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Problem with a brutal American guy (now I live in Poland)


f stop 25 | 2,513
15 Jan 2012 #31
"The Willie Lynch Letter and the Making of a Slave" are the norm.

well, he didn't have you in chains, obviously, since you got away, so he must have had some game. If you're sure it's not just your heart and pride talking and there is something illegal going on with "innocents at risk", then you have to make a decision if you're serious about doing something about it or not. If not, which you keep saying you're moving on, then let it go. Like a said, write a story. If you do want to do something about it, you need to give up more details.

"The Willie Lynch Letter and the Making of a Slave"

You know that letter was a hoax written in 1990's, right? Was your American man black? Did he suggest you read it?
FoundBenek
15 Jan 2012 #32
I called the Police - I have the number to the detective in New Jersey who was investigating this case.
No-one has got back to me with more details, the police officer in Stamford is more than impolite and rude - treating me like "you don't come from the same rank as him" ..

As I am not a victim, in a sense, as I said - we got sort of be-friended and I felt he did want to get me into the details ( as I am a woman, I got involved into that game as a victim though ) but I DO INFORM authorities.

He knows that and I could see on his profile that he got arrested ( criminal check ) but probably got free as he got back to work...

I got away from it as on the way, I got seriously ill and he became sort of sensitive and worried .. and opened up as a human.

But I am not sure what's going on there, in the States.
Really, I can react and I will - it's good to know that others see that the same way,
thanks

No, he has never suggested ...
I've just found out he was playing the game and even tried to buffer it, yes, there is a way to get respect from him but I have my own life, too - can't concentrate only on him.

But he is very heavy on drinking and sometimes talks rubbish and I could see he was sort of "trained" to make women his or others

( it could be the group of people ) the slaves, the victims ...
No, he is white American, works as the engineer, quite intelligent and not stupid but used to get people wrong .. he likes it. For me - it's sick and brutish, as I mentioned.

Again, thank you for asking further questions and commenting - I needed a wider perspective so much.

give up more details - what do you mean ?
I only know what he told me once we met and from the emails; + abusive links and how I perceive it;

someone mentioned pride ... what do you mean ?
f stop 25 | 2,513
15 Jan 2012 #33
But he is very heavy on drinking and sometimes talks rubbish and I could see he was sort of "trained" to make women his or others ( it could be the group of people ) the slaves, the victims ...

It almost sounds like he's into dominance/submission. If so, is it just a sexual game or did his switch flipped permanently?
EM_Wave 9 | 311
15 Jan 2012 #34
Harrassment is not legal, right ? Even in the States ?

Actually, harassment in general is legal in the States.
f stop 25 | 2,513
15 Jan 2012 #35
I feel ashamed, I don't talk to anyone -just sent the letter to some Brits from the Church in London, so they know.

?? What are you ashamed about? Who sent a letter? What about?
I'm so confused..
PlasticPole 7 | 2,649
15 Jan 2012 #36
You should report the weirdo to Interpole and the FBI if he is trafficking or he will continue and there will be more victims. It's up to you to alert the authorities if you know he is doing something wrong. Just keep reporting him whenever possible and don't respond to his emails or messages. Call the police in the town he inhabits and tell them about him. Since you already did that, I just read, keep calling back until they do something.
1jola 14 | 1,879
15 Jan 2012 #37
I have a feeling however that's one of these topics that contain a lot of nonsense and the piece of information everyone is supposed to walk away from is that Jews are evil human traffickers...

Some were and are.

Read about Zwi Migdal.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zwi_Migdal

Hitler that halted Polish-Jewish girls being sold into prostitution by Polish-Jewish gangsters...for 80 years.
Midas 1 | 571
15 Jan 2012 #38
1. I really think this is, at best, some kind of a tug-of-war between a hoodie Jewish playboy and his former Polish girl-toy. At worst this is a bullshit thread or an antisemitic thread ( in the deleted parts the "victim" makes references to the guy being Jewish and even claims that's probably the reason why he'd use her is his nationality ).

If the guy is a criminal - by all means inform the Police.

If you informed them, they ran an investigation and nothing came of it then perhaps you're not the Sherlock Holmes you thought you were and it is time to let the matter go.

2.

I called the Police - I have the number to the detective in New Jersey who was investigating this case.
No-one has got back to me with more details, the police officer in Stamford is more than impolite and rude - treating me like "you don't come from the same rank as him" ..

Madam, if your spoken English is as bad as Your written one you may have misunderstood the officer.

Also, if you called for the umpteenth time asking "Is he in jail yet?" they might have gotten slightly miffed, given the whole thing feels like a domestic.

3.

