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Polish Independence Day March in Warsaw. Is it going to be the biggest march yet?


OP Spike31 3 | 2,178
1 Nov 2018 #271
What is your problem?, you need to cleanup your own Nazi saluting Scottish unionist backyard.

So he is Scottish unionist then? And he moved to that unashamedly white unapologetically conservative Catholic Poland? That's interesting.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
1 Nov 2018 #272
There are women and young boys in the very picture YOU posted, are you blind, enlarge it it if you need .

A couple. The vast majority show young men, just like in most pictures found on Google. It's a sausage party, nothing more. Families, women and children attend alternative events that aren't dominated by people from football terraces.

you need to cleanup your own Nazi saluting Scottish unionist backyard.

Sorry, I'm a Polish citizen that pays taxes in Poland, why would I care about what happens far away?
OP Spike31 3 | 2,178
1 Nov 2018 #273
You are paying taxes in Poland. That may make you, in the eyes of a radical left, a supporter of PiS you know? I bet they are using your hard earned money for some no good purpose:

- look boss, its a tax money from that left-leaning Scottish guy living in Poznan

- cool, let's use it for promoting a traditional Catholic model of a family in our state controlled media

:-P
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,944
1 Nov 2018 #274
Epic for you - you can follow all the action from your bedroom in Chicago and not have to get cold sore feet.

Oh i wouldn't miss this event =) but thanks for the tip ill make sure to bring wool socks and kalesony

Where's the women? Where's the families? They seem to be strangely missing.

Plenty of young old women kids etc

This granny must be a nazi...
youtu.be/Z4UBVMzyw6w

youtu.be/yRBMS64yKz0

Obviously most the marchers are younger male patriots but that doesnt mean theres no kids women seniors to be seen. Thats a tired leftist lie. Almoat as bad as saying the people streaming into europe are families who will enrich europe and fill thr labor gap.
dolnoslask 6 | 3,070
1 Nov 2018 #275
Sorry, I'm a Polish citizen that pays taxes in Poland, why would I care about what happens far away?

Along with millions of other citizens who are proud of their nation and heritage and a prepared to come out in large numbers to celebrate their independence.

Remember the citizenship that was granted to you was hard won by patriotic citizens who had a spine to stand up and free their country from imperial rule.

You on the other hand appear to be a soldier of fortune, moving from one country to another for economical reasons, for some reason you appear to have a mindset to undermine your host country.

This above trait can be seen in so many other migrants that have arrived in Europe in recent times, the damage an consequences of not properly vetting potential citizens is clear for all to see.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
1 Nov 2018 #276
Along with millions of other citizens who are proud of their nation and heritage and a prepared to come out in large numbers to celebrate their independence.

I have the serious impression that you're confusing this march with many other events. They're not the same thing.

Remember the citizenship that was granted to you was hard won by patriotic citizens who had a spine to stand up and free their country from imperial rule.

Mostly it wasn't. Poland came about in 1918 because the Allies wanted it to exist and because the partitioners had collapsed, not because of Polish forces as such. Poles were fighting for Germany, for Austria-Hungary, Russia and more in WW1, didn't you know?
dolnoslask 6 | 3,070
1 Nov 2018 #277
Poles were also were also fighting for Russia and Germany In WWII, but with no real choice as in WWI.

Pilsudski took the opportunity of WWI to disarm the German,Austrian and Russian occupiers and proclaim the II Republic, but critically he held off the Bolshevik hordes who wished to be the next rulers of Poland to further their communist ambitions of world rule.

No doubt that foreign parties were involved to allow Poland to stay independent after WWI'.

I guess knowledge of Polish history was not required when you gained citizenship.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
1 Nov 2018 #278
Would that be the same Polish history in which Piłsudski led the I Brygada Legionów Polskich under the command of Austria-Hungary against Russian forces? Or the same history in which Polish forces from the Posen province took part in the Battle of the Somme against the Allied forces?

