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English women and polish man who ran off with my life savings


pauline65 1 | 1
27 Apr 2013  #1
My polish partner who I met in Krakow has just left after 5 years....

He went to Poland and never told me but that is not all..........He has my life savings in his bank.........

Everyone reading this may think how could I be such a fool...........Well we were saving to buy a property outside of London in a cheaper area so I put my savings in his bank with his savings into an ISA (interest savings account.) .

We put it there for a while to get the best interest and I trusted him because we had been together 5 years this week,

He had drinking problems and would go out drinking with friends and lose track of time and come back drunk and not remember much about the night before.

I told him he drank too much although it was mainly at weekends .He did have a scaffolding job all week so was his outlet at weekends.

I did got to Poland to meet his mother but never at their family home which I found really weird as we stayed in Krakow in cafes and bars all day talking and getting to know each other all though she could not speak English my boyfriend translated for me .

I asked my boyfriend on many occasions why I could not visit the family home and feel more comfortable and see the town he grew up in {miechow } near Krakow.

He just avoided the question and said his mums house needed work and renovation so what more could I do to get him to take me there ?

Anyway now I cant find him .his phone number don't answer and I don't know where his mum lives only the town.

Do I contact the polish police to find him and tell him i want my money back that is in his Barclays bank here in England ?

He could deny the money is mine and say he don't know anything and then what .

I feel gutted and sick that I trusted him .I don't think I will ever see him again as cant contact him....
wawa_marek 1 | 129
27 Apr 2013  #2
You'd better contact British police first and explain your problem.
OP pauline65 1 | 1
27 Apr 2013  #3
yes will do.

I think I know what they are going to say to me.

Can I prove my money was paid in there as I did not get him to write down proof on paper. Thanks for advice.

If i can find his friend in Poland he knows where his mother lives so can find him for me.
Harry
27 Apr 2013  #4
Contact UK police. I hope it works out for you.
ZIMMY 6 | 1,601
27 Apr 2013  #5
I put my savings in his bank with his savings into an ISA (interest savings account.) .

How much $$$?

He had drinking problems and would go out drinking with friends and lose track of time and come back drunk and not remember much about the night before.

He's a real catch eh? How could you resist such charm?

I don't know where his mum lives only the town.

That's good enough, don't you know his last name? Your story sounds fictitious. Your English isn't good either although you claim to live in London.
Patrycja19 63 | 2,700
27 Apr 2013  #6
I would think that if you had such funds in your own account, you should still have reciepts for them, and the day you pulled it out and you can go to the bank and ask for copies. most establishments know the patrons well, so its not like copies dont exist of your money transferring from one account to another, especially if you go to the bank you had your money in, explain the situation and get copies for proof.

I hope you catch up with him, its sad that someone can do such a thing, even when you think you know someone , you really dont know them.
peterweg 36 | 2,316
27 Apr 2013  #7
explain the situation and get copies for proof.

Proof of what? that she willingly gave him the money? If he paid it into the account there won't be proof of anything.

ISA (interest savings account.) .

No. Its an Individual Saving Account. He being the individual saving his money. Its saving for his pension, not a deposit on a house. If you transfered from your account to the ISA that would be very suspicious.

You have been taken, he must have planned this from the beginning, which IS a crime. Its fraud.

Go to the Police, your best hope is that he has done this before. The more accusers the greater the likely hood of a result.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
27 Apr 2013  #8
He had drinking problems

So you were in a relationship with an alcoholic and gave him all your savings ? Really people, start thinking.

Anyway now I cant find him

Can't you track him online ? Through FB and similar stuff ? Many people can be "googled" within seconds.
Ironside 48 | 9,721
27 Apr 2013  #9
that story do sounds fictitious.
Why make a thread in the forum if the proper course of action would be to call the police.
I think that is our usual suspect making up those topics - a troll.
Rysavy 10 | 308
28 Apr 2013  #10
That's good enough, don't you know his last name? Your story sounds fictitious

Agreed..it has too many conflicting premises.

I figured the next step would have been to ask for small "bits" of finance to cover search after the "find his friend" part.

The is part that got me! how can they find the friend ..or know their name when she doesn't know his name to find him or a cousin in a small town?

Of course it could be mostly true and his "mom " was not his mom at all (how would she know?). And he has a wife in small town... ^_^

and OP lost no money but simply wants to stalk the guy that bailed after she invested 5 years into him. ^_^

She has to know his real name ..how did she transfer the money otherwise? cash? 0_0 I wouldn't even do that with my X when we were married!
Polsyr 6 | 769
28 Apr 2013  #11
Assuming the story is "true", if all else fails, you can highlight (to the proper authorities) the fact that he has deposited undeclared income in his account (which is the money from you). Regardless of how the Police follow this case, the tax office / internal revenue service will be more aggressive and more effective in my opinion.

In this world, a financial crime (like tax evasion) no matter how small, receives more resources and stronger action than any other kind of crime, including fraud and even murder.
pam
28 Apr 2013  #12
Can't you track him online ? Through FB and similar stuff

Or try nasza klasa, it's very popular in Poland. Just type it into Google.

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i want my money back that is in his Barclays bank here in England ?

