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The age of consent in Poland is only 15


rozumiemnic 8 | 3,849
26 Oct 2017 #121
child pornography

let's not call it ' child pornography' let's call it 'images of child sex abuse'.
Paulina 12 | 2,230
26 Oct 2017 #122
I agree, roz, but that's the term that is used, so that's the word I used.
dolnoslask 6 | 3,074
26 Oct 2017 #123
This whole thread is just bad and getting worse, the mods need a black permanent delete button in this instance, yuk it will just start cropping up on search engines for all to see, all a bit like ian brady's sick fantasies, yuk yuk yuk.
jon357 69 | 18,363
26 Oct 2017 #124
This whole thread is just bad and getting worse, the mods need a black permanent delete button in this instance

Agreed. It becomes an unpleasant subject when someone is talking about how much they want to abuse 12 year olds, especially when that person has already served a jail sentence for grooming one.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,849
26 Oct 2017 #125
that's the term that is used,

not in this kind of discussion tbh , not any more.
Ironside 51 | 11,510
26 Oct 2017 #126
Im not sick

So what is wrong with you than? Nothing? Do you mean that everything would be peachy with you if not for others who are doing their best to cut you short or to provoke you?

So, my advice would be to cleanse your soul, mind, heart

Good advice, if possible he should go to church. I would bet money against peanuts he was brought up by a single mum.
Damn, I also hope that the police got his file.
jedenczlowiek
26 Oct 2017 #127
Again, so you basically disagree with the laws and think somehow in Poland cops have some right to harass me or should arrest me because I disagree with your and american aoc laws and would like to have a 16 yr old gf so even thiugh I wouldnt be breaking any laws, because you disgaree or are jelpis what I would be doing they should just arrest me anyway and make up a charge? Thats what you people think or what am I getting at? Its ok for polansk, and many other men much older who actually tooka dvantage of poor or star struck girls at 15 or 16 but somehow because you dont like me or have something against me, I should be attacked, ridiculed or cops should be watching me or arrest me for not breaking any laws but simply disagreeing with American laws?

Why do you people keep focing me to follow American laws and try to get me to get 20 or 30 yr olds, if it is legal at 15 here? why not take advantage of this at my last chance in life before I get old or start looking old? why not at leats ty as long as I find one that likes me?
jedenczlowiek
26 Oct 2017 #128
Again, are you saying you are against the polish or even european standard aoc law, are you against anyone who is over 25 being able tot wke advantage of the law, or are you people for some reasn just biased against me or cant stand me because I would if I had a chance?

Jon why are you lying or making things up? I never said anything about abusing anyone oarticularly 12 yr olds. Where in this thread did I say I want to do this? I said about 15-17 with them wanting it.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,791
26 Oct 2017 #129
You may not have trouble with the cops, but if a girls dad, brother, uncle, etc finds out that a dude whos almost 25 30 or whatever is having sex or photographing his 15-16 year old sisters/daughter/niece/etc you're going to have problems. And the police will be on his side - not yours.

There's many things that aren't illegal but are still taboo. There's plenty of weird fetish porn that isn't necessarily illegal but it certainly taboo.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,849
26 Oct 2017 #130
..or mother, sister, aunt..:)

I found some similar aged perve sending fb messages to my 14 year old girl saying shite like 'I need a hug'. After I had finished wiping the floor with him he didn't come out of his house for 6 weeks. lol.

Can we move away from this idea of women being men's property any time soon?
rozek
26 Oct 2017 #131
trust me, I actually got put in prison for fighting. I am not afraid of any brother, dad, or even ex husband or currnet husband in the cases of women goes after me. Truthfully I dont even care about this life and wouldnt even mind if somene takes it. Without risk anyway I feel empty and hate life so I dont mind fighting, any risks or even dying.

and trust me there will be no need to cop be on any side because I will not be calling them. I never called cops once even in America due to being a victim of anyone or due to fighting anyone, it was the american cowards who did that. and even if you find so eone bigger or stronger than me or someone who can beat me, it still would be worth it if I find one experience like that with a girl below 18 but above 15.

