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Composer Henryk Gorecki has died.


Trevek 26 | 1,700
12 Nov 2010 #1
He was best known for his Symphony of Sorrowful Songs, which was composed in 1976 and sold more than a million copies following a 1992 re-release.

bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11741555
Seanus 15 | 19,672
12 Nov 2010 #2
That's a blow for the music scene here in Silesia. My dad tipped me off a couple of months back about him. I was just thinking about his music yesterday as it was played as the intro to another song. His magnus opus was mentioned in the BBC article and is well worth listening to. It's the kind that sticks in the head.

Nice thread, Trevek. I hope more people discover his music as it is inspiring to budding artists.
zetigrek
12 Nov 2010 #3
Such a sad loss. I have a CD with his music and even though I usually don't have much in common with classical music I really love his composes.
OP Trevek 26 | 1,700
12 Nov 2010 #4
Sadly I had not heard his music until today...
Marynka11 4 | 673
12 Nov 2010 #5
It's a sad news and a loss for Polish music scene.

May he rest in peace.
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,368
12 Nov 2010 #6
I think he is best known for this piece

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._3_(G%C3%B3recki)

RIP
Krynski - | 82
13 Nov 2010 #7
I think he is best known for this piece

Do you mean Gorecki's symphony relates to the capitulation of the Jewish ghetto inhabitants in the German-occupied Warsaw? In what way?
pgtx 29 | 3,145
13 Nov 2010 #8
@ Krynski
A solo soprano sings a different Polish text in each of the three movements. The first is a 15th-century Polish lament of Mary, mother of Jesus, the second a message written on the wall of a Gestapo cell during World War II, and the third a Silesian folk song of a mother searching for her son killed in the Silesian uprisings.[2] The first and third movements are written from the perspective of a parent who has lost a child, and the second movement from that of a child separated from a parent. The dominant themes of the symphony are motherhood and separation through war.

from Wiki
Krynski - | 82
13 Nov 2010 #9
@pgtx

Thank you for the info, but its content has already been known to me. Do you suggest the info answers my question to hague1cmaeron? How?
pgtx 29 | 3,145
13 Nov 2010 #10
Krynski
because of its climate... and he named his work... you're free to interpret it as you wish... music is awesome that way...
Bzibzioh
13 Nov 2010 #11
He was best known for his Symphony of Sorrowful Songs,

I did some translation of one of those songs for someone here not long ago.
Song Translation (Wislo Moja, Wislo Szara)
Krynski - | 82
13 Nov 2010 #12
Krynski
because of its climate... and he named his work... you're free to interpret it as you wish... music is awesome that way...

Do you mean its "climate" is that of the said capitulation? In what way? Do you mean one can interpret the title of the symphony as one wishes?
pgtx 29 | 3,145
13 Nov 2010 #13
In what way?

can you imagine what you'd feel while listening this piece without knowing the title and the story behind it?
Krynski - | 82
13 Nov 2010 #14
Do you mean whether I can imagine what I would feel if I didn't know the title and the lyrics? If yes, then my answer is: no. But why are you asking this question? By the way, if I remember it right, the first time I listened to the symphony I didn't know its title, nor could make out the lyrics.

You still haven't answered directly and pertinently my questions from my previous posts.
pgtx 29 | 3,145
13 Nov 2010 #15
Do you mean whether I can imagine what I would feel if I didn't know the title and the lyrics?

isn't it what music is all about?

If yes, then my answer is: no.

and that's great!

You still haven't answered directly and pertinently my questions from my previous posts.

who and what question?
Krynski - | 82
13 Nov 2010 #16
isn't it what music is all about?

What do you mean by the "it"? :)

and that's great!

Do you mean the fact I can't imagine what I would feel if I didn't know the title and lyrics is great? Why? You're a funny chic. :)

who and what question?

What do you mean by the "who"? What "question"? For example:

Do you mean its "climate" is that of the said capitulation? In what way?

Let me quess your Zodiac sign. Would it be Pisces?
;)
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,368
13 Nov 2010 #17
I am talking about his music, I did not make the clip you know(:

I noticed that you cut and paced the meaning behind the words for the wiki link I provided, so i guess you have the answer.
George8600 10 | 631
13 Nov 2010 #18
We had a moment of silence for him in my Polish music class today at the university. May God rest his soul.
trener zolwia 1 | 939
13 Nov 2010 #19
Composer Henryk Gorecki has died

His obit was in my local paper today.
zetigrek
13 Nov 2010 #20
I'm curious have you heard about him before?
trener zolwia 1 | 939
13 Nov 2010 #21
No, not before this thread. I don't know how big his work is here. So I was kinda surprised to see his obit show up in my local newspaper.
pgtx 29 | 3,145
13 Nov 2010 #22
Would it be Pisces?

yaaay.... too many questions... try to figure it out and get in touch with your inner self.... :)

You're a funny chic. :)

yes, i'm simply awesome...
and very humble...
Seanus 15 | 19,672
31 Dec 2010 #23
I hope his genius isn't forgotten. It hasn't even been 2 months since his death.
youtube.com/watch?v=chwDoQuD77g

lovely composition :)
Nathan 18 | 1,349
31 Dec 2010 #24
I hope his genius isn't forgotten.

If he is forgotten, he is not a genius.
OP Trevek 26 | 1,700
31 Dec 2010 #25
I don't know, I imagine there are many geniuses who are forgotten...

many we don't even know about in the general public.

I'd name a few but I can't remember their names.
Nathan 18 | 1,349
31 Dec 2010 #26
Great point, Trevek. My take on it is that if someone is considered a genius and then he is forgotten then there was no much to his/her geniusness. Many geniuses died without even been noticed and we don't know them today, because we didn't know them when they were alive. But they are not forgotten, because they were not known in the first place. But one can also say that consideration of genius fades with time as we know more and more and the genius of the previous century seems to know what a first-grader today does. And people rarely appreciate that what a genius did in his time was an unbelievable achievement. I found two beautiful phrases on genius in Wiki:

"Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see". (A. Schopenhauer)
"Great men, like great epochs, are explosive material in whom tremendous energy has been accumulated; their prerequisite has always been, historically and physiologically, that a protracted assembling, accumulating, economizing and preserving has preceded them - that there has been no explosion for a long time." (F. Nitsche)
AdamKadmon 2 | 501
31 Dec 2010 #27
I imagine there are many geniuses who are forgotten...many we don't even know about in the general public.

Chopen and Copernicus are dead, composer Henryk Gorecki has died, and I also feel just generally not good.
Des Essientes 7 | 1,288
31 Dec 2010 #28
A genius by definition has influence. An unnoticed and unknown genius would have had to have influenced people subliminally somehow.


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