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Negative Polish stereotypes in US 'changing for the better'


Harry
11 May 2013 #1
A bit of good news for Poland, it seems that American views of Poles are starting to be more accurate (and therefore better):

"The image of Poland and Polish people in the United States is changing for the better," says Professor John Micgiel, a political scientist and historian at Columbia University in New York.

"Negative stereotypes are slowly disappearing. Simply tune in to radio stations in New York and hear more and more Americans, for example, able to pronounce the name of Tadeusz Kosciuszko," Prof. Micgiel, who is also director of the East Central Europe Centre told the PAP news agency, referring to the Polish, and American, hero who fought in the American Revolution against the British.

One negative stereotype, that of Poland as a land of anti-Semites, is changing too, he says.
"Poles are no longer seen as anti-Semites, due to a number of factors, such as the reaction in Poland to revelations about the [WW II-era] Jedwabne Pogrom and the construction of the Museum of the History of Polish Jews in Warsaw," the professor said.

thenews/1/10/Artykul/135249,Negative-Polish-stereotypes-in-US-changing-for-the-better -Full article

Hopefully the posts made here by certain persons who claim to be Polish/Polonia and to speak for Poland/Polonia will not do too much damage to the improving reputation of Poles.
smurf 39 | 1,981
11 May 2013 #2
Simply tune in to radio stations in New York and hear more and more Americans, for example, able to pronounce the name of Tadeusz Kosciuszko

This 'professor' sounds a bit crazy, does he expected people to believe that Americans call New York radio stations to talk about a Lithuanian man who enjoyed fighting so much he became a mercenary in the American War of Independence?

The vast majority of NY radio stations play music, they do not talk about such trivial things as Pan Kosciuszko.

But, if the headline is true, that of course is a good thing.
call1n 2 | 143
11 May 2013 #3
Hopefully the posts made here by certain persons who claim to be Polish/Polonia and to speak for Poland/Polonia will not do too much damage to the improving reputation of Poles.

Too bad America still has the same immigration policy it has had toward Poland since 1929. That is the number of immigrants entering Poland each year since the restriction which was based on race, has never been lifted.

Hispanics flood into America by the millions, and in 1929 and during the anti-immigration acts of the 20's and 30's people from Eastern and Southern Europe only occupied 15 percent of the population. That 15 percent was very threatening to Anglo-America.... And it was expected to the newly arivals that they were to assimilate and not speak their native Lagrange in school and business etc....

Just go to Miami or Los Angeles... it is completely hispanic, and they do not assimilate, and do speak any language besides Spanish...

So based on 15 percent of the population not being able to assimilate very well into America and being labeled as inferior for the standardization of not being able to do so... America changed its mind and let immigrants not from Poland, not from Eastern Europe flood in by the millions, say they do not have to assimilate, but it is impossible to the day for a Polak to get a visa to go to America, that has not changed since 1929....

So America has a changed view.... kiss my ass!
Maybe America has become an hispanic country now, and the 2 to 3 Polaks coming here each year will assimilate into Latin Culture...
peterweg 37 | 2,321
11 May 2013 #4
Very few Poles want to goto America, so its irrelevant now.
delphiandomine 85 | 18,254
11 May 2013 #5
That is the number of immigrants entering Poland each year since the restriction which was based on race, has never been lifted.

Are you still trying to present that same old lie?

but it is impossible to the day for a Polak to get a visa to go to America, that has not changed since 1929....

I assure you that several of my friends have 10 year multiple entry visas without any problem, all of them under 30.
call1n 2 | 143
15 May 2013 #6
Very few Poles want to goto America, so its irrelevant now.

Why is that? Extreme prejudice?
pierogi2000 4 | 229
15 May 2013 #7
Because unless you are wealthy, you have a higher quality of life in Europe. My sister left the USA a few years ago, I plan on doing the same after my studies are finished. My parents are immigrating back to Europe after retirement in a few years.

USA will be a brown country in 15 years. If you are white: Canada, Australia and within Europe is a lot better place to move. My parents greatly regret immigrating to the USA with us.
call1n 2 | 143
18 May 2013 #8
Because unless you are wealthy, you have a higher quality of life in Europe.

Spanish will be the official language of USA and Arabic the official language of Europe.
Zibi - | 336
18 May 2013 #9
Dream on......
Des Essientes 7 | 1,291
18 May 2013 #10
Hopefully the posts made here by certain persons who claim to be Polish/Polonia and to speak for Poland/Polonia will not do too much damage to the improving reputation of Poles.

If the threadstarter honestly believe that comments on this forum have any appreciable affect on the perception of Poles in the USA then he is mistaken. This is an internet discussion forum that 99.9999% of Americans will never see.

If the threadstarter is just pretending to believe that comments on this forum may actually have an appreciable effect on the perception of Poles in the USA, so that he may continue his campaign against certain Polonians on this forum that he has taken a dislike to, then the threadstarter is being insincere.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,386
18 May 2013 #11
This is an internet discussion forum

true.

when you feel the need to post on the topic rather than the person who originated it i shall alert the media. the whole of Poland awaits a reply with something relevant to the actual topic.
ob1 1 | 30
18 May 2013 #12
I wouldn't be concerned about the perception of Poles in the US. There is a big world out there, like 5 billion. Those foreigners think for themselves and know bigotry when they see it. It's the ignorant/gullible who don't. The ignorant/gullible aren't leaders of the rest of the world.
call1n 2 | 143
19 May 2013 #13
It is good to see that you realize the United State is still bigoted towards Poland...Why?
Because it would be impossible for the minorities living in America to adapt "white" culture, for there to be a white people there with their own culture that does not adapt Anglo-Saxon Protestant values...