Not that it's very likely you'll see the money again, but what makes you think it's still in his account? If he's gone back to Poland and been planning this, he may have closed the account down and withdrawn the funds.

.He did have a scaffolding job all week

Not that they're obligated to tell you, but presuming he was still employed by this scaffolding company, have you contacted them to find out if he has left his job or gone for a holiday? Might give you a clue if he intends returning or not.

Presuming your story is true of course.
terri 1 | 1,621
28 Apr 2013  #13
You have NO CHANCE WHATSOEVER of recovering any money.

1. Did you have a signed contract with him when you deposited the money into his bank account, that he would be liable to return your share in case of a break up? NO

2. How can you PROVE that it was your own money? Even if you withdrew the cash from somewhere else - you cannot prove that when you paid it into his bank, it was the same money. Here, even your completed ISA or any other evidence does not PROVE that it was your money.

3. Who in their right mind, would allow such a thing to happen. He was only using you for somewhere to stay, but had his wits about him to get at your money. I bet the account was only in his name too.

4. You don't know where he lives in Poland, don't know his family - and even if you track them down, which I assume is possible - what will you do then? Ask for your money back - he will laugh at you and tell you to take him to court.

5. A good solicitor/lawyer will tell you to kiss the money goodbye and stop wasting your time on this man. Chalk it up to experience and don't do it again.
istannbullu34 1 | 104
28 Apr 2013  #14
first of all, it also sounds fictitious to me, even if it's true, you gave the money with your own will, so either you go to English, Polish police or not, there is nothing to do. There is no coerce.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
28 Apr 2013  #15
You have NO CHANCE WHATSOEVER of recovering any money.

Unless he is scared to give it back willingly. (If the whole story is true)
poland_
28 Apr 2013  #16
2. How can you PROVE that it was your own money? Even if you withdrew the cash from somewhere else - you cannot prove that when you paid it into his bank, it was the same money. Here, even your completed ISA or any other evidence does not PROVE that it was your money.

first of all, it also sounds fictitious to me, even if it's true, you gave the money with your own will, so either you go to English, Polish police or not, there is nothing to do. There is no coerce

Pauline if you have been made a transfer from your account to his with the intention of using a joint ISA, then you have acted in good faith.

1. Report the theft to your local Police, they are obliged to investigate.

2. You have his bank details so go to the bank and request a hold/stop on the account because of illegal activities. The bank will need proof there has been an illegal activity.

The bank will co-operate with you once they have been informed, they can even inform the bank in Poland if he has sent the money to Poland

If he has cleaned out the bank account in cash, you have a much more difficult case.

When you sent the money to his account what title did you give the transfer?

Did you write down loan, joint saving, ISA?
kaz200972 2 | 229
29 Apr 2013  #17
Try to get all your documents together and if you have evidence that you put money into the ISA take it to rthe bank and the police, there probably isn't much they can do but it will forewarn them if he tries it again.

NEVER TRUST SOMEONE WITH ADDICTIONS.
ALWAYS KEEP YOUR MONEY SEPARATE FROM YOUR PARTNERS, NEVER HAVE JOINT ACCOUNTS.
If you need to buy something together e.g a house make sure that it's in joint names and no one can do anything without your consent and you being present at the deal or transaction!
poland_
29 Apr 2013  #18
Try to get all your documents together and if you have evidence that you put money into the ISA take it to rthe bank and the police, there probably isn't much they can do but it will forewarn them if he tries it again.

There is a lot the OP can do.

Banks are obliged to co-operate and investigate illegal financial activities. If a person takes their partners money for a joint investment and then runs off with the proceeds, I am 99.9% sure that constitutes a financial crime in the UK.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,671
29 Apr 2013  #19
not really as if someone puts their money willingly into someone else's name or account then where is the crime?
poland_
29 Apr 2013  #20
Read below:

He went to Poland and never told me but that is not all..........He has my life savings in his bank.........

When "pauline65" started the thread she was already aware of her foolishness, so why bang on about it Roz?

Financial misrepresentation is a crime, by taking pauline65 money and informing her it was going into an ISA, then running off with her life savings he has deceived her. The law takes deception very seriously. The fact he has taken her money and not informed her of a forwarding address or contact details does not look good in his favour.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,671
29 Apr 2013  #21
so why bang on about it Roz?

i am not "banging on" about anything, that was the first time i posted, just questioning the previous post. Sorry I thought the whole point of a forum was questioning and discussion?

I would certainly not wish to insult the OP, this kind of thing could so easily happen to any of us.
kaz200972 2 | 229
29 Apr 2013  #22
Banks are obliged to co-operate and investigate illegal financial activities. If a person takes their partners money for a joint investment and then runs off with the proceeds, I am 99.9% sure that constitutes a financial crime in the UK.

not really as if someone puts their money willingly into someone else's name or account then where is the crime?

Both the bank and the Police are obliged to investigate the matter but getting the CPS to allow charges to be brought is a different matter! proving intent to defraud is virtually impossible if the lady willingly agreed to put the money into the guy's account, he could argue it was money owed to him, that she told him to keep it or any other story. Appalling situation but regrettably it happens all too often to both women and men

IMO children should be taught about financial safety and how to avoid fraud right from school age. Best piece of financial advice my Mum ever gave me was to keep my finances separate from a husband or partner!


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