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Komorowski - Russian stooge, traitor background


Varsovian 92 | 634
29 Jun 2010 #1
Broniek's daddy was allegedly from the AK (Home Army) and was captured by the Soviets who, instead of executing him, swiftly promoted him to officer level.

Go figure.

Platforma - the Solidarity faction who in 1989 successfully pushed for the former Communists to steal state assets with legal impunity and not to face prosecution for their crimes under Communism.

Broniek - the face of modern Poland!!

OOPS
delphiandomine 85 | 18,270
29 Jun 2010 #2
Broniek's daddy was allegedly from the AK (Home Army) and was captured by the Soviets who, instead of executing him, swiftly promoted him to officer level.

Allegedly?

How about sticking to facts?

Kaczynski's father WAS in the AK, and he was allowed to stay in Poland post 1945 without any punishment. His children were allowed to be on TV, and funnily enough, his sons (despite being involved in Solidarity) seemed to stay out of prison during martial law - odd, huh? I mean, Komorowski was imprisoned during that time.

Instead of making up nonsense about Komorowski without any proof, let's stick to the facts - and the facts show that someone was protecting the Kaczynski twins. It, after all, is rather odd that they escaped attention and were allowed to continue to work freely without prosecution. Or they were simply nobodies - which is it?

Platforma - the Solidarity faction who in 1989 successfully pushed for the former Communists to steal state assets with legal impunity and not to face prosecution for their crimes under Communism.

May I remind you that the "PiS" side of Solidarity signed the Round Table Agreement too? If they were so honourable, why did they sign?
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,377
29 Jun 2010 #3
Platforma

BS

Platforma did not even exist back than, and where is the substance to back up your allegations?
Zed - | 195
29 Jun 2010 #4
Smear tactics - that's what PiS followers have mastered well.... Go Bronek go!!!
Ziemowit 13 | 4,094
29 Jun 2010 #5
While Bronek Komorowski's nobel family was persecuted because of their origin (they were deprived of their land and home, I think), the Kaczyński family were pretty well-off in the communist times. Who told you to gossip this nonsense of yours, Varsovian?
delphiandomine 85 | 18,270
29 Jun 2010 #6
Smear tactics - that's what PiS followers have mastered well.

Incredibly poor smear tactics as well - they can't even get their facts right.

the Kaczyński family were pretty well-off in the communist times.

And this was despite Kaczynski's father being in the AK. Very strange, don't you think?
Seanus 15 | 19,706
29 Jun 2010 #7
The man's life was spared. It must be remembered that he fought in the AK originally and the change was forced upon him. Given the brutality of the Soviets of that era, would anyone else have done differently?
mafketis 23 | 8,428
29 Jun 2010 #8
The man's life was spared. It must be remembered that he fought in the AK originally

Who are you talking about? Komorowski's father? Kaczynski's father? Both? Someone else?
Seanus 15 | 19,706
29 Jun 2010 #9
I was responding to the OP
Ziemowit 13 | 4,094
29 Jun 2010 #10
And this was despite Kaczynski's father being in the AK. Very strange, don't you think?

Actually, I wouldn't think so. While I classify Varsovian's attempt to discredit Komorowski as a complete nonsense, I'd say that the Kaczyński's case seems plausible. The commies would not necessarily persecute an "ordinary" fighter of the AK unless he was an "ideologist", especially after the end of the war. Of course, those people would not go around telling everyone "I was in the AK and I was risking my life for the cause of an independent Poland". They kept silent and the bravery of those people had never been acknowledged by the vassal state of the People's Republic of Poland.

Contrary to that, the "władza ludowa" or the communist regime was allergic to the social class of land owners and capital owners, that is "zadowolonych właścicieli pałaców, banków i brylantów" (as the poet Julian Tuwim so aptly put it in his pre-war poem "Kwiaty polskie"), and it was Bronisław Komorowski's family who fell victim of that stance having lived in near-starvation for many years after the Soviets brought "independence" to Poland.
kondzior 10 | 1,024
30 Jun 2010 #11
Ancient history notwithstanding (I would not like to be judged by what my father was too) Komorowski used his temporary seat to forward decisions that should be made by a president, who would have a mandate from elections. The premature nominations for NBP chief, army generals, signing laws that previous president didn't want to(IPN). He is overusing his competitions. He was not nominated by us and as so those decisions should be invalidated since there was no hurry. Komorowski makes faux pas almost every time he opens his mouth. Should I vote for a guy who's supported by a moron who goes by the name Palikot?

Komorowski is a complete moron with no idea about national economy, also voting for him means 100% power for PO without any control from the opposition. I don't want this, especially after their so "liberal" ideas for internet censorship.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
2 Jul 2010 #12
Lech Kaczyński was amongst those rounded up and jailed during martial law. His brother Jarosław was not and once ventured the guess that maybe that was so the SB would have someone to follow who might lead them to Solidarity's underground structures.
mafketis 23 | 8,428
2 Jul 2010 #13
Lech Kaczyński was amongst those rounded up and jailed during martial law. His brother Jarosław was not

And he never forgave them for that slight....
Harry
2 Jul 2010 #14
Lech Kaczyński was amongst those rounded up and jailed during martial law. His brother Jarosław was not

Perhaps the SB had more than enough dirt on Jarek to make sure he did what they wanted? I wonder what that dirt could possibly have been.
mafketis 23 | 8,428
2 Jul 2010 #15
I wonder, wonder, wonder ......
Zed - | 195
2 Jul 2010 #16
Komorowski acted in accordance with the constitution. There was nothing premature about his actions, and they were 100% legal.
Harry
2 Jul 2010 #17
I wonder, wonder, wonder ......

