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10,000 ISRAELIS READY TO CLAIM FOR POLISH CITIZENSHIP AND POLISH LAND!


EbonyandBathory 5 | 249
6 Mar 2008 #511
Doesn't anyone realize that just 100 years ago Poland was as diverse as any nation in Europe? Just 70 years ago? When Julie describes Southern California, it might as well be Poland in 1923. It was a giant melting pot of people of different faiths, creeds, and nationalities. What happened is due to giant powers on either side, Poland went from being one of the most diverse countries to one of the most homogenized. It's a shame, but all the people who thought differently or were different from the approved list of people from both Germany and Russia were forced out, left on their own, or were killed. Poland not long ago was as diverse and tolerant as can be, why couldn't it become this way once again?
Lukasz 49 | 1,746
6 Mar 2008 #512
Poland not long ago was as diverse and tolerant as can be, why couldn't it become this way once again?

It seems that Poland form 1500 - 1939 is comming back.
matthias 3 | 429
6 Mar 2008 #513
Mathias, like your 'Darkness' avatar, from Topcow, by Marc Sylvestri. ;>

Thanks

What's funny is that this is happening at the same time when millions of Polish are living and working all over Europe, and they receive help and tolerance wherever they go.
The words "double standard" come to mind, don't they?

Obvously you must not have heard of the racism Poles are experiencing in UK.

Poles were not in charge of our own Nation back then, there is no need to make us pay obscene amounts of money now for what foreign regimes did back then.

Agreed, If anybody should compensate Jews, it should be Russians and Germans.
szkotja2007 27 | 1,498
9 Mar 2008 #514
From yesterdays news -
Poland's president has promised to restore citizenship to thousands of Jews who were expelled from the country by the communists in 1968

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7285304.stm
Crow 160 | 10,261
9 Mar 2008 #515
Poland's president has promised to restore citizenship to thousands of Jews who were expelled from the country by the communists in 1968
URL

no, no comment
RockyMason 19 | 250
9 Mar 2008 #516
YAY for jews! I think some smart jews would do poland alot of good! Maybe help their 2nd world status.
JuliePotocka 5 | 188
9 Mar 2008 #517
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7283899.stm - Austria haunted by Nazi Past

It doesn't matter what your religious upbringing is; a Pole is a Pole, as is an Austrian an Austrian. Many families were betrayed, murdered.

What is wrong fixing a wrong?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
9 Mar 2008 #518
Austrians were more nazi than Germans. Any comparision with Poland is simply ridiculous.
matthias 3 | 429
9 Mar 2008 #519
YAY for jews! I think some smart jews would do poland alot of good! Maybe help their 2nd world status.

Lol............. that's all I have to say
Szczery - | 22
9 Mar 2008 #521
Billions of people if not more through history have been kicked out and had homes taken away. These people need to suck it up and deal with it. The past is the past. The world is a cruel place.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,069
10 Mar 2008 #522
Austria haunted by Nazi Past
It doesn't matter what your religious upbringing is; a Pole is a Pole, as is an Austrian an Austrian. Many families were betrayed, murdered

Just some Austrians:

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Hermine Braunsteiner, (July 16, 1919 – April 19, 1999), was a Nazi war criminal who personally participated in the, often, painful and cruel deaths of women and children.

Alois Brunner (born April 8, 1912; reports of death contested) is an Austrian Nazi war criminal. Brunner was Adolf Eichmann's assistant, and Eichmann referred to Brunner as his "best man."

Amon Leopold Göth (or Goeth; November 12, 1908 – September 13, 1946) was a Hauptsturmführer of the SS and was the commandant of the Nazi concentration camp at Płaszów, Poland

Maximilian Grabner (born 1905 died 1948), Austrian Gestapo chief in Auschwitz.

Aribert Heim (born June 28, 1914- ????) is a former Austrian doctor. As an SS doctor in a Nazi concentration camp in Mauthausen, he is accused of killing and harrassing many inmates through various methods, such as direct injections of toxic compounds into the hearts of his victims. Along with Alois Brunner, Heim — who would now be (as of 2008) in his early nineties — is one of the last major Nazi fugitives still at large.

