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During winter in Poland, does petrol in the car freezes


Wroclaw Boy
15 Dec 2010 #31
a dab of vaseline works as well.

I stopped that as it contains petroleum not healthy for paintwork.

Not sure if the glass will always survive.

Glass will survive what?
nott 3 | 594
15 Dec 2010 #32
nott: Not sure if the glass will always survive.

Glass will survive what?

a splash of tepid water in -18
trener zolwia 1 | 939
15 Dec 2010 #33
Not sure if the glass will always survive.

Yeah, you don't want to get that warm water anywhere near the window glass.
Wroclaw Boy
15 Dec 2010 #34
a splash of tepid water in -18

only if you have untreated chips.
nott 3 | 594
15 Dec 2010 #35
how big?
Wroclaw Boy
15 Dec 2010 #36
Come on im not a bloody wind screen specialist, you'll find out if it freeze thaws enough. I had a small chip two years ago. The day before i was due to drive across Europe it cracked right across the screen. A new screens about £250 a chip repair - £15, get it fixed....
Trevek 26 | 1,702
15 Dec 2010 #37
I was driving up to Goldap one hard winter, with my rear windscreen heater on. Suddenly the entire window shattered. I had to drive the rest of the way with no rear window.
trener zolwia 1 | 939
15 Dec 2010 #38
only if you have untreated chips.

im not a bloody wind screen specialist

A cold window glass doesn't have to be chipped for warm water to break it. :s
You skip that day in second grade science class?
Wroclaw Boy
15 Dec 2010 #39
A cold window glass doesn't have to be chipped for warm water to break it.

I'm well aware of the expand / retract properties of freeze and thaw glass numb nuts, seems America is a tad behind the times.

Come on move over let the other guy have a go on the internet for a while.
trener zolwia 1 | 939
15 Dec 2010 #40
Well this idiot statement:

only if you have untreated chips.

Would seem to contradict this statement:

I'm well aware of the expand / retract properties of freeze and thaw glass

Just to prove it so I think you should go outside right now and throw a pot of boiling water on the roof of your car and see what happens to all the windows as it cascades down over the car. In the name of science, of course. ;)
Wroclaw Boy
15 Dec 2010 #42
right now and throw a pot of boiling water on the roof of your car

hence my post of tepid water, thats TEPID water.
trener zolwia 1 | 939
15 Dec 2010 #43
Warm water is fine.

No, even warm water will break a frozen window.

Forget about using water on a frozen car, peeps.
Chicago Pollock 7 | 504
15 Dec 2010 #44
Yeah, you can use hot water to unfreeze stuff but you have to wipe it dry so it doesn't refreeze.

to keep gas lines from freezing we use either ethanol or methanol, even if it has water it it. Alcohols are miscible with water. Ever heard of whiskey and water?
trener zolwia 1 | 939
15 Dec 2010 #45
You can't use hot water on frozen glass.

No one in their right mind would intentionally put water (washer fluid) in their fuel tank, ever, especially in the winter.
Harry
15 Dec 2010 #46
In the meantime does anybody have some advice how to open a solid-frozen cardoor open? From my car only my door (driver's side) opens these days.

Go shopping in Zloty Tarasy for a couple of hours: by the time your car has been in their lovely heated garage for that long, all the ice is a distant memory. I'll be taking my car down there this evening.
dtaylor5632 18 | 2,007
15 Dec 2010 #47
Warm water is fine, never had a problem with it once. Doesnt have the energy to crack the screen.
wildrover 98 | 4,451
16 Dec 2010 #48
When i was in one of the colder regions of Russia I was rather amazed to see people lighting log fires under trucks to heat them up enough to start , and even more amazed to watch em throwing buckets of benzine on the axles and gearboxes and lighting it , and then chucking more on to get a good blaze going....

When its really cold you need to warm everything , as the metal is very brittle when cold and can easily break...

In the far north of Russia people go home from work and leave the car running all night while they sleep...! if they turn it off , it ain,t never gonna start again untill the spring....

Many people have a heated garage....

Of course things can go wrong....i saw a Lada go up in flames after the owner got a bit too handy with the petrol to warm it up....
trener zolwia 1 | 939
16 Dec 2010 #49
amazed to see people lighting log fires under trucks to heat them up enough to start , and even more amazed to watch em throwing buckets of benzine on the axles and gearboxes and lighting it , and then chucking more on to get a good blaze going....

i saw a Lada go up in flames after the owner got a bit too handy with the petrol to warm it up....

I've wondered about wires and rubber and other parts under there that couldn't take the flames and heat...
wildrover 98 | 4,451
16 Dec 2010 #50
Exactly...its not something i would fancy doing to my car...!

Maybe Russian wiring can take this kind of abuse....???

Oh no...hang on...Russian wiring sets on fire without any help....
trener zolwia 1 | 939
16 Dec 2010 #51
Burn off the undercoating and paint... Then they'll wonder why their trucks rust out...
Chicago Pollock 7 | 504
16 Dec 2010 #52
No one in their right mind would intentionally put water (washer fluid) in their fuel tank, ever, especially in the winter.

In WWII fighter planes, used water injection for extra boost. Water contains hydrogen and cools the charge preventing detonation. Water with alcohol will not freeze. Water injection units still sold today for cars. Check out SNOWS: snowperformance.net.
trener zolwia 1 | 939
16 Dec 2010 #53
The whole point is to eliminate any water in the fuel system that will freeze in the fuel filter. The tiny bit of alcohol in washer fluid is negated by the 99% water. Dumb idea.
Chicago Pollock 7 | 504
16 Dec 2010 #54
The washer fluid doesn't freeze on the window in winter, it won't freeze in your gas line.
Trevek 26 | 1,702
16 Dec 2010 #55
Forget about using water on a frozen car, peeps.

I just tip windscreen wash over it.
Teffle 22 | 1,321
16 Dec 2010 #56
What's wrong - does nobody simply turn on the engine, turn up the heating and use a simple honest plastic scraper anymore?

Only takes a couple of minutes.
trener zolwia 1 | 939
16 Dec 2010 #57
Sure washer fluid, being 99% water, freezes in very cold weather. Of course it does, says so right on the bottle it's only good down to a certain temp. And it certainly freezes long before fuel will.

Just admit it was bad advice, a poorly thought idea and we'll move on.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,384
16 Dec 2010 #58
that dashboard cleaner anti-static spray is a light oil and should stop car doors from freezing solid.
the usual brand here is Plak.
trener zolwia 1 | 939
16 Dec 2010 #59
dashboard cleaner anti-static spray is a light oil and should stop car doors from freezing

There are a number of automotive vinyl and leather treatments that work well on rubber weather stripping for this. Over here the best known is Armor All. It's good to treat your weather stripping from time to time even when freezing isn't a problem. Keeps them from drying out.
Teffle 22 | 1,321
16 Dec 2010 #60
I stopped that as it contains petroleum not healthy for paintwork.

Loads of so called car-care products (tar/bug wipes, wax etc) contain petroleum also though so I wouldn't think it would be disasterous to use it.


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