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Are Poles Dis-Loyal


alexw68
3 Feb 2011 #31
MY EXPERIENCE OF POLES IN IRELAND IS THAT THEY WILL DO ANYTHING FOR MORE MONEY AND WILL EVEN KILL THEIR OWN PEOPLE.

You wanna go easy on the caps, Mate.

Makes you sound like a tub-thumping self-righteous egomaniac.

Or, for that matter, a lawyer. Go figure.
Wroclaw Boy
3 Feb 2011 #32
Okay, the trolls can be poors, but, their locations and their families aren't really poors.

The trolls were mostly Brits, on here to hammer the Poles at any opportunity they got, we had a particularly nasty Scott and an Irish man.

Threads like "Poles fcuk off back to your own country" and "Poles sleeping in toilets to save money" were an everyday occurrence. The trolls weren't even trolls really they were just British nationals annoyed at being undercut by cheap foreign labor.

I didn't blame them, never have. When was the last time we had these types of posts/threads on here? Britain has indeed put up and shut up - again.
isthatu2 4 | 2,694
3 Feb 2011 #33
Makes you sound like a tub-thumping self-righteous egomaniac.

Or, for that matter, a lawyer. Go figure.

Best line today by far !! :)

Funnily enough it seemed to quieten down a bit after the recession.

Its seem's that way on the ground here too, people have got a Tory government to grumble about now I suppose so "immigrents" are far lower down the topic list.

Those who posted anti-Polish posts in the past you mentioned were trolls like spoiled kids who felt the pain when they interacted with the real poors in their locations.

Rubbish fella. Sure,a lot were just bigot trolls but a lot of people had fair points...In less than a year 20,000 working age people extra in one town with an already strained jobs market is enough to get anyone a little wound up.
alexw68
3 Feb 2011 #34
Best line today by far !! :)

Thanks. Available for weddings, bar mitzvahs etc at competitive rates :)
NomadatNet 1 | 457
3 Feb 2011 #35
The trolls weren't even trolls really they were just British nationals annoyed at being undercut by cheap foreign labor.

They were annoyed at Poles? No, they showed their annoyance and angers to Poles cause it is easy to do that to silent calm people like Poles. Other groups from other countries were there already in Britain long time ago and those other groups had their Harlems. Britain economy started to go down before Poles started to move there. I worked with some British companies, also with a top company or two. I was helping them to locate manufacturers here to make productions on their behalfs. They were looking for lower cost manufacturers. I don't know what happened later. Perhaps, they started to work with Chinese companies. So, Britain economy going down started before Poles started to move there. Poles who had not foreseen this had done a mistake by moving there and it was a bad timing as they faced Brits who started to annoy already.
isthatu2 4 | 2,694
3 Feb 2011 #36
Seriously,normannomates
You really know nothing about Britain,why do you keep on making yourself look silly?
"Other groups were there..." Yes,but no single group had ever come to Britain in such large numbers in such a short space of time since the Roman Invasion.....
Wroclaw Boy
3 Feb 2011 #37
they showed their annoyance and angers to Poles cause it is easy to do that to silent calm people like Poles.

It was more associated with the sheer number that came more than anything else.

Britain economy started to go down before Poles started to move there.

05/06? no not really, it was booming then.

Poles who had not foreseen this had done a mistake by moving there and it was a bad timing as they faced Brits who started to annoy already.

I dont seen how you can call it a mistake, many of them are very successful, jeeze ive seen dudes that used to be drug addicts in Poland driving around small towns in UK registered Porches. Every year the UK reg cars in Poland around the holidays get better and better, theyre all driven by Poles that the UK has provided for.
isthatu2 4 | 2,694
3 Feb 2011 #38
many of them are very successful

Exactly,in 05 there were 04 arrival Poles in manegment posts at the job I was in back then.
The "Polish toilet cleaner" is a myth,the only people doing those sort of jobs were people who would have been doing just the same back home.
NomadatNet 1 | 457
3 Feb 2011 #39
In last decade, between 2000-2010, booming in economies there was a fake or artificial ones as it was due to war economy, propaganda economy, financial economy for keeping the morals there high. Real falls down in Western economy started with the collapse of Soviet Union (SU), late 80s, the enemy of Western wild capitalism. Economy of the West was being fed by the existence of a visible enemy, SU and this had driven weapon industry in the West as well as its side industries. When the enemy is gone (thank to yourselves too!), globalization efforts of capitalism started and the jobs and works moved to places like China. This was before 2000, before Poles started to move there.

