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Observations and experiences so far about Polish women


Undecided 1 | 11
30 Oct 2012  #1
Several things have come to my attention about the characteristics of Polish girls. Let's start with the negatives, they are crazy which includes the following: Insanely jealous, pessimistic, short tempered, require constant attention, highly demanding, sickeningly romantic, fall in love very fast, love before sex mentality. I realize that particularly the last three characteristics could be positives for some guys but not for me!

Positives: Faithful, incredibly beautiful, guaranteed long term relationship, don't care about money, don't care about looks, strong morals and values (too strong for my Western self).

These are not just my observations from a handful of girls. They are the opinions of myself and friends living in Poland gained through dating Polish women. What do you guys and girls think? Would love to hear the opinion of Polish guys, I can imagine it is very different to that of foreign guys. I know most Polish women are more wary of foreign men. Close, way off?
Bieganski 17 | 901
30 Oct 2012  #2
I could argue that you objectifying and stereotyping Polish women is what is putting a barrier between you and a possible relationship with one.

But far be it from me to suggest that your so-called "Western" observations and understanding of the world are stunted.

So instead I recommend you remain convinced that you and you alone are correct in all that you think and do (just as you have been conditioned in life to believe) and then get the first flight out of Poland and back to wherever you came from.
BostonBill
31 Oct 2012  #3
Faithful, incredibly beautiful

Faithful, only if they can't get anyone to cheat with them!!! They are usually very concerned about money,they rarely have many values!!! They are sometimes beautiful and do like long term relationships but I suspect it's only because they get their self worth through having a man!!

British women have plenty of faults too as do us men so you pays your money and takes your pick!!!
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,445
31 Oct 2012  #4
stereotypes are not handy when dating, are they?
RevokeNice 15 | 1,860
31 Oct 2012  #5
The three dates and in isn"t true?

:)
john123 1 | 20
31 Oct 2012  #6
Very manipulative, kropka
ilmc 4 | 136
31 Oct 2012  #7
oh good this again.... a woman who falls in love too fast, is insanely jealous and is untrusting usually has self esteem issues and it has nothing to do with nationality. Maybe you're a bit of a douche bag and are hard to trust...perhaps it is you and your friends not them you already said you think it is a negative thing to value love over sex i could see it being difficult to trust someone like that and i am not polish...Women everywhere are crazy to men who don't have the care to really understand them. Lucky for you since you have such a dislike for women in poland you shouldn't have to worry so much but any of them dating you.
Meathead 5 | 470
1 Nov 2012  #8
Another thread on Polish Women, they must be absolutely mankillers. Who knew?
OP Undecided 1 | 11
1 Nov 2012  #9
Guys you misunderstand. I have no problem dating Polish women. It's easy to get a date here but it doesn't mean anything. It's just the start of an arduous intense relationship where sex and trust needs to be earned. Attraction here is the same as any other predominately white country I have lived in or visited. I am not talking about stereotypes they are first hand experiences or observations of friends again from dating.

The characteristics come up time and time again much more than countries I have lived in. Polish guys that I know that have lived abroad can attest to the incredible mood swings and jealousy fits of Polish women. I mean Polish women aren't that bad, it seems the more East you go, the crazier they get. In western Europe you have trust to begin with, here the woman are incredibly suspicious and you have to prove you're a gentleman.

Lucky for you since you have such a dislike for women in poland you shouldn't have to worry so much but any of them dating you.

Why does it get proven time and time again. Sure "bunny boilers" exist in Western Europe but they are far less common. Examples of madness: They tell you they love you after two weeks, want you to move six hours away with them after knowing them for three weeks, can split up with you because you didn't text back one evening.

That's not true at all, there are relaxed women out there that I could see myself in a long term relationship with. The women seem to rule the roost here in terms of openly admitting they are difficult and expecting men to accept it. It's so easy to get a date here probably easier than western Europe.

British women have plenty of faults too as do us men so you pays your money and takes your pick!!!

That is the complete opposite of what I have heard and experienced. Catholicism is the cancer of this country. If it didn't exist, Poland would be close to paradise.

You must be kidding?! Money has no value here for getting women. So often I see the ugliest poorest guy you can imagine with a beautiful woman, it would never happen in a million years in western Europe.

