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Poles - what other nationality would you say you are most like?


Torq
1 Oct 2010 #61
Hey - I'd say those explosives in railway tunnels were pretty pragmatic! ;)

Besides, we have an official Hungarian-Polish friendship day, established by parliaments
of both countries. The day is celebrated in both Poland and Hungary on 23rd March.

Is there a similar day for German-Hungarian friendship? Is there? IS THERE?

Polak, Węgier, dwa bratanki, i do szabli, i do szklanki!
Lengyel, magyar - két jó barát, együtt harcol, s issza borát


Magyar Lengyel
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,525
1 Oct 2010 #62
Sorry, BB, you can't have Hungarians - they're ours.

But...but...but...I WANT THE HUNGIS...*stomps foot*You can have the Czechs!!!!
Paulina 10 | 1,855
1 Oct 2010 #63
LOL

It reminds of Polish-Russian love for Ukraine ;D
"We like it more!"
"No, we like it more!!"
"We are brothers!"
"You enslaved them and killed them!"
"No, you enslaved them and killed them!!"
"You wanted to turn them into Poles!"
"No, you wanted to turn them into Russians!"
"Ukraine will be better off with Russia!"
"Ukraine will be better off with the EU!"
"Eastern Ukraine is better!"
"Western Ukraine is better!"
"Arrrghh!!"
"Rrrrrrrr!!"
"&#!!*%$!!!"
"#&!%!*!!!!"

Sometimes I have an impression that both like it so much that they will torn it in two ;P

And Ukrainians and Hungarians probably don't even know that we fight over them ;D

*you can have the Czechs though*

You can have the Czechs!!!!

Poor Czechs, nobody wants them :(
Nathan 18 | 1,363
1 Oct 2010 #64
And Ukrainians and Hungarians probably don't even know that we fight over them ;D

We do - we just don't give a cr*p as long as while crossing the border you pay a toll, visit our country as decent tourists and spend money on multitude of souvenirs. In your own countries you may fight your pants off for your dreams - nobody here cares :)
Paulina 10 | 1,855
1 Oct 2010 #65
we just don't give a cr*p (...) nobody here cares :)

I thought so ;)
Des Essientes 7 | 1,291
1 Oct 2010 #66
Czesłąw Miłosz wrote in he 1980's that the Hungarians and the Serbs are the only two nationalities that Poles have unbounded friendship for. The Hungarians and the Poles were the two nations in Europe with the highest percentage of nobility amongst their populace, around 10%. But of course linguistically and culturally, despite a certain amount of Germanization, the Hungarians are not Indo-Europeans at all but rather but Finno-Ugrians whose ancestors hail from Central Asia.

Despite the popularity of French-bashing amongst the troglodytic types in this forum we must admit that, given the Polish love of freedom, art, high culture and stylishness, the Poles are as Nietzsche said: The French among the Slavs.
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,525
1 Oct 2010 #67
Nietzsche said: The French among the Slavs.

Ach...Nietzsche doesn't count...he was a Pole himself with serious identity problems!

Poles are Poles and French are French!

(andHungariansareGermans)

*runs*
sascha 1 | 826
1 Oct 2010 #68
the Poles are as Nietzsche said: The French among the Slavs

What makes you think that? Explain please.

Because Polish like Vodka as the equivalent to Pastis?

Serbs have their Slibovic. ;-)
southern 75 | 7,096
1 Oct 2010 #69
It seems Czechs have different character and mentality... We like them, but... Poles drink vodka and Czechs drink beer, you know xD

What do the Hungarians drink?Anyway the Czechs are dangerously inclined to germanization.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
1 Oct 2010 #70
Hungarians? Poorish beer. I didn't notice any special drinks when I was there but I know sb who has just moved there.
southern 75 | 7,096
1 Oct 2010 #71
Hungarians do not look Slavic.I would call them gothic.Some Goths who were left there mixed with Hunns and Magyars.As for mentality it is close to turkish.(deceiving).
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,525
1 Oct 2010 #72
I would call them gothic.Some Goths who were left there mixed with Hunns and Magyars.

*nods*

Goths...a famous germanic tribe! See? ;)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goths
Seanus 15 | 19,706
1 Oct 2010 #73
Czechs and Hungarians have distinctive Germanic elements but Czechs have more in common with Poles than Germans.
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,525
1 Oct 2010 #74
but Czechs have more in common with Poles than Germans.

What exactly?
Seanus 15 | 19,706
1 Oct 2010 #75
Language, primarily. I don't think Czech is that difficult as a language.
Torq
1 Oct 2010 #76
(andHungariansareGermans)

MoreLikelyaLostTribeofPoles
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,525
1 Oct 2010 #77
Language, primarily. I don't think Czech is that difficult as a language.

Bohemia and Moravia...part of the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation for centuries, then Austria, then part of Austria-Hungary..you come far with German too...

MoreLikelyaLostTribeofPoles

*adores picture*

We should play it out...on the battlef...erm football field! :):):)
Torq
1 Oct 2010 #78
We should play it out...on the battlef...erm football field! :)

Agreed, if we change the football field to a speedway track :)
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,525
1 Oct 2010 #79
*goes looking if speedway exist in Germany at all*
Torq
1 Oct 2010 #80
Yeah - as if football existed in Poland! *rolls eyes*
southern 75 | 7,096
1 Oct 2010 #81
Czechs have more in common with Poles than Germans.