Big number of Poles moving to Britain wouldn't be a serious problem if Britain economy were really good and if they had seen Britain economy during Gulf war periods in this decade was just a propaganda economy. With the gulf wars, Britain citizens were already starting to show their angers sourced by economical problems and this economy problem was covered by anti-muslim propagands, etc.

Of course, there will be some Poles, besides Brits or any others, who will be rich people in Britain, but, they will be a few minority as it is due to the nature of capitalism.
BBman - | 344
3 Feb 2011 #40
Poles who ran away to another country

You sound jealous, lonely limey.

Jealous of Poles who left Poland, made better lives for themselves than they could anywhere in Europe, and still had enough money to help their families back home survive through the ****** 80s/early 90s. Despite the thousands of kilometres that separate these families, these migrant Poles still visit their families back in Poland, even if just for 2 weeks at a time.

"konwersacje"

I pitty those who go to Poland (or anywhere really) to teach English. It makes me think that 99% of these "teachers" should have studied something more useful in university.

Bored, correct. Not much else to do when stuck at home with a throat infection, really.

Hahah excuses, excuses. Just a quick look at your post history reveals that you have no social life (cyberspace socialising does not count). On the upside, I bet you are a great esl instructor.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
3 Feb 2011 #41
You sound jealous, lonely limey.

Lonely? Sounds like someone is talking from experience. I suppose it must be a rather lonely existence when everyone in your host country regards you as inferior, huh?

Jealous of Poles who left Poland, made better lives for themselves than they could anywhere in Europe, and still had enough money to help their families back home survive through the ****** 80s/early 90s. Despite the thousands of kilometres that separate these families, these migrant Poles still visit their families back in Poland, even if just for 2 weeks at a time.

Ah, that old "WE HELPED POLAND" nonsense. Nah mate - the ones who helped Poland were the ones who stayed and built a better future, not those condescending idiots who like nothing more than to look down at their cousins back home.

Sending a few presents and visiting for two weeks does nothing to help Poland. Then again, those traitors (let's be honest, they all swore allegiance to foreign powers anyway) are all cowards anyway. Anyone who ran away in the 80's/90's because it was "too tough" is quite frankly a coward.

I pitty those who go to Poland (or anywhere really) to teach English. It makes me think that 99% of these "teachers" should have studied something more useful in university.

I pity those cowards who ran away from their country and swore allegiance to foreign powers, personally. I can't imagine ever betraying my homeland in such a way.

Hahah excuses, excuses. Just a quick look at your post history reveals that you have no social life (cyberspace socialising does not count). On the upside, I bet you are a great esl instructor.

Someone who bothers to check "post histories" is clearly the one without a social life ;) Mine is just fine, thanks - then again, I'm not looked at as some traitorous peasant in this country ;)

(now, get back to cleaning toilets)
Lenka 5 | 3,447
3 Feb 2011 #42
I pity those cowards who ran away from their country and swore allegiance to foreign powers, personally. I can't imagine ever betraying my homeland in such a way.

If you think that not living in your country is betrayal than...I just think you have very narrow understanding of the word patriot.It's nothing bad(many ppl does) but I think it's not that easy.

Sending a few presents and visiting for two weeks does nothing to help Poland.

You're wrong-this things helped some ppl to survive.And sending money to Poland helped our economy.These money were spend in Poland and helped Polish companies.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
3 Feb 2011 #43
If you think that not living in your country is betrayal than...I just think you have very narrow understanding of the word patriot.It's nothing bad(many ppl does) but I think it's not that easy.

I think swearing allegiance to a foreign power does amount to betrayal. Living elsewhere - no problem. But when you pledge allegiance to a foreign power...well.

You're wrong-this things helped some ppl to survive.And sending money to Poland helped our economy.These money were spend in Poland and helped Polish companies.