But he is very heavy on drinking and sometimes talks rubbish and I could see he was sort of "trained" to make women his or others
( it could be the group of people ) the slaves, the victims ...
No, he is white American, works as the engineer, quite intelligent and not stupid but used to get people wrong .. he likes it. For me - it's sick and brutish, as I mentioned.

And based on the fact that he does drink and is "a brute" you informed the Police that he might be a human trafficker?

You're off your rocker.

4.

You should report the weirdo to Interpole and the FBI

You left out the KGB and the Somalian Warlords.

5. 1jola

One could be cynical and claim that it was Hitler that halted Polish-Jewish girls being sold into prostitution by Polish-Jewish gangsters...for 80 years.

Then that "one" would be a complete antisemite, of course, hardly worth spitting on.
1jola 14 | 1,879
15 Jan 2012 #39
Then that "one" would be a complete antisemite, of course, hardly worth spitting on.

Yes, spitting on people is not nice, but it is common in Israel.

So many Jews are spitting on Christian priests IN JERUSALEM that America's ADL has asked the Chief Rabbinate of Israel to "publicly denounce the repulsive decades-old practice by ultra-Orthodox Jews of spitting at Christian clergymen they encounter in the street."

tomstedham.blogspot.com/2011/12/jews-spitting-on-christian-priests-in.html
Midas 1 | 571
15 Jan 2012 #40
^^ Seriously, storm front, not polishforums.com.
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,443
15 Jan 2012 #41
You're off your rocker.

yep, it is the strangest thread I have seen on PF so far.
1jola 14 | 1,879
15 Jan 2012 #42
Sweetheart, on Stormfront kids talk about all Jews spitting on all goyim. On PF, you might want to ask yourself why descendants of Polish Jews choose to spit on Polish priests? Where do they learn that? In a religious school? Why does this go on for decades?

Should we spit on rabbis and call it even?

Calling people antisemites or nazis doesn't score you points, I'm afraid.
Midas 1 | 571
15 Jan 2012 #43
I'm not the only person who finds the thread odd, to say the least and I find it offensive that in the deleted part the threadstarter chose to say the guy's doing stuff because he's a Jew.

You on the other hand think it is a great time to explore various evil deeds of Jewish people.

Sorry, I refuse to be drawn into this discussion, so go sweetheart someone else.
f stop 25 | 2,513
15 Jan 2012 #44
guy's doing stuff because he's a Jew.

get over it. She brought it up to point out that she knew the relationship was going nowhere because of their religious incompatability. Don't blow it up.
Midas 1 | 571
15 Jan 2012 #45
You are smart to bow out.

I just avoid wasting my time on dumbasses, even when I relax, that's all :-)
EM_Wave 9 | 311
15 Jan 2012 #46
Midas:
I have a feeling however that's one of these topics that contain a lot of nonsense and the piece of information everyone is supposed to walk away from is that Jews are evil human traffickers...

I seem to be getting that idea too judging by the incoherent posts. It also seems to be attacking American men who are in general actually a lot more kind than Polish men and a hell of a lot more physically attractive.
f stop 25 | 2,513
15 Jan 2012 #47
I think it's a vent from a woman that was used, and discarded by some guy.
She tried hard to please him, did whatever he wanted her to do that she's ashamed of now, so she can only share in anonymous forums.

The fact that he was a Jew, or American, is incidental. It may have some reflection on her upbringing, but I don't see it as the main theme here.

And unless she's willing to give more details, her claims of white slavery might have been a bunch of football jocks passing some foolish girls around.
Midas 1 | 571
15 Jan 2012 #48
The fact that he was a Jew, or American, is incidental.

Tell you what, you go write a statement along the lines of "Since he was African-American I'm sure he was out to use me and possibly profit off me by selling me to a white slavery ring" on African-Americanforums.org and let me know how that works out for you.
f stop 25 | 2,513
15 Jan 2012 #49
Tell you what, you go write a statement along the lines

you're talking to me??
Midas 1 | 571
15 Jan 2012 #50
Of course.

I quoted you, not baby Jesus, right?
FoundBenek
15 Jan 2012 #51
Hi,
i am not commenting anything as I have just checked my e-mails - I got the next weird invitation/ follower request on Twitter, from someone called clorakalander4you - single petlovers worldwide dating side...

It's him, obsession continues. Police didn't help ..

Someone has asked me if it was a game or his switch flipped permanently; It was a game.
He can react as a normal guy; he confessed to me that "I was only pretending to be crazy to better relate with you ... ".

Mental health ward should maybe make that trick better !
f stop 25 | 2,513
15 Jan 2012 #52
I quoted you, not baby Jesus, right?

You're telling me to "write a statement"?? Looks like you should be writing them, working out your "issues". Let me know how that works out for you.