It seems in Krakow at least the worse looking you are the better. If you are good looking you get grilled. Always the same ****, you must have so many women after you, it's dangerous to have a good looking boyfriend blah blah. Seriously wtf?! Why would anyone even voice that opinion.

Of course they do, their main problem is that they are unattractive and overweight. Attractive women over there can be very stuck up compared to here anyway. On the flip side over there if you have money, it's a short cut to getting girls.
bostonbill
1 Nov 2012  #10
Of course they do, their main problem is that they are unattractive and overweight

Bit harsh, there are plenty of 'swamp donkeys' in Poland too, they just wear way more slap and you get a fright later on! Brit girls can be just as pretty and maybe a bit more natural, better to chat with too! Though Polish girls are very attentive to a man which our egos like!

So often I see the ugliest poorest guy you can imagine with a beautiful woman, it would never happen in a million years in western Europe.

Well I know more about Poles in the UK than in Poland, I can't really say much about girls in Poland except they seem to want anyone rather than no one!!!

The immigrant girls like their money though!!! They will kick sh-t out of each other for a minted bloke! Though again 'jack the ripper' seems preferable to no bloke with most Polish women! They don't seem to think about much except getting a bloke and a couple of back ups!
ilmc 4 | 136
2 Nov 2012  #11
They tell you they love you after two weeks, want you to move six hours away with them after knowing them for three weeks

do all polish women do this... can you be sure of that. I have female friends in canada of no polish decent that fall in love much too quickly and have moved in with men much too soon. This is not a polish trait alone it can be found anywhere and is usually a result of a fear of being alone or it can come with age when they feel a need to live up to societal expectations and shack up. If you try and rope women all together based on nationality you are selling yourself short. Someone special could be of any nationality bad experiences with a few shouldn't limit them from you. I have had bad experiences with a lot of men never once have i blamed it on their nationality whatever it may be.
OP Undecided 1 | 11
2 Nov 2012  #12
Brit girls can be just as pretty and maybe a bit more natural, better to chat with too!

Of course there are unattractive girls but even they have great figures. The standard overall is incredibly high here better than any other country I have visited or lived in. That's true, probably why they are content dating ugly penniless losers.
bostonbill
3 Nov 2012  #13
Of course there are unattractive girls but even they have great figures

Depends on what you call a great figure, many Polish women are almost anorexic, there's nothing wrong with some meat on the
bones! Women can be really pretty whatever their size! Many Polish women are slim but don't have nice faces, they age real quick too.

The 5 tons of slap is a turn off too. The genuinely pretty Polish girls are often overlooked.

That's true, probably why they are content dating ugly penniless losers.

No most Polish women will date anything remotely male anyway, they aren't able to cope without a man, not their fault, it's the way they have been brought up!
NewbyNew 2 | 7
4 Nov 2012  #14
It's quite standard across the world that trust and sex should be earned. Why do you think you shouldn't need to earn a person's trust? And would you really want to be with someone who gave either away too easily or quickly?? Think about it...
natasia 3 | 368
4 Nov 2012  #15
The most distinctive features that I have noticed across the board with most Polish women is that:

- They do, yes, expect to have a boyfriend/husband from 18 onwards, and do not have high expectations in terms of who they take - it is a bit like finding a partner at school - everyone has to be with someone. This is a massive difference with, e.g, British women, who have been brought up with mixed messages about relationships, compromise, perfection, and mostly what is our 'due' - a fractured culture that has bred a lot confusion, casual relationships, alcoholism and general misery until people finally work out what is important (usually in their 30s at some point), but hey, that isn't the question here ...

- They don't have a problem cooking/washing/cleaning/looking after a guy ... in fact, they are keen to have a guy on whom they can practise their female prowess in these areas, and show off to their girlfriends. It is a matter of female pride - how clean the house, how well-pressed the guy's clothes, how well-fed he is, how perfumed the lady. So totally different from 'emancipated' women who have been brought up to insist on sharing chores and beyond (to the point where the downtrodden guys usually do all the washing-up ...) and who would not dream of ironing a shirt or sheet, let alone a pair of boxers (one of my favourite occupations now, I have to say, but it took me a few years to embrace the pleasure) ...