its also funny how you say this when polanskiw as having sex with 15 yr olds after his cas ein ca later in europe at the girls blessing, like kinski and her dad hwo through her at him. its also dunny how he went right into the house after having sex with the 13 yr old into the house where her mother and her mothers boyfriend were and showed them some of the pics that were part of the nude photosession yet no one beat him up lol. thats what simple people like you use for fear who have no power, oh i will beat you up lol like that would scare me or stop anyone. ive been probably in more violence due just to the fact i was in a prison not counting anything else like growing up in dàbrowa's limanowskiego, oh and it is also funny how not any of you have a problem with him for the other stuff like taking nude pics or haning out with a girl that age alone or the 15 yr olds later he had sex with, but this is all I want. I dont need sex with anyone below 15 or photograph anyone below, but somehow I am worse than a 44 yr old man at the time who did this and thst was besides focefully tsking her underwear off which ive never done to anyone or getting naked without permisison and juat jumping into a hottub with someone which again ive never done.

Or again people running that website facial abuse, not ne of them to my knowledge got beat up. moat of you and your whole societies are cowards, I dont need permission of someones family before dating them or even having a one night stand, it can happen regardless of age if you live in fewr or paranoia just stay at home all day.

"There's many things that aren't illegal but are still taboo. There's plenty of weird fetish porn that isn't necessarily illegal but it certainly taboo."

yes and unless you want to live the wife of the stephord wives or like everyone else, and let society dictate the norms and your behavior, and basically live a boring life, you and everyone who doesnt fit in the norm or follow the norm will be doing one thing or another taboo. and its not just men but plenty of women are into the taboo. Should they also be ostracised and treated like witches from the middle ages if they are like that belle girl and like rough porn, or say if they like two dicks at once? I dont care about you or your society and love the taboo, but my life wuality is much more interesting than yours anyway.
johnny reb 31 | 6,272
26 Oct 2017 #132
why not take advantage of this at my last chance in life before I get old or start looking old?

Judging by the photos you posted here you look like someone in their late 30s or early 40s who has had too much booze or drugs.

Sounds to me like you are already there Mate, game over.
moroo
26 Oct 2017 #133
Seanus, said "
Most have it at 14/15, yes. Spain is highly Catholic yet sets it at 13. Interesting! 16 is, for me, ideal"

Plenty or people on here agree with this and would also on this thread have sex with at least a 16 yr old if not in some cases lower who posted here but why do you people act I am the only one? the govt in this country agrees with it, so should you. and again, you can try to act out your own vigilanteism if the law isnt there but doesnt mean youll succeed, big chance is youll end up beat up or dead yourselves.
johnny reb 31 | 6,272
26 Oct 2017 #134
Plenty or people on here agree with this

Name three.

why do you people act I am the only one?

Because you are unless that was a trick question.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,791
26 Oct 2017 #135
Yeah or mom for that matter... You're going to get killed, or castrated if you end up going for the wrong girl and someone out of her family or friends finds out. And no one's going to be on your side then - regardless of the AOC in Poland. The low aoc isn't meant for adult men to go for young girls in modern times but rather because during the interwar years when Polish laws were being revised after the partition years people were married much earlier and women chose brides that were basically children. Also, the aoc laws set a precedent for when people in general become sexually active - i.e. a 17 year old dating a 16/15 year old is generally not a big deal but a 25, 30, 40 year old dating a 17/16/15 year old is. The aoc laws are over 80 years old in Poland and don't reflect modern society. Such practices are considered extremely taboo in modern western societies and generally connotate pedophilia. If that's your thing though go to Asia or Brazil or something where pedophilia is more accepted. Don't do it in Poland. You've already been arrested in Poland and deported from the US - I'm willing to bet the cops are monitoring your connections and just waiting for you to pull some crap like this. Even if you get away with it once or twice in Poland, it will catch back up with you and you will most likely wind up dead, tortured, castrated, or in jail where the fellow inmates will kill or tortute you as pedophiles are the most despised criminals and considered utter scum in prisons. Even rapists and murderers of women get more respect than pedophiles. and society will applaud your murderer/torturer - regardless of aoc.

Then again screw it, why stop at 15 - why not go to Nigeria or Philippines where its 11 or 12. Hey one guy tried to marry his laptop so it isn't the strangest thing out there....

Its ok for polansk,

But you're not Polanski. Once youre a famous millionaire with an army of lawyers you can have all the pu$$y you want.

Most have it at 14/15,

Yes, they're referring to high school kids... I lost my vcard around that age too. Just because high schoolers between 14, 16 17 whatever have sex with each other does not make it okay for a dude who's almost 30 to pick up, much less photograph and try to have sex, with basically children....