WWI is terribly complicated, but Poland owes her independence to the Allies and specifically Wilson. Don't get me wrong, I regard the Polish efforts against the Soviets to have been incredible, especially the brilliance of the Battle of Warsaw when they completely outsmarted the Soviet opposition.
OP Spike31 3 | 2,178
1 Nov 2018 #279
How leftist media and @delphiandomine sees Independence March in Poland:



And how does it really looks like:


delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
1 Nov 2018 #280
What, you're telling me that a bunch of middle aged Hungarians bussed specially in for the occasion are somehow representative of Polish independence?

That's a new one.
dolnoslask 6 | 3,070
1 Nov 2018 #281
Polish forces from the Posen province took part in the Battle of the Somme against the Allied forces?

There you have in a nutshell the difficult situation Poland was in trying the find allies to gain independence, Poland once allied itself with napoleon in the hope that the french revolution would spill over and in some way free Poland.

I find at times its tough to see Poland fighting against the allies, but that's very much to do with the brit in me, the reality for Poland was that it was surrounded by imperialists that just wanted to control and rule Poland, I guess at the time Britain would be seen as imperialists alongside Germany as nations fighting over the trough of empire.

God bless and lets remember all the souls that lost their lives in those horrendous battles, some fought for the greed of their rulers , some fought for their own freedom and nationhood.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
1 Nov 2018 #282
the reality for Poland was that it was surrounded by imperialists that just wanted to control and rule Poland

Yep, there's actually a very interesting article about the role of the Church in those times here - oko.press/niepodleglosc-dzieki-opatrznosci-i-modlitwie-kuriozalny-list-pasterski-episkopatu - they were actually supportive of the imperial powers and against the ordinary Poles, especially given that it was the time of powerful rulers.

God bless and lets remember all the souls that lost their lives in those horrendous battles

Absolutely. There's no way that we can judge them with our views today - many of them did what they thought was right, others had no choice, and I try and respect all victims of war equally. War is a pretty horrible thing, and definitely shouldn't glamourised.
dolnoslask 6 | 3,070
1 Nov 2018 #283
about the role of the Church in those times

Yep interesting along with the role of the Vatican in WWII, there is a history of rouge popes from the Borjas, to todays questionable replacement for another living pope.

As to war, well the blame for that sits with the politicians and despot leaders that threw their people into the mincer for their own gain.

Nothing changes to this day.
Crow 153 | 10,537
1 Nov 2018 #284
You need to blame The Jews.......you exposed yourself on a different thread.....I will hound you for your blatant anti semitism

I have equal respect and disrespect for Patriarch in Constantinople and to Pope in Rome. They are both spiritual children to highest Rabbi in the world.

Grandfather Svetovid is MY. See, Gavrilo Princip was loyal to him, to Serbdom and to Slavdom. Ferdinand was beast. Killer of numerous humans and animals. Very sick man. Only very sick man can kill some 250.000 animals and write of it with joy in his own diary. But, when Ferdinand insulted Svetovid, it was just too much. So Ferdinand died.
Miloslaw 13 | 4,090
1 Nov 2018 #285
More insane babbling from an antisemitic loony....
Ironside 51 | 11,337
2 Nov 2018 #286
r the same history in which Polish forces from the Posen province took part in the Battle

Dude, stop your silly rants. What Polish forces? There were no Polish forces there before 1918.

Poland came about in 1918 because the Allies wanted it to exist

No, it wasn't for the reason that Poland came to be. It had happened because the Polish people wanted to to exist and they organized themselves well and fought for it equally well.

What, you're telling me that a bunch of middle aged Hungarians

/ If you have problem with understanding his meaning in your own native language you have no business to be a teacher.
lonpol 7 | 69
2 Nov 2018 #287
How leftist media and @delphiandomine sees Independence March in Poland:

LOL.

Warning warning, mass libtard triggering in T-8

youtu.be/JlcSiW5JInU
Crow 153 | 10,537
3 Nov 2018 #289
Time is that Poland face facts. There will be Poland or there won`t be Poland. In any case time of suffering is coming. Any choice have its price.

Danger coming from the western side. Don`t worry for Russians as long as Serbia exist.
johnny reb 32 | 6,826
3 Nov 2018 #290
Time is that Poland face facts.

