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Chastity rings in Poland - bad news for 'dziwkarze'


Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
9 Sep 2012 #1
News website Interia is reporting that chastity rings are finally making it over to Poland. In the States 2.5 million girls are wearing them. If it catches on here in Poland, the PF's womanisers (dziwkarze) will have a harder time of it in the free shag zone.

The study, conducted by the staff of the prestigious American universities - Yale and Columbia have shown , however, that not everyone who signed the declaration , treated the commitment seriously. We found that 88 per cent . respondents (out of 12,000 teenagers between 12 and 18 years old ) began sexual intercourse before the conclusion of sacramental marriage.
Richfilth 6 | 415
9 Sep 2012 #2
These rings will have as much impact as the millions of wedding rings Polki wear already; none.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
9 Sep 2012 #3
The lecher has spoken!
WielkiPolak 58 | 1,034
14 Sep 2012 #4
It is nice that people wear it and are proud of this. Normally it is mocked if you are a virgin so it makes a nice change. I personally would not feel the need to wear one but would be pleasantly surprised if I saw people with them on. It is also good for a guy or girl [if they hold this belief] to know that another person feels the same way, so they can go talk to them, rather than find out later on during a conversation, after the initial attraction that they have completely different views on the topic.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,732
14 Sep 2012 #5
It is nice that people wear it and are proud of this.

Proud of what, lining the pockets of the companies that sell them?

There's a good reason why many UK schools banned them - they're nothing but jewellery with a clever marketing gimmick.
WielkiPolak 58 | 1,034
14 Sep 2012 #6
There's a good reason why many UK schools banned them.

But if you are going to buy jewellery anyway then you might as well buy this over others. If you don't wear jewellery of any sort then there is no need to buy this either. It is the same reason a lot of Africans wear a wrist band in the colours of their nation.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,732
14 Sep 2012 #7
But if you are going to buy jewellery anyway then you might as well buy this over others.

Why? It's more expensive than normal silver rings. If you really want to make a point, you can buy your own silver ring for half the price and not have to put up with patronising pseudo-Christian nonsense too.

It's just clever marketing to children, nothing else.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
14 Sep 2012 #8
What about talking gullible kids into self-mutilation inlcuding lip-rings, tongue-studs and penis-piercing or those numbskull tattoos. That's a clerver marketing gimmick if I ever saw one and doubly pricey. They charge through the nose to to have tatoos removed - with limited success because usually some scar or blotch remains.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,732
14 Sep 2012 #9
Know many children with pierced penii, do you?
WielkiPolak 58 | 1,034
14 Sep 2012 #10
@ delphiandomine

Anytime someone sells stuff you can say it is a marketing gimmick or that they just want to make money. I would rather see people making some money on 'moral' stuff than immoral stuff. Some stuff you have to buy, like food. If the cereal I buy is in a colourful, does it mean I fell for the marketing gimmick? Perhaps I just want some cereal and that one in the colourfull box is one that I like.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,732
14 Sep 2012 #11
Anytime someone sells stuff you can say it is a marketing gimmick or that they just want to make money.

True, but actually - one of my biggest problems is with the way that teenagers are utterly exploited by such things.

