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Is time on Poland's side? Unsustainable future.


Rich Mazur 5 | 3,105
21 May 2018  #1
The way things are moving in the US, WE, and Poland, the word unsustainable comes to mind. Personally, I should not care because of my age. Being emotionally invested in the country where I grew up - yes, trolls, that would be Poland - and where my home and my family are which is the US, it is painful to see how time is not on my side or on the side of white Christians. What the "democracies" are unable to do is plan long term and make their systems sustainable. I have no doubt that Europe is on its way to a disaster or another Hitler. Poland's future is equally bleak by being connected to the suicidal morons ithe WE for the money it receives.
cms neuf - | 850
21 May 2018  #2
Are you sure the country you grew up in is not Russia ? Because you bear all the hallmarks of a Russian troll
delphiandomine 84 | 17,703
21 May 2018  #3
It doesn't sound odd, it's unthinkable. Think about it - at least in all the schools I've ever been to (and that's quite a few in Poland...), there's always someone guarding the front door. If some old man turned up without an appointment wanting to get inside, he'd be politely asked to leave. There's certainly no way he would be allowed to just come into the school and start meeting kids, and he certainly wouldn't be allowed to use the kids bathroom!

Still, let him write something in Polish. He apparently finished a technical university here, so it should be no problem for him to produce some text in Polish about something such as physics. The floor is yours, Ryszard.
Ziemowit 12 | 3,363
21 May 2018  #4
Or if he's being so lame at trolling just to pretend to be someone else

I don't think he is Polish. But he pretends to being one. Notice that he correctly used the slang word 'Polibuda' in his first post,

In 1966, fifty two years ago, I was waving good-bye to my parents with a diploma from Polibuda in my bag,

but then he said

as the train I was on started rolling west toward a more civilized world

which was not at all feasible in communist Poland of 1966 under Gomulka's rule (to buy a train ticket and go to the West) unless you perhaps did not belong to a 'priviliged' world of the commie super-class.
kaprys 2 | 1,674
21 May 2018  #5
@mods
Actually my post in #3 should have be in random chat, too. At least, it'd be corrected there. ;) moved

@Ziemowit
He's probably stalking someone's profile or just knows someone Polish.
Coś tam niby wie, ale tak naprawdę myli mu się wiele rzeczy, o błędach językowych nie wspominając.

@Rich Mazur
yes ... white Christians are a minority in Poland ...
But come on. What's the alternative for Western Europe?
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,238
21 May 2018  #6
White christians arent a minority in poland what are you talking about... 87% of Poles identify as Roman catholic.. add the 1 2% of orthodox and 1 2% of protestants, Jehovah witness etc and you're at 90%+. Yes church attendance is down but nonetheless the vast majority of poles identify as christian

This shows how godless w europe has become - majority in places like uk, sweden, etc never pray, never attend religious services and identify woth no religion.

In all three areas poland scores at the very top with the highest percentage of people going to church weekly/less than weekly, pray, and identify with a religion

theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/21/christianity-non-christian-europe-young-people-survey-religion
kaprys 2 | 1,674
21 May 2018  #7
That was sarcasm, Sheldon.
Ziemowit 12 | 3,363
21 May 2018  #8
Apparently Sheldon is not a real Pole as a real one would have instantly recognised sarcasm in your sentence, Kaprys.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,238
21 May 2018  #9
I was about to say....

@Ziemowit
You could go to the west provided you bribed someone to get a visa or were lucky enough to obtain one if you could convince the agent you were jusg visiting family
Ziemowit 12 | 3,363
21 May 2018  #10
bribed someone to get a visa

I will comment on that not earlier than when this ridiculous 'Mazur' explains how he managed to buy his train ticket to the so-called 'rotten West' in 1966.
delphiandomine 84 | 17,703
21 May 2018  #11
I would like to hear his explanation in Polish, too.
OP Rich Mazur 5 | 3,105
22 May 2018  #12
All of you, with one exception, are beyond pathetic.