And this is why sadly wjhy many of those peasant rednecks that moved to North America now look down on people here. I've noticed time and time again - people seem to think that Poland owes them something because they sent a few dollars over here.
Lenka 5 | 3,447
3 Feb 2011 #44
I think swearing allegiance to a foreign power does amount to betrayal. Living elsewhere - no problem. But when you pledge allegiance to a foreign power...well. Lenka:

But sometimes it was the only way to stay alive.Maybe it's not very honorable but I can understand it.

And this is why sadly wjhy many of those peasant rednecks that moved to North America now look down on people here. I've noticed time and time again - people seem to think that Poland owes them something because they sent a few dollars over here.

They helped but if they think they are better just because of that then they are just idiots and we shouldn't care.
Ogien 5 | 241
3 Feb 2011 #45
So British men don't go to night clubs for a one night stand? I find that hard to believe...
dtaylor5632 18 | 2,004
3 Feb 2011 #46
Me too, kinda beats the point of going out to a club.
grubas 12 | 1,384
3 Feb 2011 #47
yes,the 20th century

So now they are a large strategically located country,with population of 40 milions,with plenty of natural resources and don't live off the money sent by Irish immigrants but British tax payers?Holly fuk the world is changing.

On a serious note if not EU and Americans Irish hillbillies would be still living like in XIX century.
Teffle 22 | 1,321
3 Feb 2011 #48
So now they are a large strategically located country,with population of 40 milions

LOL

Ooooooh Poland is soooo big and populous - what fukking age are you?

You really are pretty primitive aren't you?
Ironside 53 | 12,413
4 Feb 2011 #49
I didn't blame them, never have.

What do you mean by that?
Wroclaw Boy
4 Feb 2011 #50
If you read the post isn't it obvious?

Here's an analogy to help you.

Lets say youre freelancing in IT earning 60,000 PLN / year, then a few hundred thousand Chinese come along and work for less at 40,000 PLN a year, then all of a sudden youre told you need to take a 15,000 PLN pay cut a year otherwise find another employer. Dont forget youve lived in Poland all your life and have a large mortgage and an expensive car to run as well as a family.

In UK term's you are the carpenter, plumber, brick layer and the Chinese guy is the Pole.

With all due respect how the fcuk would you feel?
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,368
4 Feb 2011 #51
MY EXPERIENCE OF POLES IN IRELAND IS THAT THEY WILL DO ANYTHING FOR MORE MONEY AND WILL EVEN KILL THEIR OWN PEOPLE.

EVERY WEEK THERE IS A STORY OF POLISH STABBING OR RAPING THEIR OWN CREED AFTER A NIGHT OF DRINKING. I'M A LAWYER SO IT KEEPS ME IN BUSINESS lol! BUT NOT SO GOOD FOR IRELAND :(

If this is indeed the representation of the average Irish lawyer, from a presumably middle class background, I would be worried.
Teffle 22 | 1,321
4 Feb 2011 #52
If this is indeed the representation of the average Irish lawyer

Well now, what would be your wild guess as to the veracity of his claims - both of profession and of nationality for that matter?

His username and use of language is a bit of a giveaway.
isthatu2 4 | 2,694
4 Feb 2011 #53
Yep,no offence to my Irish cousins,but "creed",really? :)
Ironside 53 | 12,413
4 Feb 2011 #54
With all due respect how the fcuk would you feel?

Well, its not about feelings but about addressee of their grievances and misgivings.
grubas 12 | 1,384
4 Feb 2011 #55
With all due respect how the fcuk would you feel?

I would be pissed off but not with Chinese but with my fvcking goverment who allowed them to come.
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,368
5 Feb 2011 #56
Well now, what would be your wild guess as to the veracity of his claims - both of profession and of nationality for that matter?

His username and use of language is a bit of a giveaway.

That is why i had put in the proviso.
Mr Grunwald 33 | 2,173
24 Feb 2011 #57
His username and use of language is a bit of a giveaway.

probably British... Russians aren't THAT Slavophiles longer when it's about Poles right? Ukrainains are more thought of as Russians then Poles soo.. probably not a Russian
Teffle 22 | 1,321
24 Feb 2011 #58
probably British

I doubt English is his first language.

Anyway, the dick has gone seemingly.


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