Have a read of this - talkaboutmarriage.com/family-parenting-forums/17777-any-parents-familair-silver-ring-thing-purity-ring-movement.html - it's pretty obvious from the costs that it's just a big money spinner.
WielkiPolak 58 | 1,034
14 Sep 2012 #12
Teenagers or even more so, children, are subjected to crap like this the most as they are the easiest targets, as you probably well know. It makes you angry as it is linked to Church [at least from the link you gave] and you feel the Church should not be making money on people. The problem is in most cases it is not the Church but people who go to the Church or a Church and convince them that this is a nice idea and would like to sell some of this there. I was at mass once when someone gave a talk about purity in marriage and generally about family issues. On the way out he was standing there with a table that had many copies of his book his recently wrote, that he was selling of course. I felt that was a odd, then again let's face it, this is life. I did not buy one myself but if people are so easily conned in to stuff like this then perhaps they deserve it? Children are another issue and sometimes when I see adds for toys during commercial breaks it annoys me. Anyway the same way you can buy a cross on your necklace, you can buy a purity ring. You pay money for both, as do you for a communion dress and so on. This is how life is.
TheOther 5 | 3,831
14 Sep 2012 #13
I would rather ask what it does to the kids. You raise children who believe that sex is something dirty. Back to the Middle Ages...
TheOther 5 | 3,831
14 Sep 2012 #15
I saw what happened when they introduced the "Abstinence only" nonsense in schools here.
Harry
14 Sep 2012 #16
Let me guess: increases in both teen pregnancy rates and STDs?
WielkiPolak 58 | 1,034
14 Sep 2012 #17
In fact since we are on this topic of sex being dirty or not being dirty. Ever find how if you put the word 'child' in front of it, suddenly it is awful, otherwise it is fine. If you mention a guy doing something involving whips and chains with a woman, it is okay, if he does the same with a child, it is horrific, but only temporarily, since when the child is older, she [in this example] will be allowed to engage in this type of twisted activity then. There is a wide belief that children must be protected from the evils of the world, at least until they are older. We do not care much about protecting adults from the evils of the old, and in some cases, we stop considering what is evil to children, to be evil to adults, it becomes normal.
PennBoy 76 | 2,437
14 Sep 2012 #18
Chastity rings - bad news for 'dziwkarze'

Get out of here with that garbage!! Have you heard the old saying 'You only live once' ?? People who live like that realize when they're 70, rocking on a chair with their cat, that they did nothing and had a boring life. There's nothing wrong with sleeping around. Having something new and different is exiting.
WielkiPolak 58 | 1,034
14 Sep 2012 #19
This is just where people differ. You believe you only live once and sleeping around is normal and part of life and that life is all about just having fun before you die. Others think there is more to it than that. Hey if you're not religious and do not believe in only being with one partner [as you might not] then do what you like, this does not concern you. Let's just hope that when you are in your rocking chair at the age of 70 you don't suddenly find faith and regret your 'it feels good do it' life.
Harry
14 Sep 2012 #20
Let's just hope that when you are in your rocking chair at the age of 70 you don't suddenly find faith and regret your 'it feels good do it' life.

If he does, at least he'll please the angels. Or have you forgotten that "likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repents, more than over ninety and nine just persons, who need no repentance."

Want to please heaven? Go out tonight, get drunk and get some *****.
f stop 25 | 2,513
14 Sep 2012 #21
Whether you, or anyone does or not, I classify it as private information that should remain private.
Same goes if you're gay or not. Same goes for anyone's particular bedroom behaviours.
Keep it to yourself, please.
PennBoy 76 | 2,437
14 Sep 2012 #22
This is just where people differ.

You want me to be with one woman for 40 or 50 years??? It gets boring after a few months max. When you meet a new, attractive, different girl don't you feel excitement and anticipation? Men, way more so then women, are genetically programed to sleep around. Our sole purpose on this earth is reproduction (having sex) to make as many babies ensuring that our genes will get passed on. This is so important that that is why sex gives us such euphoria....to keep doing.
Richfilth 6 | 415
14 Sep 2012 #23
What about talking gullible kids into self-mutilation inlcuding lip-rings, tongue-studs and penis-piercing or those numbskull tattoos.

There are laws in place to prevent kids getting any of those things; you need to be 18 or over to get most of that stuff.

However, there's nothing protecting children from the dogmatic brainwashing of "sin", making them feel guilty about the most natural thing in the world; sex.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
14 Sep 2012 #24
Only illicit sex is sinful and filthy.
smurf 39 | 1,981
14 Sep 2012 #25
you need to be 18 or over to get most of that stuff

no you don't, just permission from a parent or guardian.

sex is sinful

you're doin it wrong so
NorthMancPolak 4 | 648
14 Sep 2012 #26
The lecher has spoken!