I opened a subject that any European should find at least interesting if not disturbing and some morons here are discussing my train tickets in 1966 or if I, in fact, can write or speak Polish. Grow up.
johnny reb 16 | 3,377
22 May 2018  #13
You will learn that here on the P.F. that you are expected to "defend " your each and every post.
Something the ex-pats here started.
They love to argue for the sake of argument with no sense of humor at all.
When you challenge them though they immediately go into junior high school meltdown mode by getting nasty and start with insults for their defense going way off - topic for a re direct like they have with you.

You'll catch on if you hang around that long.
Just consider the source and don't take it personal.
OP Rich Mazur 5 | 3,105
22 May 2018  #14
Good advice. I have thick skin and I can take any insult - the ability I acquired just by being around for so long. The problem I see is that all this infantile bickering gets in the way of an adult, on points, conversation.
kaprys 2 | 1,674
22 May 2018  #15
@johnny reb
I'm not an expat and I'm sure he's not a native speaker of Polish.
And pretending to be who you are not IS pathetic.
The same applies to trolling, making up stories and using Google translate.
He's probably a regular here and some other people know who he is.

@Rich Mazur
So if you don't like the way people live in Poland, Western Europe and the US, what do you suggest? Saudi Arabia, Russia, North Korea.
delphiandomine 84 | 17,703
22 May 2018  #16
if I, in fact, can write or speak Polish.

You obviously can't, given that you can't even explain a simple situation in Polish. It's okay, we understand that there are people out there that actually fantasise about using school toilets with missing doors.
Ziemowit 12 | 3,363
22 May 2018  #17
I would like to hear his explanation in Polish, too.

It is obvious he won't tell you any in any language whatsoever. Have you noticed how quickly he turned this question down? Buying a railway ticket so as to go to the West was by any means impossible for a young man like him who had just finished studying at 'Polibuda'. Such a journey would have been viewed in ideological terms by the authorities back in 1966. They would not sell him any ticket to the West if he didn't produce a passport at the ticket office. Even then they would not sell him the ticket if he wasn't paying with hard currency and if he was, he would be obliged to show a receit that his hard currency comes from an official exchange which he wouldn't have been able to exercize if he did not have an official written permission for doing so.

And the question of getting a passport from the communist regime in Poland could not be any means a matter of bribe in 1966.

It is thus clear that the moron has not the slightest idea what the political reality looked like in Poland under the communist regime at that time. Receiving a passport from the regime in 1966 was absolutely out of question for a young man unless he was a son of a very high-rank communist official. And even in that case it was not at all obvious since the comrades of his father (the Party) would have asked why his son feels the need to leave the happy land of 'socialist' Poland in order to go to the "rotten" West as the so-called 'West' was commonly called by the communist propaganda back in the 1960s.

So it is also clear why the moron has turned the question of buying a ticket to the West so quickly down. The Berlin Wall was not built without reason.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,670
22 May 2018  #18
all this infantile bickering gets in the way of an adult, on points, conversation

only an old English teacher would even talk like that...:) Just saying.
The 'long' words, the belittlement..
delphiandomine 84 | 17,703
22 May 2018  #19
Have you noticed how quickly he turned this question down?

Indeed. You'd think that for someone so keen to tell us about himself, he'd explain how he was able to just jump on a train to the West, but clearly not.

for a young man like him who had just finished studying at 'Polibuda'.

From what I understand, a young single man who had just finished higher education would have zero chance of going unless he was very well connected. The regime wasn't going to let someone go who was educated and would almost certainly stay in the West, especially with badly needed technical skills. Not to mention that his story simply doesn't add up - as you say, you didn't just go to the Radom train station and ask for one ticket to the West.

I think things did liberalise a bit under Gierek, but there was no way Gomułka's regime was going to let people go freely.

Still, it should be easy for him to explain how he obtained the passport.
Miloslaw 6 | 1,687
22 May 2018  #20
In the early sixties,my only uncle still living in Poland was allowed to come and visit us in The UK but he had to leave his wife and son behind in Poland to ensure he would return.


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