Lech Walesa vs Immigration: Brits humiliated him at London Heathrow Airport

Could be, but I suspect he wouldn't make such a fuss about it if he was simply informed beforehand that there won't be any "VIP pass" for him or whatever.


Why wouldn't she?

I've read your post a couple of times and I didn't understand what you wanted from me and how did it matter what it was called.

I'm writing "a VIP pass" in this thread all the time. A British newspaper used it too, so I guess it must be correct.

As for "przejście VIP-owskie" - it was just a quoted sentence by Wałęsa from the article.
That's how Wałęsa called it.
I don't know what's the right expression in Polish for this.
You think it should be "przepustka VIP-owska"?


In Polish or in English?

OK, jon357, I'm not a Nobel winning ex-President lol and I have absolutely no idea what the procedures are in such case.

you can say that way.

From comments on Gazeta Wyborcza:
author: qurczak111

"A więc wojna!

Nie będzie angol pluł nam w twarz
ni w majtach nam buszował
orężny stanie hufiec nasz
Lech będzie nam wodzował."

I want to share this comment as I find it very funny.It's in Polish but I am sure that PF members who are residents of Poland know Polish.

Translate it please or it will be moved.

"Then war it is!

No English shall spit in our faces
nor rummage in our panties
a mighty regiment of ours shall stand
and Lech will be our chieftain."

(or sth of this kind lol)

xD

Thank you very much my little helpful pixie :) Lenka

It's a reference to Józef Beck's speech from 1939 and this is what makes this "poem" funny in my opinion.

That's why your mothers were right when they told you to always wear clean underwear.

I never had a problem at Heathrow, perhaps it's my winning smile :)
I was treated distrustfully at Domodedovo but still, it was short of rudeness

"Nie będzie angol pluł nam w twarz"
Not just Britains but also anyone else.

Quite a big issue about parking charges and the US embassy right now.


You guess wrong.


His office do. Lol.

Nie będzie Angol pluł nam w twarz
ni w majtach nam buszował
orężny stanie hufiec nasz
Lech będzie nam wodzował

And how do you like this one:

The Limey won't spit in Lech's face,
Nor let him go with socks to race
His mob will rise in his defence,
The man of hope will jump the fence.

If he'd jumped the fence they'd probably have tasered him

Good one!


Okey, jon357, so what's the correct term used by native speakers of English? And why a British newspaper used the wrong one?


Does he have an office, though?

Take it easy.

The Limey won't spit in Lech's face, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rota_(poem)#Text
Nor let him go with socks to race - As he did with everyone but those intended
His mob will rise in his defence
The Man of Hope will jump the fence - As we all know he just jumped over the fence and the communism collapsed as the result of that;

Btw, The Man of Hope is the name of the latest film about him, the one which Walesa promoted in London.

Hahahahahahahahaha

Oops sorrry, too late :P

In England this sport has already overtaken cricket in popularity xD

Don't shoot the messenger ;)

It's good that you've decided to show your true colours, blue. I guess your lot always do, eventually.

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about Paulina.
I'm guessing by the 'your lot' comment that there's supposed to be an offensive blanket statement in your post somewhere :P

As I said before 'don't shoot the messenger'...

You should also remember that it takes two to tango - and no-one's complaining... ;)

Its not new. The Americans have refused to pay parking fines and congestion charges for decades. The figures must be tens of millions of pounds,

I guess you don't.


Not really, there must be some gentlemen among the British... somewhere... I hope...


True, but you see, only men feel the need to be primitive, retarded, rude and demeaning towards women about it.
I'm sure you're proud of yourself. You're so funny.

The same reason Polish newspapers get things wrong. In this case it rather looks like the person who did the Polish English translation was at fault, doesn't it.


Yes.

I read it all - yawn :)

You're wrong. The quoted words are not of Józef Beck but of Stefan Starzyński.

