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Kaczynski to be buried at Wawel ?!


polishmeknob 5 | 155
15 Apr 2010 #181
Well, isn't this a contentious issue? I'm have mixed feelings about this whole thing (and I'm quite surprised that he would be buried there.)

Here's more (plus some pictures.): polishmeknob.blogspot.com/2010/04/plane-crash-after-effects-lying-in.html
gregy741 4 | 1,204
15 Apr 2010 #182
"So ... here is the proof you are ranting and no one should take you seriously"-here is the proof that you are a moron..

as for leaders prising Kaczynski-it was not only Shakashvili but even his fierce enemies like Miedviedev were prising him
i watched Medvedew interviev for "russia today"and one could see how affected he was by this death.i dont thing so it would be the case if it was moron Kwasniewski.

I im not really into politics but i didnt feel sorrow after death of John Paul 2.But for some reason i was realy sad by death of Kaczynski.
pgtx 30 | 3,158
15 Apr 2010 #183
Leaders who will attend the ceremony: That looks kind of scary, tbh...
Bzibzioh
15 Apr 2010 #184
Chiny: minister transport Li Shenglin

That's kinda funny ...

Yeah, airport in Balice will be very busy.
gregy741 4 | 1,204
15 Apr 2010 #185
i watched report in french tv about this protest in Cracow,seen Dorota Stalinska barking at Kaczynskis funeral in wawel,i shocked how low people can fall.i hope ***** will burn in hell
Harry
15 Apr 2010 #186
airport in Balice will be very busy.

Best hope it ain't foggy, eh?
Stu 12 | 522
15 Apr 2010 #187
the proof that you are a moron

Is that all you can say? Wow ... astonished about your intelligence, really!

one could see how affected he was by this death

one could see how affected he was by this death

All leaders showed their horror and sadness about the crash and his early demise. It is called decency and they would do it with everyone who would have been PL-president.

Leaders who will attend the ceremony

You can add następca tronu książę Willem-Alexander and premier Jan-Peter Balkenende.
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,456
15 Apr 2010 #188
Niemcy: kanclerz Angela Merkel

And Presidenta Köhlera....;)
Filios1 8 | 1,336
15 Apr 2010 #189
No one from Serbia?

Węgry: prezydent Laszlo Solyom, premier Gordon Bajnai

I love Hungarians....
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,444
15 Apr 2010 #190
No one from Serbia?

maybe Crow will show up.
Filios1 8 | 1,336
15 Apr 2010 #191
No one from Greece? I'm embarassed...
Pibwl - | 50
15 Apr 2010 #192
The fact remains that the President was killed whilst performing his duties as President, he was democratically elected by the majority of people

So why wasn't Gabriel Narutowicz burried at Wawel?

and died a loved leader,

Definitely no. He became a loved leader after his death. While he was alive, he was "loved" by no more, than 20% of Poles, while a majority thought he was an inappropriate person for this office.

Counting myself within this majority, I really admired Lech Kaczyński for his trials to improve relations with Jews, Ukrainians and Lithuanians, even against his party. Unfortunately, these were the only cases of LK going against his party's line. And I'm sad, that Jarosław Kaczyński managed to spoil mourning and divide Poles with such an idea. He must have known it would be a provocation. No one would say a bad word about LK, if Jarosław had not come with it.

Wawel is a place where people are buried who supported their country in a traditional catholic faith for a better Poland, Kaczynski will go down as a great political leader who wanted a true independent Poland, not a Russian or US State.

Wannabe is not enough. Poniatowski is remebered for commanding Polish forces in Napoleonic Wars and dying in a battle, Sikorski is remembered for commanding Polish forces in exile during WWII and dying on that occasion, Piłsudski is remembered as a father of independence and CiC during the Polish Soviet War (although his merits for Poland could be debated). Does Kaczyński really fit there? He will be remembered as a president, who died in an aircrash.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
15 Apr 2010 #193
Very true, he really didn't shape up to their stature. They were streets ahead in their commitment to Polish causes. LK was a patriot, yes, but his actions were not seen in the same light/vein as real Polish heroes.
DannyJ - | 129
15 Apr 2010 #194
Best hope it ain't foggy, eh?

or volcanic ash (we are covered in the stuff here)
sobieski 107 | 2,128
15 Apr 2010 #195
It has to be the Russians, the Jews or the Freemasons (or maybe PO ?) who made the volcano to wake up :)
Pibwl - | 50
15 Apr 2010 #196
It's all the same - but you forgot Germans ;-)
Seanus 15 | 19,706
15 Apr 2010 #197
Well, the chocolates will be good for the guests ;)

I hope the Wawel dragon appears to get medieval on their as* ;) ;)
plk123 8 | 4,150
15 Apr 2010 #198
The fact remains that he was President and died in the line of his duty

the fact is that he wasn't even invited so he didn't really die in the line of duty.. technically.

he was out of line.

yup but since a lot of his supporters are just as big of bigots they think he was just super.. him being entombed at wawel is a total travesty, imho.