- They generally say they would absolutely refuse to indulge in oral sex (but I have no idea whether that is just a front of modesty ... )

So you could, I suppose, translate that into they are man-grabbing, possessive, traditional, opinionated, narrow-minded, frigid mini-matriarchs (if we are talking about the ones in their 20s) ... but would that be fair, I wonder?
sobieski 107 | 2,129
4 Nov 2012  #16
love before sex mentality

I think that is a genuine recommendation.
chicagogrubas
4 Nov 2012  #17
Is that so?Explain me please what sex has to do with love as I do not see any connection.
sobieski 107 | 2,129
4 Nov 2012  #18
I might be old-fashioned but for me they are linked.
Englishman 2 | 278
4 Nov 2012  #19
Natasia wrote: 'So you could, I suppose, translate that into they are man-grabbing, possessive, traditional, opinionated, narrow-minded, frigid mini-matriarchs (if we are talking about the ones in their 20s) ... but would that be fair, I wonder?'

That's a very negative picture. A more positive way of looking at things would be to say that Polish women link love and sex more closely than, say, their British counterparts, that they are strong-minded (but also good home-makers) and that, far from being frigid, they expect lovemaking to be about receiving as well as giving.

On that basis, I think Polish women are very special, actually :-)
BostonBill
4 Nov 2012  #20
I might be old-fashioned but for me they are linked.

Well we've all done the sh-gging about bit and it's fun but sex with someone you love is amazing, so much better, I'm being a bit sentimental like but it really beats any other sex.
natasia 3 | 368
5 Nov 2012  #21
A more positive way of looking at things would be to say that Polish women link love

Yes, of course it is - what I meant was that one can take certain strong characteristics, and present them as either positive or negative - and however one does so is very subjective.

Personally I think Polish women have a lot going for them, but are a very strong type, and not to be undertaken lightly, as it were.

And as for British women not linking love and sex, not being good home-makers, and not being involved in the sack ... careful there ... I for one then presumably am not British, by that definition ... which again reminds us of the fact that all stereotyping is just that ...
4 eigner 2 | 831
5 Nov 2012  #22
Positives: Faithful, incredibly beautiful, guaranteed long term relationship, don't care about money, don't care about looks, strong morals and values

your description couldmatch any women out there and isn't typical for women of any particular nationality at all.
kaz200972 2 | 229
5 Nov 2012  #23
Difficult to assess what Polish women are really like. Most of my experiences were immigrant women living and working in Shropshire based in local factories.In the factory where I worked with many for about 5 years, they were very hard workers but lacked initiative.There were problems on a Monday morning with hangovers etc but not usually with the older women and there were problems with fighting over men ( not very attractive ones either!).On the positive side the women were cheerful and good fun, we laughed a lot and most women were fabulous bakers ( lovely cakes).Most women were able to work as a team which is important on a production line.

In my experience they were not interested in many things outside of the home or men, sometimes alcohol or make up.

They do, yes, expect to have a boyfriend/husband from 18 onwards

That sums up the attitude very succinctly, a man appeared to be more importantant than an education or anything else.
I didn't find that the women formed real friendships, the man came above all else, female 'friends' were always secondary even if the man was a very new one.

I also observed that the women would happily steal boyfriends from their 'friends' even husbands on occasion, there was no 'sisterhood' as such.
Non Polish women who dated Polish men were met with a great deal of hostility but it was okay for Polish women to date British men!

There was also a great deal of aggro if we hired black or Asian workers but that came from the men as well as the women.

Sometimes we did get ambitious, educated women working in the factory and they were real 'ladies', really nice women but not always popular with the others

but I couldn't work out why?

what I meant was that one can take certain strong characteristics, and present them as either positive or negative

Got to agree with you here, I don't know if the above experiences show positive or negative characteristcs in a woman, it depends what you want?

I have realised since reading PF that some of these characteristics are considered to be very positive by some men, especially putting a man first.

I suppose every individual values different qualities.

The genuinely pretty Polish girls are often overlooked.

Yes, girls I thought were beautiful looking were rarely the ones that the Polish women themselves rated highly.
I have visited Poland a few times and didn't find much difference but that could just reflect the families i stayed with.
Magdalena 3 | 1,837
5 Nov 2012  #24
but I couldn't work out why?

Poland is not a completely classless society. The strata might be just two or three, but the divisions cut deep. I think you can work out the conclusions here.
kaz200972 2 | 229
5 Nov 2012  #25
Poland is not a completely classless society

No it won't be anymore and I suppose under communism there was still an 'elite'.