It would set a bad example for the social norms for everyone else to follow to a white person that is not socially adaptable to the "American" anglocanized view of white society.
Des Essientes 7 | 1,291
19 May 2013 #14
when you feel the need to post on the topic rather than the person who originated it i shall alert the media. the whole of Poland awaits a reply with something relevant to the actual topic.

Wroclaw, the two conditional statements that I made in my post are absolutely on topic. Your claim otherwise is very disconcerting. How can you be a proper moderator here if you cannot understand that logical analysis of a thread's OP is what a discussion forum is all about? The idea put forth in the OP, that Polonians on this forum may be hurting Poland's image in the USA, is absurd and stupid. My post rightfully points this out. I think that you may actually understand this because my post hasn't been binned.

Wroclaw, the reader is left to wonder why you wrote what you did above. I think that it may have something to to with a feeling of solidarity you have with the threadstarter, because he is an expatriate like yourself, and so you are upset that my post exposed the stupidity contained in his OP.

Wroclaw, I am a Polonian. I feel a sense of solidarity with my fellow Polonians on this forum, and now most especially since we are being singled out as being bad for Poland's image. I will not stand idly by and allow such balderdash to be spread upon this forum unchallenged.

Wroclaw, if you want to make stupid sarcastic posts that asininely claim on-topic statements are off-topic then you may do so, but, in my opinion such posting makes you look like an idiot.
Bieganski 17 | 901
19 May 2013 #16
The idea put forth in the OP, that Polonians on this forum may be hurting Poland's image in the USA, is absurd and stupid.

You are absolutely correct. This thread appears to be nothing more than yet another anti-Polonia piñata strung up by the OP so he and his fellow attention-starved malcontents can bash and prance around it.

The OP needs to post defendable examples how he personally gives Poland and PF a good reputation on the internet because it certainly isn't apparent.
delphiandomine 85 | 18,254
19 May 2013 #17
Hopefully the posts made here by certain persons who claim to be Polish/Polonia and to speak for Poland/Polonia will not do too much damage to the improving reputation of Poles.

Fortunately, I think there's enough people here (who actually live in Poland) that can defend Poland's good name against such people.

It is certainly telling that the majority of negative people on this forum don't live in Poland.
call1n 2 | 143
19 May 2013 #18
It is certainly telling that the majority of negative people on this forum don't live in Poland.

It is also good to know, that intelligent people will not just follow what is reputable, fashonable and sociable... that smart people follow the facts.

And the fact simply is, that America pretends to be a multi-cultural "free" society open to people of many religeons, kind, creed and color, but in reality it fights an imperialist war, with a pan-Germanic culture that is espesially sympathic to zionism and Jewish interest, that it is expected for all those in this country to adapt this arrogant culture...

For example, in public school in America it is expected to look at the teacher directly in the eye, something most cultures would find offensive... and it is expected to ask people "how are you" even if you do not care about them....

And this culture is very sympathetic to Jews who "suffered" in the holocaust. But in reality, this is nothing but shovanism and to top it off... America still has the same immigration policy towards Eastern European non-Jews that it had since 1920!

Prove that wrong!
It isn't multicultural, America is a Pan-Germanic Anglo-Protestant JEW!
And the Catholics that come here, can be "like the Irish" who Anglocanized their Catholicism!
delphiandomine 85 | 18,254
19 May 2013 #19
America still has the same immigration policy towards Eastern European non-Jews that it had since 1920!

Could you perhaps show us in law where these policies are outlined?
call1n 2 | 143
20 May 2013 #20
They let carribeaners and Latininos come in 1965, as special interest groups, they let Jews come in as minority groups suffering oppresion in Eastern Europe, but at the time, any ethnic non Jewish person from eastern Europe would be viewed as a communist threat (and not given a visa).

Here is the Link to the LAw:

library.uwb.edu/guides/usimmigration/79%20stat%20911.pdf

Ethnic Eastern Europeans are not catagorized as a "special interest group" and the apeal does not undo the racist eugenically oriented National Origins Act of the 1920's and 1930's.

pity that all the early communist that were funded by wall street (in America and Londen) were Jews!

For all you folks that are not aware, here is the immigration change from a racist America...
After 1940 you can guess that virtual no people came here who were not Jewish!

The 1965 act, gives the ability for people to bring their family over to America.
Another thing that happened: The Jews did not assimilate completely and brought their families over. Since the Jews are special interest oppressed people, they can bring people over from Eastern Europe and still have attachment to their home culture... so then they can bring their family over through Israel!

Ethnic Eastern Europeans cannot do this...

when the wall came down in 1990, Eastern Europeans did not see people fresh from their homeland for 50 years! (most intermarried, and lost contact with their homeland) Unlike the Jewish neighborhoods who were full of fresh immigrants, constantly bringing family from Israel. So this is a completely bigoted biased racist tendency! Zionist immigration supremacy!

I do not need to show any statistics, it is pretty much established fact!





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