And our judgemental, unforgiving "Christian" posts yet more moralising nonsense.

This is just where people differ. You believe you only live once and sleeping around is normal and part of life and that life is all about just having fun before you die. Others think there is more to it than that.

The difference is, those who sleep around tend not to force their lifestyle down the throats of those who do not share their opinions. Unlike bible-bashers like P3, who constantly refers to everyone as "heathen" etc., simply because they refuse to believe in something which no-one can prove the existence of.

He can't blame the media, either. If he doesn't like what's on TV, he knows what to do.

Know many children with pierced penii, do you?

It's always far easier for him to discuss such things than for him to criticise paedo priests. I can't think why that could be ;)

I would rather ask what it does to the kids. You raise children who believe that sex is something dirty. Back to the Middle Ages...

Religion has a lot to answer for. P3 clearly doesn't (or won't) understand that humans were having sex and giving birth long before religion or marriage were even thought of. Perhaps he thinks that everyone was a still a "subhuman" African back then, so in his opinion, they won't count as people capable of morals.

Then again, he probably thinks the world began 5773 years ago, in true clueless Pol-Am style :D
WielkiPolak 58 | 1,034
14 Sep 2012 #27
Want to please heaven? Go out tonight, get drunk and get some *****

Spoken like a true Englishman

Whether you, or anyone does or not, I classify it as private information that should remain private.

I agree. Not sure why there is this fashion in the modern world to talk about your love life in detail. Just do whatever and even if I do not agree with it, what I don't know won't hurt me, keep it to yourself you filthy filth bags!!!!

Our sole purpose on this earth is reproduction (having sex) to make as many babies ensuring that our genes will get passed on. This is so important that that is why sex gives us such euphoria....to keep doing.

You poor sap. So our sole purpose is to reproduce is it and we are genetically programmed to sleep around [by this intelligent being who is powerful enough to program us called nature, although it is not real, it is just a word used what we see around us]? So who cares how I live then, right? All that matters is reproduction right? All that matters is to produce more people so they can produce more people and so and so on until the world just explodes and then it's over. I could be a killer or do charity work in poor countries, whatever it doesn't matter. None of this makes any difference as long as I create as many people as I can? What about those people who fought for their countries and died? You know those people who had no time to go clubbing and just sleep around with various different partners because they were fighting for their countries? They did not fulfill their sole purpose? The club goers who sleep around do though, I am assuming. Oh but wait, they make sure that they do not reproduce when they enjoy themselves so they don't fulfill it either. What is the point of having families as well if we are just programmed to sleep around?

The difference is, those who sleep around tend not to force their lifestyle down the throats of those who do not share their opinions

Actually this way of life is promoted and advertised to young people. They might not say, you should live life this, but they might as well say, go and do this, it is completely normal, in the same way that a religious parent would tell their child to live in a particular way because it is normal.
jon357 63 | 14,149
14 Sep 2012 #28
I don't see those trashy rings catching on in Poland, and if any young person gets them, I doubt whether it would mean anything more than an outward show.
pawian 161 | 9,971
15 Sep 2012 #29
News website Interia is reportingthat chastity rings are finally making it over to Poland.

2.5 million American girls would equal 300 thousand Polish girls.
f stop 25 | 2,513
15 Sep 2012 #30
Just do whatever and even if I do not agree with it, what I don't know won't hurt me, keep it to yourself you filthy filth bags!!!!

lol
I think those rings might have the opposite (or maybe the desired, who knows) effect.
From personal experience: I tried, few times, to dissuade attentions of some guys by telling them that I'm celibate, and not only they did not give up the pursuit, they doubled the effort, convinced that they would be the ones to turn me around. ;)

So, if you don't want sexual attention, it's best to stay away from the subject altogether.
That's why I think those chastity rings are stupid.


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