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Anti-Szymborska hate content on Polish websites


gumishu 11 | 5,989
12 Feb 2012 #31
An irrelevance. Any government can nominate anyone they so choose

it was a member of the committee who have nominated Hitler from what I can gather
JonnyM 11 | 2,620
12 Feb 2012 #32
from what I can gather

And just how does 'what you can gather' about Adolf Hitler relate to Szymborska's literary prize?
gumishu 11 | 5,989
12 Feb 2012 #33
there have been plenty of controversies around literary Nobel prizes too - I can remember Dario Fo controversy, some Japanese author controversy (Kenzaburu Oe?) - from what I can gather the committee have long been left leaning
JonnyM 11 | 2,620
12 Feb 2012 #34
Now you're trying to divert the thread from the main issue - the virulent comments (mostly on-line) about a great poet.

BTW, Dario Fo and Kenzaburo Oe were both acknowledges as giants in their field.

from what I can gather the committee have long been left leaning

Perhaps most of the worlds great writers are 'left-leaning'? ;-)
gumishu 11 | 5,989
12 Feb 2012 #35
The Prize in Literature has a history of controversial awards and notorious snubs. More indisputably major authors have been ignored by the Nobel Committee than have been honored by it, including Marcel Proust, Ezra Pound, James Joyce, Vladimir Nabokov, Virginia Woolf, Jorge Luis Borges, Gertrude Stein, August Strindberg, John Updike, Arthur Miller, Yannis Ritsos, often for political or extra-literary reasons.[46] Conversely, many writers whom subsequent criticism regarded as minor, inconsequential or transitional won the prize.

the above passage is an excerpt of wikpedia entry on Nobel prize controversies

let's assume Dario Fo was not a quality author enough to be awarded the Nobel prize and was awarded on the ideological grouns by a biased committee (I am in no position to judge that just have read about controversies about his award) - if this is true there can be (are) committees who favour authors for ideological reasons and their appointments have little to do with literary valour of the works of the awarded - how on Earth you can then say that Szymborska was rightfully awarded with a reliable degree of certainty? - not to mention that literary valour is often a good deal subjective thing - now they want us to take Szymborska for some kind of authority on various things because she was awarded a Nobel prize - and people read about her autobiography and find it hardly a model for the next generations - can you see the cognitive dissonance - is someone pushing an agenda perhaps? - and like myself they can also not be moved much by her poetry - then lies and manipulations meet with anger or even hate (which is not the best thing you can wish for) - and you seem to be perplexed by the anger and by the hate
Ironside 51 | 11,338
12 Feb 2012 #36
Outside it. The thread is about Szymborska.

Why did you bring MiƂosz in then?
JonnyM 11 | 2,620
12 Feb 2012 #37
Clue: see above. Poland was very lucky to have four Nobel literature laureates in the 20th Century. The last of them has just died. I don't see any candidates on the horizon.
Ironside 51 | 11,338
12 Feb 2012 #38
Lucky ?I don't think that luck has anything to do with it. there were Plenty of extraordinary Polish writers and poets in the XX century.

I don't see any candidates on the horizon.

Hey We are only 12 years into the new century.


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