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Polish Domination by Germany


OP kolej1 1 | 11
11 Dec 2011 #31
Seanus
The pressure to change from zloty to Euro(if it survives) will be soon so that domination can be complete.
Emperess Merkel has to dominate as it is the only way to keep such a diverse number of countries under her thumb.
The only difference is that the Russians used Tanks-she uses fiscal means.Which has the same outcome in the end.
So either start the German lessons or rid yourselves of Tusk.There may still be time.
pawian 173 | 13,488
11 Dec 2011 #32
A collapse of Europe's monetary union would likely lead to a breakup of the European Union as a whole, posing significant risks to the region and even raising the possibility of war in the long term, Poland's Finance Minister told CNBC late on Thursday.

A collapse of Europe's monetary union would likely lead to a breakup of the European Union as a whole, posing significant risks to the region and even raising the possibility of war in the long term, Poland's Finance Minister told CNBC late on Thursday.

A tramway pass in the center of Warsaw on June 8, 2011. Poland and Ukraine will co-host the 2012 European Football Championship.

"If the euro zone were to fall apart then it's hard to exclude the possibility of EU falling apart as well," Polish finance minister Jacek Rostowski said in an interview.

"The EU has been one of the two great pillars of European peace and security of the past 60 years," he said.

cnbc.com/id/44535393/Euro_Collapse_Could_Lead_to_War_Polish_FinMin

Another link:
news.goldseek.com/GoldForecaster/1272848400.php

What will happen to currencies if the Euro collapses?

Full Collapse

Simply put, the Eurozone would revert to what it was before the Euro existed. The European Central Bank would have to return all of its gold to the member States in proportion to their initial contributions. Their old currencies would have to be resurrected and Euro reserves converted back to the mix passed to the European Central banks from the beginning of the Eurozone.

Dollar & [or if by then the Yuan was internationalized] Yuan reserves would be built up again to replace the lost Euro reserves. The world's Foreign Exchange Markets would be in chaos. Confidence in most if not all currencies would almost disappear. By extension the ripple effect through the economies of the world and business in general, would be destructive. There would be a huge scramble for all hard assets, but particularly precious metals. Briefly the U.S. Dollar would reign as king.

sascha 1 | 826
11 Dec 2011 #33
A collapse of Europe’s monetary union would likely lead to a breakup of the European Union as a whole, posing significant risks to the region and even raising the possibility of war in the long term, Poland’s Finance Minister told CNBC late on Thursday.

according to that logic, better stick to merkozy then, right? ;)
OP kolej1 1 | 11
11 Dec 2011 #34
sascha
Do not believe everything that the Polish Minister of Finance says-he only stays to the party line.
Who is going to start a war if everyone has no money?-just scaremongering tactics.
Of course,the Turks may have a devious plan..........
Seanus 15 | 19,706
11 Dec 2011 #35
People look at mechanisms, I look at agendas. If I am to believe reputable sources, the Euro's path is predestined. Currency is set to change its form in the future. Poland, just like GB, has every right to retain its PLN.
OP kolej1 1 | 11
11 Dec 2011 #36
Seanus
You believe in astrology then-or perhaps the will of God.I doubt if anyone has a hotline to there!
I think you are rather naive if you think Merkel will let you keep the zloty-all of Greater Germany must be uniform-or else!!!
Seanus 15 | 19,706
11 Dec 2011 #37
Britain has retained the GBP so why can't Poland retain their PLN? It's not Merkel's decision!
PennBoy 76 | 2,437
11 Dec 2011 #38
Yea but Britain is and has been independent, economically doesn't need the euro or the EU. Poland is still a relatively poor country which relives heavily on foreign investment and trade, especially with EU countries. Plus I think people who are in control of the EU and it's budget (Germans) kind of put pressure on Poland and guilt to give back and be obedient for the funds it receives.
OP kolej1 1 | 11
11 Dec 2011 #39
Seanus
Britain used its veto-Poland did not-simple as that.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
11 Dec 2011 #40
Still, we are not witnessing domination here. It's as simple as that ;)
irishguy11 6 | 157
11 Dec 2011 #41
if poland opts to keep the zl, then it has more control over inflation, simple fact is that germany has nightmares about inflation and that is what it is trying to control. That is why they do not want to do eurobonds
PennBoy 76 | 2,437
11 Dec 2011 #42
The Zloty is doing good keep it. Poland's economy and prices shouldn't be affected by the situation in other countries. If Tusk will be still in power when they decide what to do, he'll most definitely be for the Euro.
sascha 1 | 826
12 Dec 2011 #43
Do not believe everything that the Polish Minister of Finance says-he only stays to the party line.

i was hypotheically saying... :)

Poland's economy and prices shouldn't be affected by the situation in other countries. If Tusk will be still in power when they decide what to do, he'll most definitely be for the Euro.

why shouldnt pl not if other countries are? that makes no sense...