I called her seksi in ...later I got a text from some other person asking how old I am. and even if I did what does it matter when the aoc there is so low? I really dont get it.

And you never will get it... even after being arrested for attempting to hook up with an underage girl in the us you still don't... and yes you clearly look like an adult male. if you were maybe 17, 18 it'd be somewhat different and even then high school seniors don't date 15 year old freshman. You fail to understand that laws and social norms are often two different things - especially in this case... the AOC laws are meant oftentimes to dissuade

This is a really messed up thread. It should be closed permanently as this is just sick and disgusting.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,849
26 Oct 2017 #136
even then high school seniors don't date 15 year old freshman

no they dont. My son and his peers are aged 17/ 18/ 19 and they have nothing good to say bout one of their number who is "dating" a 15 year old.

I think the words used were 'f***ng paedophile'
ErniJeden
26 Oct 2017 #137
"Even if you get away with it once or twice in Poland, it will catch back up with you and you will most likely wind up dead, tortured, castrated, or in jail where the fellow inmates will kill or tortute you as pedophiles are the most despised criminals and considered utter scum in prisons."

Bro why do you keep talking about this. most of those people in the prisons regardless of what they were actually sent up for have raped or molested someone at least once. theya re all junkies, and junkies take advantage of people including girls who have sex for drugs. Secondly, in any given second they all would jump on a teen girl ive sene videos online documentsries of skinheads who even showed this. its all a lie bro. ive been with them. those cowards have no morality, theys tab people including their own friends and fsmily in the back. black and mexican gangs in the u.s. with your supposed morslity pimp their own kind as do cartels and amfia. thst ghetto junkie trash **** has no morslity, theya re all animals bro. I should know I lived with them.

Also you keep making physical threats at me, trust me it makes no difference what youre in there for the ani als will go after you id youre not a ju ky animal from ghetto like them regardless. the mesicans or spics are all perverts doingstime for stuff like thst or if not simply would go for a 12 yr old even against her will any chance they get yet they get left alone because white america is coward bro, they only go after their own kind. the white people in america and particularly in the jails are allr ace traitors who go after their own weak regardless of anything else than thinking they can. thats what cowards do, oick on the little kid on the block or when out umbered. youre defending a coward me tslity. I sont k ow about poland but they wouldnt put me in a jail again if i follow your aoc laws and if anyone can off me or best me up than i wouldnt mind going out like thst anyway.

I was 22 and she was some ole lady from some bar. Why do you keep tslking about you like anyone cares about you or what youve done and it doesnt person to my life at all? I am talking about me. Maybe you have no reason to want a threesome since you e had them or a younger girl since youve had them but doesnt mean everyone had your privileges groing up or had your life. plenty of people didnt bro.

"My son and his peers are aged 17/ 18/ 19 and they have nothing good to say bout one of their number who is "dating" a 15 year old."

There is no difference according to any law in any country outside a few states and they were even bringing this up or the media co tinues to do saying there was no difference with polanski at age 44 sleeping with thst girl and her having a 17 yr old boyfriend. so if you think somehow me being older despite probably a lot less esperienced than a 18-19 yr old who has sex with a 15 yr old it wouldnt be any more wrog for me thsn him be with one. in fact i would probably satisfy her better.

"And you never will get it... even after being arrested for attempting to hook up with an underage girl in the us you still don't..."

I never attempted to hook up with her whatever that is supposed to mean, she or who i thought still was she was sad and said no you dont want to talk to me anymore, i felt sad and thought she really liked me and was just meeting someone. how hard is this to explain to you. go to any mall in the u.s. particularly sacramento and youll see girls that age hooking up with black and mexican gang member so id thsts who you have no problem with and you coward white people in the u.s. only rely on cops and never have zi seen one od you even donfront them about it, than youre a race traitor simple as thst. id much rsther have my sister or daufhter date a fellow white or esp polish who is educated speaks multiple languages is in descent shape and good looking who traveled the world thsn some junky or gang spic.

by the way, even in Poland you can fuess those 15 yr old galierianki are having sex who are walking around with revealing clothes and most of those guys or a big percentage are at least in their 20s if not older than me. just like you can guess most prostitutes and porn stars before they become porn stars begin their careerd as mid teens. so all the hofwash you wrote doesnt pertsin to the real world. even id tou somehow make it happen so zi never have ses or a relationship with a teenage girl like zi never had in my life doesnt mean plenty od others guys dor egularly and will and those girls thrmselves who wlaka round with revelaing butts and suxh will look for them without your help.

