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Crucifixes to stay in Polish schools

Olaf 6 | 955
8 Apr 2010 #361
What? You don't believe in the Sun? Hello? You see it everyday and it's there, it's proven 1000 more than existence of any of gods, and yet you don't believe in it. I must say you're quite a sceptic person :))))
George8600 10 | 632
8 Apr 2010 #362
France doesn't allow crucifixes or Stars of David to be worn in school either. It doesn't exclusively ban headscarves, but all trappings of faith in public schools.

not true I have lived in France.
pawian 222 | 24,365
17 Feb 2013 #363
Crucifixes to stay in Polish schools

Nothing has changed in 2013. Krzyże trzymają się mocno!
Warszawette - | 128
17 Feb 2013 #364
Hi George! Why are you saying things that are not true (rather normal in this site but it's getting more than annoying ...). For your info, in January 1905, France became completely secular with TOTAL separation of Church (at the time, it meant the catholic church but now it refers to all religions) and therefore religious signs are completely illegal in public buildings. In French public schools (almost all kids attend public schools), obviously there is no religion taught and catholics even have to hide the small crosses they may wear around their necks. In 2004 the "Bayrou (= François Bayrou hence minister of education and now main Centrist leader) directive reinforced the idea and obviously no kippa, headscarf or any religious style. This is so also in all public spheres; religion (only around 15% of people practice a religion) is considered in France part of the private life. If you have seen religious signs, I guarantee it wasn't in state or related public buildings since against the law.

Furthermore, there is no public funding for any religion in France. Of course, leaders of any religion have no say in public affairs.
France was the first country to become secular (laïc) and was followed by Turkey (around 1923), then by Mexico and in 1975 or 1976 Portugal.
I am French so believe me, I know the situation over there (it's been this way since January 1905 ;) "loi sur la laïcité")

PS: it's really the pits to read so much garbage in this forum and unbelievable all this obsession with France, a country that nobody in this forum knows. Please stick to Polish and Polonia's things instead of talking about what you don't know.

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