Still, we are not witnessing domination here. It's as simple as that ;)

they do it the special trained way...you surely can remember...;)...middle of 20th century
Seanus 15 | 19,706
12 Dec 2011 #44
I wasn't alive then, sascha ;)
Meathead 5 | 470
12 Dec 2011 #45
The game is being played this way, Germany makes loans to countries in their trade area than they call in the loans when it is their advantage. They say either change to what we want or we will loan you no more money. THEY CONTROL THE OTHER COUNTRIES THROUGH DEBT. They won't allow the ECB to take the lead because they will lose power.

Britain has everything to lose and nothing to gain by being in the Euro zone or what ever you call it. I expect that Denmark and Sweden will follow Britains lead (if they have a half a brain).

Poland needs to learn how to be independent. The Polish elite do not represent the best interests of Poland.
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,444
12 Dec 2011 #46
versteht sich von selbst. didnt expect other outcome...consider yourself germanized/merkelized. ;)
was war so besonders in berlin? small test german. :)

I would rather be Germanized then PiS- onized- trust me. We already have a German family member married to one of my relatives, so I am taking German, because he is learning Polish -although we can speak English.

What was I doing in Berlin? Went to X-mas market, because there are none where I live.
sascha 1 | 826
12 Dec 2011 #47
I wasn't alive then, sascha ;)

good one, ha??? ;)

Britain has everything to lose and nothing to gain by being in the Euro zone or what ever you call it. I expect that Denmark and Sweden will follow Britains lead (if they have a half a brain).

yes, to be out of the game. just looking over the fence, when the others play, like an ugly kid. ;)

Poland needs to learn how to be independent. The Polish elite do not represent the best interests of Poland.

thats not only for poland true. :)

What was I doing in Berlin? Went to X-mas market, because there are none where I live.

germany esp berlin was always good for shopping. 82mill potential customers is a power....

I would rather be Germanized then PiS- onized- trust me.

you are then :)
OP kolej1 1 | 11
12 Dec 2011 #48
Still, we are not witnessing domination here. It's as simple as that ;)

Domination can be very insidious.How many Polish companies are owned,or part owned by German companies.They are in Poland now on the railways,both freight and passenger pushing PKP out of the picture a little at a time.Do they have an interest in LOT?-Maybe.The German Banks and investment companies are moving in to control the money.Where possible they take over farmland.Just think about it-they are getting into all ways of Polish life,and you do nothing.What has happened to the Polish Eagle.

So yes,I think you are slowly being dominated,but are frightened to see it!
southern 75 | 7,096
12 Dec 2011 #49
THEY CONTROL THE OTHER COUNTRIES THROUGH DEBT.

This is a by product.Germans would prefer to get their money back than exercising control.
TheOther 6 | 3,818
12 Dec 2011 #50
How many Polish companies are owned,or part owned by German companies.They are in Poland now on the railways,both freight and passenger pushing PKP out of the picture a little at a time.Do they have an interest in LOT?-Maybe.The German Banks and investment companies are moving in to control the money.

You want foreign investors, you want their money, but you don't want them to have any control over their investment? Sorry to disappoint you, but capitalism doesn't work that way.
sascha 1 | 826
12 Dec 2011 #51
This is a by product.Germans would prefer to get their money back than exercising control.

they want gewinn....now! ;)
the debts are just more time consuming and emotinal stressing...;)
Natasa 1 | 580
12 Dec 2011 #52
This is a by product.Germans would prefer to get their money back than exercising control.

They payed for more and got only oral satisfaction?
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
12 Dec 2011 #53
Well it does seem like the EU exists only to bail out these failing PIIG countries. Maybe that is why it was created in the first place? The strong takes care of the weak.
cheesymac 4 | 61
12 Dec 2011 #54
If you Poles need help just ask India... we are always happy to help.
legend 3 | 664
12 Dec 2011 #55
Sounds good to me. US economy is in a **** hole itself right now. The people (we all know who) in the Federal Reserve Bank are doing everything they can im guessing. The Feds popularity is probably at an all time low only 30-35percent of Americans see it as good. Europe needs to be Europe... its best not to copy America.

was war so besonders in berlin? small test german. :)

I would rather be Germanized then PiS- onized- trust me.

I sure as hell wouldnt.
sascha 1 | 826
13 Dec 2011 #56
Well it does seem like the EU exists only to bail out these failing PIIG countries. Maybe that is why it was created in the first place? The strong takes care of the weak.

you seem to find the connection. its kind of aquisation. the southern countries are called on the big tafel and after some time, when being in debts, the merkoyz comes to 'help'...in fact to take them over and make them dependent.

if eu falls apart, those strings stay.
Crow 139 | 8,394
15 Dec 2011 #57
Polish Domination by Germany

No. When i think, i wouldn`t call it `domination`. Its more sado, while Polish politicians performing sado-maso
TheOther 6 | 3,818
15 Dec 2011 #58
Its more sado, while Polish politicians performing sado-maso

Or is it more like this, Crow?



Crow 139 | 8,394
15 Dec 2011 #59
no. Germany is like a w****. In one moment one can feel sorry for her destine but then you found how is w**** actually calculated nymphomaniac who exactly know what she doing. In that case Poland should be seen as a man who giving its best to satisfy k***a, what is mission impossible, as we all know.
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
15 Dec 2011 #60
So it's Germany taking over countries without actually invading them. I wonder when Germany will bail out Great Britain?


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