"The aoc laws are over 80 years old in Poland and don't reflect modern society. "

but we are not tslking about just Poland. We are tslking about most of the world outside or America even in America in many places its lower. and youre wrong, in some eastern european cultures like even in poland when it was poor like the 90s many of 16 yr olds were marrying older guys and many do in smaller poor villages. In fact its not uncommon to see pregnant 26 yr olds in small towns in Poland.

I already posted you a pic of thst girl on facebook who is from the ghetto in warsaw, prage with history of ju i dating a dude way older than me, like 50 and no one even czres or beat him up. inf sct other legia chicks ive sent the i fo to or their pic just say to mind my business. trust me poland doesnt care about that stuff, only you and fellow westerners do particularly brits and americans.

Just look up the profile agnieszka daria mikulak. zylu wanna k ow what most other polish chicks who were part of legia said when zi asked them what they think of the couple?

"A dog will not get what a ***** doesnt give up." thats what I was told and it is so true.

"Even rapists and murderers of women get more respect than pedophiles. and society will applaud your murderer/torturer - regardless of aoc."

Again, stuff like this doesnt scare me. I really domt czre if I live or die to orrow and zi have way more reasons to kill you people, and your fellow americans than this by the way. so take that the way goud like, but if you knew my story you would know how those cowards should be dealt with so if zi didnt have what it takes to do it trust me none od those coward white people who get punked all the time by blacks who steal their women will. and go head bring it, any of you just bring it.
SigSauer 4 | 397
27 Oct 2017 #138
@ErniJeden

So a few things...

1) What is your background? You're Polish who lived in America?

2) What were you imprisoned for?

3) Why would you not just want a girlfriend, period? What is the obsession with someone between 15-18? She is suddenly not appealing if she's 19? I don't get it, but I'd like to hear your rationale here.

I'm interested to hear your answers. I have to say from what you've written so far, you sound like a danger to society. You sound mentally unstable, and I'd urge you to seek some help in order to help yourself, and to keep society safe. I am sure, as you seem to have acknowledged, you know that you're a danger to the public good, and you should probably sort that out before you see yourself incarcerated for life.
jon357 69 | 18,363
27 Oct 2017 #139
just like you can guess most prostitutes and porn stars before they become porn stars begin their careerd as mid teens

Can you? Most 'begin their careerd' through sheer desperation.

zi have way more reasons to kill you people, and your fellow americans than this by the way.

creepy

2) What were you imprisoned for?

He was imprisoned for grooming a 12 year old girl online and arranging to meet her. It was a policewoman replying to the last few messages after the child disclosed her online abuse. Reported in the media at the time.
SigSauer 4 | 397
27 Oct 2017 #140
@jon357

From the way he writes, he sounds developmentally disabled and socially&mentally regressed. I am disturbed that this guy is out among society and not permanently institutionalized, it sounds like only a matter of if and not when he seriously hurts an innocent person in society.
jon357 69 | 18,363
27 Oct 2017 #141
it sounds like only a matter of if and not when he seriously hurts an innocent person in society.

I hope he doesn't. Counselling or Cognitive Behaviour Therapy would, I suspect, benefit him well and give him a different perspective on this.

From the way he writes, he sounds developmentally disabled and socially&mentally regressed.

Socially awkward, certainly, however he does have a very good way with words (and I think a journalism degree). I suspect there's a really nice person under there waiting to come out, however that won't happen as he struggles with the aftershock (PTSD really) of being in jail and being sent from America to Poland, a country that isn't his home. That and the negative behaviour and thoughts towards underage girls, something that I suspect nobody has ever helped him deal with.

when he seriously hurts an innocent person in society

This could one day happen - a reason he would do well to address some of hgis current issues with the help of a good counsellor. Before it's too late for him and potentially for others.

