Guys who think like that have obviously a problem and it's THAT way of thinking that needs to be changed, not the women's in that regard. Women could object to this way of thinking, but given the fact that for men who think like that the step to verbal and even worse abuse is easily made, this is not an option.
Clearly, men that see women as no more than a maid and/or sex slave are living in the past, but my point was that arguing without fact, ranting and name calling are not going to change their opinions. It's like trying to convince a racist that skin colour isn't important, or questioning the existence of god to a highly religious person. Brick Wall.
Rather than trying to reason with these kinds of people, it is surely more productive to ignore them and go out and do what it is we need to do, thus proving that women are in fact equal.
The problem is the MEN who think that way, not the woman who gets involved as she most of the times only finds out later that the man she loves thinks like that. By advising women not to get involved with these men a point is missed, or actually 2 points are missed.
Surely this comes down to actually getting to know a person before you become deeply involved with them? I don't know about other people, but i'm careful not to fall for a person until i know them and their views fairly well, especially when it comes to things that are important to me such as religion, animal rights, womens rights, gender/sex issues etc.
Obviously people can lie, but upon finding out the man i love see's me as nothing more than a useful tool i'd hope that i have enough self-respect to walk away.
I have nothing against a woman who wants to stay at home and nurture her kids and wants to be a slave to a man who thinks a woman's only right is the kitchen sink ...
Please can you clarify this, do you mean that a woman that does choose to stay at home is also choosing to be a slave to her partner/husband?
you only have to look in the shelters for mistreaded women to know that the step I earlier mentioned is very real and that there is definitively sth terribly wrong with guys who think like that.
I have been a resident of one of these shelters in the past so i am more than aware that there are plenty of men that do not have respect for women - but that is not the majority of the male population and generalising men, and turning them into something we need to fight against, is one of my problems with feminism.
PS, surely you know that it's thanks to the feminists and suffragettes that women can actually go to college nowadays?
I have the utmost respect for the womens rights and liberation movements and thank them for the opportunities their campaigning has awarded me today as a woman.
I believe in equal opportunities for women, but i do not identify myself as feminist. Just the same way i believe in animal rights, but i do not identify myself as vegan or an animal activist because i do not condone some of their their methods nor do i agree with everything they say.
I am an individual and i do not need a label to believe in myself as a worthy human being.
And surely you know that feminism has, in spite of what opponents have said, NOT lead to a destabilisation of the family as cornerpiece of society?
I dont remember saying that is has. I dont think that the liberation of women has changed the traditional family structure, but i do believe modern society needs to take a step back and look at the effects of "no parent" families on children.
I do not believe a child should be raised by a child-minder, and it is sad that demanding jobs and high mortgage prices mean that often both parents must work full time. I have no preference to which parent stays at home, nor do i feel that staying at home means giving up work.
Right to vote, to work, be generally equal to men (which women truly are in my opinion) and so on...All thanks to feminism. Disregarding feminism would be like biting the hand that has fed you.
These things are thanks to the womens rights movement, which i have already stated i am truly thankful for.
Note: I don't know where you live, but if it's in Poland, I can understand that feminists still have that radical element. Poland is a very, very conservative society and when changes need to be implemented in such a society it will be very radical, confrontational at first. Later on it will subside and take its place within that society, after the changes have been made.
I'm English and i currently live in London, though i have also lived in Liverpool (my home town), Birmingham and Hereford, all of which differed socially in terms of gender roles - but then gender roles are, for me, a whole separate issue.
My future may well be in Poland, but i'm already aware of the struggles i may encounter, not just as a woman but as an individual that does not conform to societies norms (I have tattoo's, blue hair, 2 wonderful children before marriage, a partner that is not the father of my children, and a job that although home-based, often requires me to travel outside of the UK).
Change is needed almost everywhere, but that doesn't mean i have to agree with the tactics used.
Men already have all the (basic-) rights given to themselves, there is no need to fight for equal rights for them.
Not true. Men still have to fight for the right to be anything other than the socially accepted male gender role, just as women do.
Edit: Erm.. Polish men. Girls? Right. First impressions.
I can get a little carried away sometimes, sorry!
I have a feeling we're going to be moved to the off-topic section ;o)