FoundBenek, looks like you're paranoid. Twitter invite? Seriously?
FoundBenek
15 Jan 2012 #53
I know this guy, he's got many issues with Holocaust etc, the events that took place in Zolynia ...
But the way he relates to me - is weird, that's it.
f stop 25 | 2,513
15 Jan 2012 #54
I know this guy, he's got many issues with Holocaust

every Jew has a problem with Holocaust... How did he relate to you, exactly?
FoundBenek
15 Jan 2012 #55
I also need to tell you that he does like the very sort american women type - it's not malicious what I am saying, this is his culture; I'he seen the photos, sort of bleach blond, models type, very tall and at least 10 years younger ..

I am a very different woman, at his age, not a model type - maybe he got the image in his head of me that he loves but this is not who I am.

So i was thinking even of meeting up with him in here, in poland and showing him what it is around, that this is not a connecticut style place, it's harsh.

He did miss me and he said - yes, I would like to visit you but because I was scared he would just take advantage of me I sad, yes, but lets make a trade - you will visit me in here and I will visit you in CT, he replied:

"Your hope of what my reality is and what my reality is, are two different things" - I felt it was true;
He may miss me but he doesn't connect to me in a normal way, I am sure he has that sort of blonde woman, affluent girl type back home. There is no place for me over there.

I feel wrong with him, at the wrong place + I have suspiciouns he is deceiving women for some reason.
That's why I don't know how to handle.
Sorry, it sounds like a tennage girl story but it is what it is.

He gets me crying and very worried.
Midas 1 | 571
15 Jan 2012 #56
every Jew has a problem with Holocaust... How did he relate to you, exactly?

Well, obviously he blamed her for the Holocaust, hence the whole mess...

This thread has seriously no value whatsoever, it is full of incoherent ramblings and accusations that, as we now know, have been investigated by the Police and no criminal behaviour was found.

Either it is one of those threads in which you're supposed to forget everything quickly and just walk away with one bit of information ( in this case that Jewish/Jewish-American guys are pure evil and involved in human trafficking ) or the girl has serious paranoia.
FoundBenek
15 Jan 2012 #57
Yes, I am full of trash.
That's what I wanted to hear at the end.
I got used to that offends.
I don't have the same opportunities in here as many western european and americans.
I wanna be left alone.

Does he have the right to tease and laugh at me because I don't have any value ?
It's gross.

Does he had the right to find the scapegoat and do whatever he wants to do because he has some issues ?
What kind of ethos, what kind of value it is ? Where is it written ? In Bible ? Show me that scripture then.

Yes, that's why i struggle to walk away from him.
Midas 1 | 571
15 Jan 2012 #58
Seriously, if these are your real issues and this thread isn't bullshit - call up a shrink and set up an appointment.
FoundBenek
15 Jan 2012 #59
I will avoid him, always.
No matter how much he is goona hurt me.
Because he is a rascal to me, scoundrel in some way - doesn't care that people get hurt, die or suffer.

The one thing that really matters is: profit.

I don't like it. I don't understand that attitude.

ok,
thanx.
I'll change it.

For whom . for him ?

Yes, I will set yp appointment for him.
Because the value he created in my life was the value sort of: in 20 years I may remember which girl I slept with, was which.

C'mon, this world is getting crazy.

Hi didn't blame for Holocaust. He wanted to tell me where the truth was and is.
This is his e-mail.

Hi, I don't have time for a full response for a few day, but quick one is that I don't hate you. I sent you the links because I think that you and all other Polish people that claim to have good intentions in their hearts should know the TRUTH.

For example, generations of Palestinians are being taught lies to encourage hatred, this is why there is so much war and hatred and suicide bombings.

If the entire educated world outside of Poland knows the truth about Poland's history, and the people born and raised in Poland don't (like you), then the future will not be better. I know Jews that went on tours in Poland THIS YEAR 2009 and 2010 and said that they were victimized by Polish people there TODAY, Polish people who think they are doing the right thing for Poland by being that way (has nothing to do with Russians or Germans). Maybe this is because the schools in Poland are not teaching the truth to the children there? This is crazy to me, it would be like not telling German kids about Hitler or not teaching USA kids about black slavery. That is why I sent you the links.

You shocked me to have not known of such events that the rest of the Western World knows all about. I know that you are an individual person, not a policy making Government. If I didn't care, I would just let you go on believing the lies that were told to you.

In my class last night we discussed London actually. We learned about the German Rocket Scientists and their projects to make rockets to hit London in WWII. Mostly studied how they coordinated the big projects to make it happen. I am glad that in the Wharf Museum in London they make plenty of mention of WWII London and all the history, I love that part about London, that it is a living and breathing historical city.
Midas 1 | 571
15 Jan 2012 #60
Wait, you're quoting personal e-mails now?

Pretty sure they weren't meant for the whole forum.

It really seems like this thread has ran its course.


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