He talks about underage girls being keen - teenagers are 'keen' about so many things without the wherewithal to protect themselves. That and racing hormones and risktaking behaviour. Hence most countries thinking very carefully when they choose their age of consent.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,791
27 Oct 2017 #142
Most young girls that become hos are trafficked, are addicted to hard drugs, have no family, get pimped put by their bf, or any number of reasons. Polish girls dress slutty ever since they become teens but that doesn't mean they're seeking the attention of a 30 year old guy, esp with one that has nothing to offer them aside from fulfillment of his owj perverted fantasy. They do that to attract whatever other teenage guy they have a crush on, not to attract paedos.

The few young girls that do go for old guys are generally a sugar daddy sugar baby relationship. And generally its girls that are poor and aged 17 18 20 etc... Not 15.. How are you gonna be a sugar daddy when you still rely on ur rents?

Insanity is repeating the same action expecting different results. You have repeatedly tried to hook up w a young girl only to be rejected, arrested, have other people contact you to question your age and intent, and put in jail. Yet you keep trying because an 18 yo is just simply too old for you. The young girls keep rejecting you because you're a dude in his mid late 20s walking around Warsaw with a tablet taking pictures of random teenagers and trying to hit on them.

@jon357
@SigSauer
He doesn't need counseling. He needs a dude with a hot hunting knife to castrate him. Far cheaper and more effective. People like this don't learn and despite arrests, rejection, and everyone telling him hes a sick paedo he insists he is right and there is nothing wronf with what he does. Anyone who's been in various in groups or any counselor or MD for gambling sex or drug addicts will tell you the success rate is abysmally low.

Please mods, close this disturbing thread. I don't think anyone here wants to keep this going.
LechPoznan
29 Oct 2017 #143
It is funny and sad how this topic is making you angry. You cant even talk about it without turning red yet here you are keep replying and going baxk to it and begging them to close it. Were you raped as a young boy boy old fat women or a gay or do you simply want to hide your criminality with trying to pretend your a cop or a boyscout or whatever you are trying to be. Skinhead or white people safior or what have you trying to worry about others or police others. Fact is I dont have to go below 16 but definitely if I ever have a chance to be with a 16 yr old anywhere in europe, knowing its elgal or at the very least possibly socially acceptsble as long as I domt look 40 and msot 16 yr olds could pass for 18 or 20 anyway so no one around would even know, I would jump on the chance in an instance. I would even just have a bang or one night stand with one and never call her badk just like women do to younger men. the cougar types. i would do same to ome now thwt im 33 and felt my frustrarion on life out through the sex esp if she enjoyed being dominated and many young chicks.

I know the reason you hate me and are so focused on me only in this thread. Fact is there are plenty of people who agree with me when it comes to 16 possibly people who arent speaking up on here who even agree with 15 as long as it is with a narion where the aoc is that. I remember on askmen, a very conservstive site with similar views to you cop or politician amerikkka wannabe criminal trash like the guy above me (ghetto ass skinhead wannabes who cant fight one on one with no weapons or cops invovled) and they all said there is nothing wrojg with going home with a 16 yr old a dude met at a bar there as they go to bars apparently in england at that age or start to. I remember going on a trip to Turkey on a Polish field trip when I was 22 (right before I emt that Natalka from Lubsko and right before I lost my virginity when I came baxk to the states as I didnt have sex with her but lsot it with some old lady and no my life is probably a lot more lonely and sad as yours but not everyone has the same life or privileges given or grows up the same wo I domt give a fuk what you did as a teenage boy or how many hypocryte older women you fuked while you defend horny girls who go out of their way some of them to talk to older guys or even send sexting pics over the web because they like it, and they like the attention and they simply want sex which you will refuse to aknowledge its not just teenage boys who have thst mentality but girls as well.

But back to what I was going to say, apparently I wasnt there bit a 16 yr old girl from another group from poland (plane group i was part of bus group and never met them) was getting fuked in turkey behind the counter by a dirty arab turk probably at least 20 if not more. Fact is Polish chicks are knowna ne have esp in the 90s been k own to fuk foreigners including blacks and everything in between and throw themselves at foreigners. you can be an old ugly man or perv and youll go baxk home with a polish firl or get some in the country as long as youre foreign, that stereotype is still true in certain parts of Poland. Again, go on an obuz with teenage chicks to some of these other countries if you dont think there are 16 yr old sluts thst exist in Poland who fuk older dudes or men and do it for nothing other than fun.