Facially Czechs are very close to Poles and Slavic mentality is rampant in CR.However they strive to be like Germans and use obviously Germanic ways,it is not the first time they do this.Now towns in CR do not look different from towns in eastern Germany.

Hungarians on the other hand look more like Germans in face than Czechs do but their mentality is far from German,they always try to steal,they are not honest and probably that's why their economy is much worse than the czech one.( really no comparison I was in Budapest and CR this July).
Des Essientes 7 | 1,291
1 Oct 2010 #82
What makes you think that? Explain please.

Because Polish like Vodka as the equivalent to Pastis?

If you'd read my post more closely you'd see I explained that the Polish/French affinity rests upon a love of political freedom, art, and stylishness in general. Trying to understand cultures solely in terms of alcoholic beverages is very superficial. Since literary comparisons would be wasted upon the likes of you let me point to a more popular medium, the cinema. Polish movies like Ashes And Diamonds and The Saragossa Manuscript stand up well next to the best French New Wave films, and imagining that any of the less sophisticated European peoples could make such films is laughable.

Ach...Nietzsche doesn't count...he was a Pole himself with serious identity problems!

There was a family tradition amongst the Nietzsche's which claimed Polish ancestry. Friedrich's father actually had the family registered as non-German with the Prussian authorities. However Nietzsche is not a Polish name but a German one which is somewhat common in the Eastern part of Germany, despite this we can say that Nietzsche's philosophy is a thundering affirmation of Sarmatism, and he was indeed Polish in spirit.
Torq
1 Oct 2010 #83
they always try to steal,they are not honest and probably that's why their economy
is much worse than the czech one

A German, trying to convince everybody that Magyars are in fact Germanic - funny.
A Frenchman, calling Poles "the French among the Slavs" - mildly amusing.

...

A Greek, lecturing people on dishonesty, stealing and economy - PRICELESS :-)

Trying to understand cultures solely in terms of alcoholic beverages is very superficial.

Golden Thought of the Week ;)
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,525
1 Oct 2010 #84
However Nietzsche is not a Polish name but a German one which is somewhat common in the Eastern part of Germany, despite this we can say that Nietzsche's philosophy is a thundering affirmation of Sarmatism, and he was indeed Polish in spirit.

What I said...serious identity problems!

Golden Thought of the Week ;)

Good to be back at PF, right Torqi? Admit you missed our intelligent discussions!
zetigrek
1 Oct 2010 #85
Can we end that pointless disccussion?
Torq
1 Oct 2010 #86
Admit you missed our intelligent discussions!

I admit I missed our discussions!

*notice how I omitted the adjective ;)*

Can we end that pointless disccussion?

As soon as everyone agrees that Poles and Hungarians are practically identical and that
our unique brotherhood will last forever and be admired and envied by other European
nations *coughGermanscough*.
Natasa 1 | 580
1 Oct 2010 #87
A Greek, lecturing people on dishonesty, stealing and economy - PRICELESS :-)

Torq were you ever in Greece?
You are showing now that you don't have a problem to believe in simplest and dumbest stereotype about Greeks there is.

Macro level, economy
Think.
Who are the biggest thieves on this planet?

Micro level, honesty and stealing
I would advice you to question your prejudices using contact and experience with greek ppl.
They are really nice and honest.
At least those I had a pleasure to meet during a month I spent there.
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,525
1 Oct 2010 #88
Well...who got into the EU because of lying? Whose economy is now dust because of lying, thieving, betraying, being all around unlawful and ineffective?

More than only stereotypes me thinks...

And you Missy are one to complain about stereotypes...your prejudices and judgement about Germans and Germany shows the worst of it more often than not in your postings!
Torq
1 Oct 2010 #89
Torq were you ever in Greece?
You are showing now that you don't have a problem to believe in simplest and dumbest stereotype about Greeks there is.

Take it easy, Natasa. I was just giving Southern some taste of his own medicine
(read what he wrote about Hungarians and tell me those weren't dumb stereotypes.)

They are really nice and honest.

No doubt there are nice and honest Greeks and also not too honest and not too nice ones
(just like in any other nation in the world).

Having said that... if they're so honest, then how come their farmers used to take
EU subsidies for more farming lands than the entire area of Greece? :)
sascha 1 | 826
1 Oct 2010 #90
Trying to understand cultures solely in terms of alcoholic beverages is very superficial.

That was a joke. Sorry you did not understand it;-)

A parallel is anyhow that in many ways(if the amount is not too excessive) the beverage and the life style surrounding it is a sign or level of their people hedonism. That's the reason I mentioned it;-)

Whose economy is now dust because of lying, thieving, betraying, being all around unlawful and ineffective?
More than only stereotypes me thinks...

Germans have more than dirty hands in Greece in the very recent past. Don't forget Mercedes Benz and Deutsche Telekom and their recent bribery scandals there ;-)


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