The strata might be just two or three, but the divisions cut deep.

Obviously a lot deeper than I realised but as a Brit I tend to forget about class in connection with ex Eastern Bloc countries, my ignorance I'm afraid.

I think you can work out the conclusions here

There certainly seemed to be a lot of what I would see as 'envy'.

Just out of interest are there any good articles/books about the class system in Poland? It's not something that most of the Poles I know would discuss, politics isn't a particularly popular subject with them. I'd be really pleased if you could reccomend one or two in English or Polish. Thanks.
Magdalena 3 | 1,837
5 Nov 2012  #26
Just out of interest are there any good articles/books about the class system in Poland?

I honestly can't think of any - there are sure to be some, but I wouldn't be the best source of information here. Nevertheless, to nudge you in the right direction, the greatest and most obvious class division would be between rural vs urban dwellers, not so much between the working class and the white collars / "inteligencja" or whatever you wish to call them.
mhh
5 Nov 2012  #27
kaz200972 "Poland expert"

if you think that Polish people are not interested in politics then you know very very little about Poland and Poles.every tv news starts with politics and usually every discussion at family/friends meetings. you met a couple of Polish factory workers and you think you know everything about Poland.Most of the British ladies working in factories are not interested in anything else than X-factor and celebrities.
kaz200972 2 | 229
5 Nov 2012  #28
the greatest and most obvious class division would be between rural vs urban dwellers

Thanks for that, I will try and find out a bit more about the structure of the society

kaz200972 "Poland expert"

I think you are over reacting a little here, I said ''the Poles I know'' I didn't say Poles in general.

you met a couple of Polish factory workers

Since 2002 I have met, lived in the same area and worked with over 2000 Poles. I also know many more around the 'border areas'.
Some I mixed with socially, some I didn't.
Politics isn't something the Poles that I mix with talk about much, current affairs sometimes e.g when Kaczynski was killed,
ocassionally, the odd comment about communism. I haven't stated that Poles never talk about politics.
If you read my post again you will realise that I am not setting myself up as any kind of expert just writing about personal experiences.

I haven't made any comments about Britsh factory workers because it isn't relevant to the thread.
I have actually asked for some help in finding out about the structure of Polish society because I do understand that there are many things to learn about the country.
bostonbill1982 - | 12
7 Nov 2012  #29
Yes, girls I thought were beautiful looking were rarely the ones that the Polish women themselves rated highly.

My first serious girl friend was a polish girl. I'd been out with quite a few Polish girls before because there are lots in my area and most of the lads round here have, Roks was my first LTR though! She was gorgeous,thick black hair,brown eyes,olive skin, she never wore make up and was slim but curvy. Roks worked in one of the food factories on the estate but she was really clever and had a job in the labs, her English was brilliant and she knew everything about anything and she had good morals. Her grandparents were gypsies but had been forced to settle by the Polish government, her mum married an ordinary Polish bloke.

I never knew why but all the other Polish girls used to be really ****** about her, they called her 'gruber' and 'mooshin' and say she was ugly or not nice.

women would happily steal boyfriends

A lot of the girls would still try it on with me even though they knew I was serious about Roks, some Fen girls did too but they'd back off once you said you were with someone. I felt like they were trying to break us up,they'd say she was going with some guy or cheating, honest if she'd been shagging as many men as they claimed she'd never have been vertical!!!

Never did get to the bottom of it all,it got to Roks though, you'd have thought they'd have supported her with her being Polish. Though they used to say she wasn't a real Polish woman sometimes. Wasn't like there weren't plenty of other Boston lads to go out with, employed ones too, there's plenty of Polish men as well.

Anyway after a couple years Roks returned to Poland, she wasn't happy with how she was treated by other Poles,she's now in Australia and doing well. I still have fond memories of eating chips outside the Stump, she's still the only woman i know that can fish properly! Sometimes I wish I'd gone back to Poland with her (did visit 6 times) but careers etc... you live and learn.
OP Undecided 1 | 11
11 Nov 2012  #30
your description could match any women out there and isn't typical for women of any particular nationality at all.

It could but the chance of an ugly poor guy finding a beauty inside of Poland is slim to none. Here it is so much more common.


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