You are deluded and probably jelous because I have the looks to still get,it while youre a fst old looking mans tuck with some ugly ***** who cant even cook for you while she cheats you on the side. Youre just a small time criminal thug who wishes he turned to law enforcement instead of criminality thats why you kep mentioning how so few rapes and murders in your town are solved in another thread because you love cops and laws and think youre somehow superior to those other criminals because youre jsut small time and dont have their balls to pull off thst stuff like how russian mafia had women across borders theys swapped - if Polish did it it was because they were toow ewk and russians had control on the market not due to any morality, real criminals have no morality those are just white trash that act like skinheads and the like. lsoers at life.

Btw, not long Is aw on gadu gadu multiple chicks about 16 selling their own pics and cids withd escriptions such as I am perverted watch me play with a cucumber, and you can purchase it all open in poland they even havea rticles about it and galierianki. Galieriankia re little ****** in malls who fuk older dudes for clothes and perfumes. google it on onet. Most people from anywhere outside of your crap u.s. country have nothing against 16 and there is really very difference between how a 16 yr old looks or acts from an 18 yr old. even in england its legal and acceptsble as they evens ell thrm drinks and let them into clubs. Youre jsut stuck in a gay and feministcountry who now lets gays run the country where you cant go there but domt hate on someone who lives in a better country (for strsight men) thsn yours and takes advsntage if he gets a chance of this fact.

I remember when Polanski got arrested again how so many people including womenc sme out they even find nothing wrong with (as long as its not rape) consentuals ex even with 13 and up and guys of any age and I know for a fact on huffingtonpost and other blogs there are still those articles available I can find for you. Many women actually have positive things to say about their eaely experiences with sex and with older partners. almost everyone in hollywood or the model industry starts super young for instance.

By the way, I completely wgree with the polish and russian view on such things and everything thst wprost article criticising the cukture, I stand behind (that culture). I hate cops, laws politicians, moralitists, hypocryte white trash or skinheads, junkies, and a lot of people in general. But I agree that some firls love sex, are nymphs or simply like me when I discovered porn about age 14 or so love what they see and want to experience it and as long as no pregnancy occurs (older partners are better for this) its much better thsn them rleying on some virbrstors which their moms might even get them on their birthday (ive heard of stuff like this on askmen).

Poland is much more similar to russia than u.s. and it is much diff of a culture. you keep attacking me, and everything i believe but my beliefs are a lot closer to the russian and polish trasition than your brainwashed from from u.s. views. There is a reason for instance the wprost article said most people commenting online on onet.pl defended the guys who evenr wped girls who willingly went up to their places no matter what age or questioned the system. and why in the u.s. they do the opposite and in general act or write like you do. Different cultures. In russia its still even acceptable to hit women, in poland less so but when it co,es tos ex as long as its not rape than the girls sluttyness will be wuestioned not some dude having sex with a hot chick. even thst polanski girl, everyone acknoledges unless youre gay you will at least find her hot after some of those pics he took came out (google sama thangeimer pics and if you domt get a hard on youre straight gay bro).
LechPoznan
29 Oct 2017 #144
There is a reason teen porn is the maot popular and most searched probably keyword on the net.

ibb.co/maXwVm

She admitted herself (I womt tell you her age but shes below 18) she twlks to older dudes about zb or zbok or perv topics all the time, and thst she has a 21 yr old bf and her parents domt even know. Bro there are many cases where firls had their first experience young and simply hid it or were good about being wuiet because they didnt want it to end. in fact on this very forum I remember a teen girl posting she liked way older guys like as old as her dad and her username was something like Polish eauty or zpolishGirl. I also remember on imdb's lolita forum girl after girl tslkimg sbout their experiences or some how much theyd esired an older guy. it happens all the time bro just accept it. accept youll never get it and move on.
LechPoznan
29 Oct 2017 #145
ibb.co/dkZrfm

ibb.co/dUTZ0m

ibb.co/eSMnLm
LechPoznan
29 Oct 2017 #146
by the way, I am only showing a conversation with someone who herself revealed this, and you domt k ow her age and I am on a vpn in another router so you cant even prove I am the same person thst was posting in this thread ewelier. But you can wonder.
Harry
29 Oct 2017 #147
Please mods, close this disturbing thread. I don't think anyone here wants to keep this going.

It really is utterly bizarre that this thread hasn't been closed. Bizarre but not even slightly surprising.

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