And as for them not wanting to move out - really, how much is "not want to" and how much is some sort of social pressure to leave the flat to the grandkids?
No it's real "don't want". My grandma didn't want a new color tv because she was so used to her old black and white. She claimed her eyes pain when she watches the color one so she used the balck and white until it's comepletely broken up. It's the same with everything: places, objects, style of a life. There is even a famous saying "starych drzew się nie przesadza" (the old trees shouldn't be moved).
How many times have you heard a story of an elder person who didn't want to move out of his flat in an old, falling into pieces tenement house? I hear it many times on tv.
Stories which begins like "a social workers are offering a 8x-years old tenant a better conditioned flat but an elder person doesn't want to move because has been living there since the pre war etc." I heard about such and similiar case so many times!
If you don't know that (or just pretend to don't know that) it means that despite being for years in Poland you don't know Polish culture well yet.
Sadly, it's true. If they loved and cared about them, they'd sell the flat and use the money to make sure that their grandparents live the rest of their days in comfortable surroundings.
They don't want anybody to sell their flat. They are owners of their flat so if they wanted to sell they would do it on their own, young man. As I said above, elder people rarely want to move out from the places which are sentimental to them. That's why they don't sell their houses to move to better ones.
Let's say a typical flat in a city, worth around 300-400k. That's more than enough money to buy a smaller, modern flat and the rest of the money used to equip it with all sorts of things to make an elderly person's life better.
If someone lived in a flat in a city for most of his life then such person would be deeply unhappy to move to a house with a garden in some village. The same with opposite situation. My late grandma who lived for whole her life in a village (where she was born) was always saying she couldn't live like my parents in a flat in a city. The water smelled for here chlorine, one couldn't go outside so easly, no forests, etc. She didn't like the city.
Besides that you forgot about one more important thing. Elder people have friends too! They are within some social circles which they don't always want to leave. And you want to uproot them, bereave the life and people they knew for so many years!
Honestly you act like you had no grandparents or maybe these are cultural things, I don't know.
because the children are just far too busy
the grandkids are grown up now and don't need looked after
It's easy to judge people isn't it? Is your wife's grandma living with you?
This "Grandfather day" and "grandmother day". Communist invention, and hilariously used by people nowadays.
So you say because it's a communist invention it shouldn't be celebrated? lol
Communist inventions, such as "Women's day".
I want it to be celebrated. And I want a flower in that day.
By the way it's world-widely celebrated not only in former communist bloc.
one psychologist I know actually advocates the grandparents taking no part in the actual caring of children
Then you would have a generation of people who have no respect for elders (just the same like some of the foreigners on this forum, who thinks that an elder needs to earn respect first!)
m sure we've all seen the maniacal Babcia who wraps the child in ten million layers on a boiling hot day.
None of my grandma did it. You see the world only through seterotypes, don't you?
I'm glad my babcie i dziadki aren't alive today to see the mass westernization, followed by corruption, taking place in their beautiful old slavic country. And worst yet, how the young Poles today are completely endursing it.
Won't your grandparents be shocked to see the tone of piercing on your face?