Adolf Hitler

Otto Hofmann (March 16, 1896 – December 31, 1982) was an Austrian SS-Gruppenführer and an official of Nazi Germany's "Race and Settlement Main Office". He was present at the Wannsee Conference planning the Holocaust against the Jews.

Ernst Kaltenbrunner (October 4, 1903 – October 16, 1946) was a senior Nazi official during World War II. He was the highest ranking SS leader to face trial. He was executed for war crimes and crimes against humanity.

Franz Kutschera (22 February 1904 in Oberwaltersdorf in Lower Austria – 1 February 1944 in Warsaw, Poland) was an SS general and Gauleiter of Carinthia.
As SS and Police Leader of the Warsaw district, he was sentenced to death by high command of the Polish Home Army in agreement with the Polish government in exile and assassinated by the members of Polish Home Army in the center of Warsaw (in front of Warsaw SS Headquarters).

Ernst Lerch (November 19, 1914 - 1997) was one of the most important men of Operation Reinhard (Aktion Reinhard), responsible for "Jewish affairs", and the mass murder of the Jews in the Polish General Government (Generalgouvernement).

Dr. Siegfried Seidl (August 24, 1911 in Tulln, Lower Austria; then Austria-Hungary – February 4, 1947 in Vienna) was a World War II Commandant of the Theresienstadt concentration camp located in what is now the Czech Republic.

Dr Arthur Seyss-Inquart (born Arthur Zajtich[citation needed]) (July 22, 1892 – October 16, 1946) was a prominent lawyer and later Nazi official in pre-Anschluss Austria, the Third Reich and for wartime Germany in Poland and the Netherlands. Seyss-Inquart was executed at the Nuremberg Trials for crimes against humanity.

Franz Stangl (March 26, 1908 – June 28, 1971) was an SS officer, commandant of the Sobibór and of Treblinka extermination camp.

The Baron Otto Gustav von Wächter (born July 8, 1901 in Vienna, died August 14 or September 10, 1949, in Rome, Italy), was a lawyer, an SS general officer and a National Socialist politician, successively governor of the Cracow and Galicia districts under the General Government. In spite of having escaped trial in Nuremberg, Wächter's responsibilities for the persecution and mass murder of Jews in Poland and Ukraine have since been fairly documented.

Gustav Franz Wagner (born July 18, 1911 in Vienna – died 1980) was an SS officer and deputy commandant of the German Sobibór death camp in Poland, where more than 200,000 were gassed during Operation Reinhard.


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How do you like Austria Julie?
Crow 160 | 10,261
10 Mar 2008 #523
I nicely said, give them money, nothing else, with all due respect

Why Polish diplomacy always tend to do opposite of that what i suggest? Do they follow my posts here and deflect from my proposals???!

Now, what is next- authonomy for Jews in Poland, same as existed authonomy for Albanians in Serbia?

i would just warns you that authonomy in some cases (when come to Slavic territories) lead in separatism
matthias 3 | 429
10 Mar 2008 #524
Why Polish diplomacy always tend to do opposite of that what i suggest? Do they follow my posts here and deflect from my proposals???!

lmao.... It sure would be a good strategy(j/k)......
Szczery - | 22
10 Mar 2008 #525
The reds got off on distributing all kinds of slouch to make germans in general look like evil devils. If more people only knew what went on behind the schene's in the moscow show trials the soviets put on.
WAKEUPPOLAND2 - | 35
12 Mar 2008 #526
If more people only knew what went on behind the schene's in the moscow show trials the soviets put on.

Pls elaborate....I would be interested to know.
matthias 3 | 429
12 Mar 2008 #527
Neither the Soviets or the Germans were differant from one another. They both acted liked savages.
JuliePotocka 5 | 188
12 Mar 2008 #528
I posted an article, Bratboy - from a Jewish Austrian, from her point of view. Ergo, it was a microcosm, within a MACRO-cosm.

I will reiterate: I WASN'T ALIVE, I WASN'T THERE, in Poland, Germany, Austria, Ukraine, nor Russia, nor even in the center of the Phillipines, nore Nagasaki during the drop of the A-bomb!