Polish Minister of Foreign Affairs Józef Beck, 5th of May, 1939:

Pokój jest rzeczą cenną i pożądaną. Nasza generacja skrwawiona w wojnach na pewno na pokój zasługuje. Ale pokój, jak prawie wszystkie sprawy tego świata ma swoją cenę wysoką, ale wymierną. My w Polsce nie znamy pojęcia pokoju za wszelką cenę. Jest jedna tylko rzecz w życiu ludzi, narodów i państw, która jest bezcenna. Tą rzeczą jest honor.

Peace is a precious and desirable thing. Our generation, bloodied in wars, certainly deserves peace. But peace, like almost all things of this world, has its price, a high but measurable one. We in Poland do not know the concept of peace at any price. There is only one thing in the lives of men, nations and countries that is without price. That thing is honour.



President of Warsaw, 1st of September, 1939: - Stefan Starzyński:

Halo, halo. Tu Warszawa i wszystkie rozgłośnie Polskiego Radia. O godzinie 5.40 oddziały niemieckie przekroczyły polską granicę, łamiąc pakt o nieagresji. Zbombardowano szereg miast. Za chwilę usłyszą państwo komunikat specjalny - mówił spiker.

Po chwili do słuchaczy przemówił prezydent Warszawy Stefan Starzyński.
- A więc wojna. Z dniem dzisiejszym wszystkie sprawy i zagadnienia schodzą na plan dalszy. Całe nasze życie publiczne i prywatne przestawiamy na specjalne tory. Weszliśmy w okres wojny. Wysiłek całego narodu musi iść w jednym kierunku. Wszyscy jesteśmy żołnierzami. Musimy myśleć tylko o jednym: walka aż do zwycięstwa - powiedział Starzyński.

Looks like I was indeed.

I am English and have great respect for Mr Walesca and the Polish people. I am embarrassed and apologise.

If you have travelled by aircraft to Poland and back, you would know exactly what I'm talking about. It's a shame you are not allowed to get your camera out or I'd video it. I'm just saying what I see as tactfully as possible. Stop being so blinkered.

I have and I don't know what you are talking about.

Merged: Lech Walesa Criticises David Cameron on Immigration

theguardian.com/politics/2013/dec/23/david-cameron-immigration-le ch-walesa

theguardian.com/politics/2013/dec/23/david-cameron-immigration-lech-walesa

Lech Walesa is not British. I wish Lech Walesa would focus on the problems that cause Poles to escape Poland. He caused a great deal of problems.

Him and his successor Kwasniewski sold Publicly owned companies to their crooked friends for pennies on the dollar. Jan Kulczyk and many others are rich due to the

scandalous deals they made with the commies that still run Poland. Britain should make sure Britain is British and a good place for the British to work, live and raise their families. Poland needs to make sure Poland is a prosperous place for the average Pole so that young average Poles can raise their children in Poland on a decent salary.

Poland has a highly motivated and educated work force. They need to be more politically involved in removing the people who are responsible for Poland's failures after 1992.

There is no excuse for Poland not being one of the richest countries in the EU.

Flawed logic, Britain is an island, it has always attracted immigrants.

When exactly does a person become 'British'? When they are born there? When they live there for a few years?
Or must their roots stretch back generations?

Citizenship means much less today thanks to the globalists. I will not define what is "British". It must not exist. No nationality or ethnicity exists. They are social constructs.

At least that's what the majority is told by the media and liberal academia. Tell that to the disadvantaged non-European minorities. Many of them can clearly see who is "British" and who is not. Sure, the internationalist/globalist ideals that Britain (or any nation for that matter) has a drastic demographic change so that multinational corporations can have a cheaper workforce, new voting block to enact legislation that will favor the ruling elites, alienation of previous inhabitants, reduced unity/cohesion in order to divide and conquer, and countless of other reasons..... must be wonderful. Why is it forced upon the previous inhabitants if it is so wonderful?

A completely pointless rule that simply needs to be changed.

from the same article:



Indeed they are, and the sooner the masses accept that the better.
Knowledge is power after all.

Unfortunately you probably will get to see your utopia in the next few decades. It will be a disaster for Western Civilization.

Rand is a mouthpiece for the elites. Their ideas are as likely to achieve a paradise as those of Marx and Engels