Obviously it can't have been that Jarek is gay, because Jarek is most certainly not one of what his brother memorably described as "perverts".
frd 7 | 1,399
2 Jul 2010 #18
100% power for PO without any control from the opposition

Well.. exactly same situation was when PiS was in power, it was awful so let's check the other option now.
mafketis 23 | 8,428
2 Jul 2010 #19
Poland had a PiS/PiS government and most people didn't like it (since PiS invited proto-fascists and known criminals into their government),

it had a PO/PiS government and wasn't much happier about it,

why not try a PO/PO government for a change?

If they don't like it, they can always try something different.
sailor - | 3
2 Jul 2010 #20
why not try a PO/PO government for a change?

why not try? for God's sake it is elections not gambling! You can't choose the president just to try how it will be, it's not for fun. You make a decision for 5 years which may be crucial for Poland. Following your way of thinking we should choose Lepper or Korwin-Mikke now since they have never had chance to have such power s why not try...
Seanus 15 | 19,706
2 Jul 2010 #21
This lame idiot even gets young girls to cheer for him. He is a pathetic fool!! Slogan after slogan.
Bolle 1 | 147
3 Jul 2010 #22
Who told you to gossip this nonsense of yours, Varsovian

Varsovian - just another foreigner in Poland who thinks he understands the country. Change your name to Londoner please and preach about the UK.
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,377
3 Jul 2010 #23
Perhaps the SB had more than enough dirt on Jarek to make sure he did what they wanted? I wonder what that dirt could possibly have been.

His supposed homosexuality? Which would mean that he would not be very popular with his base if he ever came out.
mafketis 23 | 8,428
3 Jul 2010 #24
why not try? for God's sake it is elections not gambling! You can't choose the president just to try how it will be, it's not for fun. You make a decision for 5 years which may be crucial for Poland. Following your way of thinking we should choose Lepper or Korwin-Mikke now since they have never had chance to have such power s why not try...

Well with Poland's particular system there's no guarantee a government can last five years, the last PiS government didn't.

And the president isn't such an important position (the powers of the position are all negative).

And BK is not in the league of Lepper (convicted criminal whose policies have no basis in reality) or K-M (who fortunately doesn't know any better than to say what he thinks which keeps him safely marginalized). He's a competent, if unspectacular and not very charismatic politician.

If JK wins, expect more of the same as the country got from his brother (constant bickering over trivial issues of protocal and/or roadblocks for the sake of roadblocks).

If BK there will be something different, I'm curious about what it might be.
kondzior 10 | 1,024
3 Jul 2010 #25
I, for one, do prefere the government to be engaged in petty bickering. That way they do not have time to ruin everyone's else life, as I do not believe that ANY government is physically able to do something good. Every single change they would impose on us will turn our situation to the worse.
mafketis 23 | 8,428
3 Jul 2010 #26
I, for one, do prefere the government to be engaged in petty bickering

I'm a lot more sympathetic to people who'll be voting for JK because they want deadlock than for those who think he'd do anything good......
sailor - | 3
3 Jul 2010 #27
He's a competent

competent? Let me prove you thathe is completely incompetent and doesn't have even basic knowledge. These things I wrote in different thread but I will copy it here:

he doesn't know the constitution (he proved it many times),

he didn't know that Norwey is not the member of EU,

he was using in campaign slogans about pullin out soldiers from Afganistan putting polish soldiers in a great risk saying such things in public (not suprising then that soldiers are so against Komorowski),

he says that Poland may not use its gas because the method of mining is destructive for the environment (while all the scientists say that this method is not being used for many years and mining of the gas doesn't pose any danger for the environment)

he doesn't distinguish Gross Domestic Product notion from budget deficit,

he doesn't distinguish notions of netto payer from netto beneficiary so he has probably no idea about EU politics

he and Tusk can't even lead the investigation of the biggest polish tragedy in Smolensk and death of the former president in Smolensk, they don't explain all the fishy facts around this crash so if they can't or don't want to do this so how can they lead the whole country properly?
delphiandomine 85 | 18,270
3 Jul 2010 #28
(not suprising then that soldiers are so against Komorowski),

Yet more rubbish from Kaczynski supporters.

Komorowski WON in the first round with soldiers, so they're hardly "against" him.

he and Tusk can't even lead the investigation of the biggest polish tragedy in Smolensk and death of the former president in Smolensk, they don't explain all the fishy facts around this crash so if they can't or don't want to do this so how can they lead the whole country properly?

Ah, the usual paranoia. Has Jaroslaw complained? No? Then you should follow his lead.

Tell us though, what are the "fishy facts"? Let's have some evidence that doesn't rely on dodgy Islamic terrorists :)
OP Varsovian 92 | 634
5 Jul 2010 #29
Thread attached on merging:
Komorowski and Kwasniewski - problem of their fathers

Look up Kwasniewski on Wikipedia - and unlike every other president you can think of ... he has no father!

Why? Because his Lithuanian father was in the Russian security apparatus! And friends with Danuta Huebner's father - who was actually Polish.

Komorowski. My goodness! Poles simply can't help voting for sons of traitors. His father - a minor Polish noble - was in the AK (Home Army) during the war. Taken prisoner by the Russians, he was immediately appointed an officer. What's more, he assumed the country estate and name of a dead man called K-O-M-O-R-O-W-S-K-I

Liar, cheat, thief, traitor - though doubtless this apple will fall far from the apple tree :)


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