Szczery - I'd also like an elaboration, please. None of us have heard of this before now.
Szczery - | 22
13 Mar 2008 #529
SHOW TRIALS

Have a good read: trotsky.net/trotsky_year/moscow_trials.html reaserch further to get some more grasp if you will. These people are the real scum.
fenton - | 8
17 Mar 2008 #530
if they keep the muslims out its ok
WAKEUPPOLAND2 - | 35
1 Apr 2008 #531
So its ok to say keep Muslims out.....what about Indians and Srilankans? What if they are dark but not muslims? Are they ok to be let in ? I've seen these guys increasing in number in Polish Hospitals....

What of he's a muslim from North Pakistan or Syria where they often have blue/green eyes and brown hair....Are they ok ?

What if I hypothetically say:

"if they keep the jews out its ok"

mmmm??
joepilsudski 26 | 1,389
1 Apr 2008 #532
yes yes,and they invented aeroplanes and penicilin and those nice paper thingys you have at posh dinner parties...yawn....shame Democracy comes from the GREEK, created while Poles were still in mud huts..... oh and polish "democracy" dont make me larf, a few robber barons and the vast majority of the population were slaves to the land,tied to their masters land and unable to leave on pain of death..look it up .

On a serious note here you make a good point...If there is such a thing as a 'Polish mentality', I would note this about it: it is a mentality that is way too conservative when looking at the 'bigger picture' and it also tends to get caught up in small quarrels to the detriment of the Polish people as a whole...now, this is on the political level...as far as art and science, I would hope the Poles are creating and discovering new things...I find it hard to get news about Poland in the USA, so I try to look to this forum to gain insights about some of this.
matthias 3 | 429
1 Apr 2008 #533
try:

wbj.pl
warsawvoice.com
poland.pl

First two are English language newspapers with descent insight and the last is a English website will lots of info....
joepilsudski 26 | 1,389
3 Apr 2008 #534
Gustav Franz Wagner (born July 18, 1911 in Vienna - died 1980) was an SS officer and deputy commandant of the German Sobibór death camp in Poland, where more than 200,000 were gassed during Operation Reinhard.

From the evidence I have see, there has never been any concrete, verifiable evidence of any 'mass gassing' of Jews during WWII...the only real expert who ever inspected Aishwitz and other sites, an American who designed the gas chamber used to execute prisoners in California, USA, stated that, from his observation, that there was absoluely no physical evidence for any gas chambers...the American expert who exposed this was Fred Leuchter.

Here is a link you can start with: ihr.org/leaflets/gaschambers.shtml...but I warn you, if you really want to know the truth about this, you will have to spend some time reading.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
3 Apr 2008 #535
Joe, do you know that Piłsudski liked Jews ?
isthatu2 4 | 2,702
3 Apr 2008 #536
Well said G'
BTW Joe,that guy has been well and truelly debunked.Part of his "proof" was that the scenes in Schindlers list where Amon Goethe shoots people from his balcony in Plasow camp must have been made up as Steven Speilberg admited he didnt make an accuratte copy of the camp for his film....Ive been to the site of Plasow,and let me tell you,from the hill where the villa was,even without the elavation of being 2 stories up I could still get a clear view of the entire site.

He also claims that from the samples he took in crem 2(3) didnt show any traces of Gift Gas...er,D'oh,60 years of exposure to the elements kinda makes that a no brainer.....
WAKEUPPOLAND2 - | 35
3 Apr 2008 #537
Steven Speilberg admited he didnt make an accuratte copy of the camp for his film

Interesting. I wonder why? Surely something so historically important and there is not enough research available to make an accurate copy...?

Genuine question...DOES ANYONE HERE KNOW OF ANY OFFICIAL VERSION OF EVENTS BY AN OFFICIAL BODY?
Kilkline 1 | 689
3 Apr 2008 #538
Genuine question...DOES ANYONE HERE KNOW OF ANY OFFICIAL VERSION OF EVENTS BY AN OFFICIAL BODY?

Define 'Official Body'. I thought they were all run by Jews anyway so what do you care, Borat?
isthatu2 4 | 2,702
3 Apr 2008 #539
Interesting. I wonder why? Surely something so historically important and there is not enough research available to make an accurate copy...?

Its basicaly a "mirror" image of the camp,and set in a quarry where as the actuall camps quary was just outside the main area,but apart from that...

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