No Crow, it's time for you with your Russian propaganda to face the facts.
The standard of living in Russia is declining.
20% of the Russian budget goes to weapons and the army.
Reality is Russia is now in economic decline due to lower oil prices and corruption.

Danger coming from the western side.

Why, the western side is doing great, it's the eastern side that is suffering.
Do you want Poland to suffer with you ?
Just what are you wishing on Poland Crow ?
OP Spike31 3 | 2,178
3 Nov 2018 #291
20% of the Russian budget goes to weapons and the army.

Modern Russia suffers from a "former superpower syndrome". They can't accept that their role in the world has declined. And they are addicted to a powerful drug: FEAR.

As long as the world fears them they are happy. They may not eat well and live in poor conditions but they need a regular dosage of that drug.

Russia has a semi-3rd world economy and doesn't produce much more than crude mineral ore, oil, natural gas and weapons. Most of regular goods Russia imports from Europe and China.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,944
3 Nov 2018 #292
Machiavelli writes a chapter in the prince on the question is it better to be respected or feared. His conclusion - feared
Crow 153 | 10,537
3 Nov 2018 #293
.@johnny reb

True. Russia is in material sense still backward.

Just what are you wishing on Poland Crow ?

Don`t cry like old woman here. Poland have duty. Don`t you feel shame when talk to Serbian. Look how my people resist equally to Patriarch in Constantinople and to Pope in Rome. They are all Romans and we are all Sarmatians and we have Svetovid. You want eternally to live as slave to Rome, London, Paris, New York.

Slavs in Poland and Slavs in Serbia are one and same people. We are Sarmats and we know it. Then comes the Russians. They are Scythians and they are also Sarmatian brothers, too. You may think whatever you want of Russia but its again our people. Russia is full of Slavs, you know. Russians are only some of those Slavs.

What I want to tell you, if elite of Poland isn`t capable to show the way to Slavs in Poland, to Poles, Lusatians, Kashubs, Silesians, Polabians, etc, etc... Serbian elite will. We will show the way to Russia`s Slavs, too. To all Slavs (ie Sarmats).

Svetovid must win. Its clear. Any other solution is unclean and malformed.

Win, within Christianity and that is maximum of compromise. Its the only way to be independent.
OP Spike31 3 | 2,178
4 Nov 2018 #294
Only one week to go!


delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
4 Nov 2018 #295
The whole thing is turning into a PR disaster for the government. They've failed to organise any real events, no-one will come to Warsaw to meet with the government and now the media is having a field day by pointing out that plenty of undesirable people are planning on coming to Warsaw on that day.

At least Spike's given up posting pictures from other events, probably because he can't find any more images with women and children in them.
mafketis 34 | 11,606
4 Nov 2018 #296
The whole thing is turning into a PR disaster for the government

Not to mention the hastily put together last minute idea to make the 12th a free day. In principle I think it might have been a good idea had it been planned and announced a lot earlier.

PiS is just bad at the day to day business of governing (why they spend so much time trying to distract people with trivia get them riled up by nonsense controversies like reparations).
Ironside 51 | 11,337
4 Nov 2018 #297
The whole thing is turning into a PR disaster for the government.

That wasn't governmental event from its beginning. Why would you mix gov into it? My guess is you are obsessive anti-PiS. So you produce some crap.
mafketis 34 | 11,606
4 Nov 2018 #298
That wasn't governmental event from its beginning

the point is the government hasn't really organized anything instead... just bad planning, as is typical with PiS....
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
4 Nov 2018 #299
It appears that around 200m PLN has gone missing - it was earmarked for a year of events, yet nothing really happened. Textbook embezzlement, I wonder?

It's amazing that PiS didn't manage to put together a decent event. There's so many things happening all over Poland, yet it's all on local initiative and not on central government initiative. How difficult would it have been to organise a non-partisan event throughout the day in Warsaw with a large open air concert to end the day?
mafketis 34 | 11,606
4 Nov 2018 #300
How difficult would it have been to organise

To difficult for PiS....

Textbook embezzlement, I wonder?

The natural assumption.

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