #116
aren't all official languages of EU member states also official of EU?

...well...that too...

Yes, but it's a new territory of BRD, not a new member country.

But it was a non-member still the night before...and then it made "puff" and was gone! :)

It will be Spanish, eventually, just like everywhere else ;)

Not in Europe! ;)
Koala 1 | 332
13 May 2011 #117
BTW I wonder why Sardinia is black on that map :)
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,823
13 May 2011 #118
*squints at map*

Isn't it rather a dark blue? Meaning they are perfect in french? Hmmm....who would have thought it....no, wait...that is some french island!
Koala 1 | 332
13 May 2011 #119
I meant Corsica LOL. It's been ages since my last geography class.


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