You know this for a FACT or only from rumors?

sure seems like that is exactly what it is.. mark mhy words if you want to but the evidence points to the pilot making a tragic mistake. yup.

The bloke was a complete and utter [word

exactly.. lol.. i am surprised that some people seem to ignore the facts and now praise that guy.. he was not great by any stretch of imagination..

act like "dumb Polacks".

like i said many times before already, entombing kaczka and his wife at wawel is the A"dumb pollack" move.. it's ignorant of polish history..
Filios1 8 | 1,336
15 Apr 2010 #199
Plk, I really thought you were more intelligent than that man...
Seanus 15 | 19,706
15 Apr 2010 #200
Plk123 is right here. Nobody asked him to come out 70 frickin years after the event. What, 70 is ruby, sapphire or emerald? ;) ;)

And here's tweedledummer in to contribute nothing worthwhile.
Filios1 8 | 1,336
15 Apr 2010 #201
Nobody asked him to come out 70 frickin years after the event

Seanus, are you a moron or something? Kaczynski wasn't invited to the ceremony. As President, someone who is supposed to represent the state at just these kinds of ceremonies, it was his duty to go anyway, invited or not. The fact that Tusk and the Russian government backstabbed him, didn't deter him from taking part in a very, very important ceremony for all Poles. You've lived in Poland how long, Seanus? And you still don't know that? You must be taking in too much lead my friend, your brain is really behind.

Amazing how when a guy dies, there are always these rats that come scurrying to the forefront with criticisms. Where was your courage to criticize this guy earlier?

tweedledummer in to contribute nothing worthwhile

19000 posts, and nothing worthwile. Why don't you give it a rest, Seanus.. no one really likes you in real life, and no one will ever really like you here, ******* twat.
plk123 8 | 4,150
15 Apr 2010 #202
Plk, I really thought you were more intelligent than that man...

sorry you don't like my opinions but i am right on this topic.. sorry man.

What, 70 is ruby, sapphire or emerald? ;) ;)

not sure if 70 is anything.. need to wait to 75 to be something.. ;) :D
Filios1 8 | 1,336
15 Apr 2010 #203
i am right on this topic

Irony is that you couldn't be more wrong...

What have you done for Poland, oh Polish Patriot, to even have a say in saying who is, and who is worthy? Why do you live in the States instead of building our country up, like Kaczynski had as a mission?
Seanus 15 | 19,706
15 Apr 2010 #204
First off, no. Yes, he wasn't invited, that's right. His duty, says who? How many times did he go before? Where did I say that they didn't backstab him? They did and LK was fed up of being snubbed.

Ask my wife that, I often criticised him and his brother. I made a point of not criticising on the day of his death and the immediate aftermath. I, unlike others, towed a consistent line.

If you look at many posts closely, you will see the merit in them, Filios. I'm not into pretending to have numerous friends btw. Many do that on FB and it's sad. At least I'm well educated, respectful and highly successful on many fronts.
plk123 8 | 4,150
15 Apr 2010 #205
and no one will ever really like you here

wrong again.. why do you keep saying sh.t like this.. makes you look less then normal.. come on filios buddy.. give it a rest.. kaczka is really non deserving of all that much praise.. seriously, think about it a bunch, please, maybe you will realize what we already know.. no wawel for him.. like i said, i really don't think he even deserves the cathedral in warsaw but i'd let him in there just so he's not in krakow.

What have you done for Poland, oh Polish Patriot,

i thought this thread was about kaczynski not me.. hmm

beside, jaruzelski didn't want me back so i am here, ok?
Seanus 15 | 19,706
15 Apr 2010 #206
Filios is just jealous because he will be plunged into the sea. The question is 'before or after his death?' ;)

LK can be buried there because it is in the private, Catholic part of the grounds which is not res publicae. His daughter also wished it, although she would have preferred somewhere closer to her place of residence.
richasis 1 | 420
15 Apr 2010 #207
It has to be the Russians, the Jews or the Freemasons

The Americans would be insulted by your omission of them in this fine list :)

beside, jaruzelski didn't want me back so i am here, ok?

It's okay; he's gone now. :)
plk123 8 | 4,150
15 Apr 2010 #208
It's okay; he's gone now. :)

so i should uproot my life and have to deal with the likes of kaczynski?? riiiiiiiiiiiiight. ;) :D
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,456
15 Apr 2010 #209
What have you done for Poland, oh Polish Patriot, to even have a say in saying who is, and who is worthy?

Plk, I really thought you were more intelligent than that man...

Well, Wajda is also against this move....would you call him an worthless idiot too???
Pibwl - | 50
15 Apr 2010 #210
Some Poles on internet forums do :-( I repeat: it's sad, that Jarosław managed to divide Poles with his decision.

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