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Does teetotalism even exist in Poland?


AreYouOkay 1 | -
30 Sep 2013 #1
Of course, every one of my family members in Poland drinks alcohol and I am often finding myself denying any sort of alcoholic beverages offered to me. I am male [born white Polish] and simply interested in the general sentiment towards teetotalism [or abstinence from alcohol] in Poland: does it even exist?

Reasons for doing so: I do not like how I feel whilst under the influence; I would rather pursue other activities in my free time, such as physical fitness, etc.

Regards

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Oczywiście, każdy z osobow w mojej rodziny w Polsce pije alkohol i ja często znajduje siebie odmawiac napoje alkoholowe oferowana. Jestem mężczyzna [urodzone bialy Polak] i po prostu ciekawi z ogólny sentyment do antyalkoholizm [lub abstynencji od alkoholu] w Polsce: czy to nawet istnieje?

Przyczyny takiego postępowania: Nie lubię, jak się czuję pod wpływem; wolałbym realizować inne czynności w wolnym czasie, np. sprawności fizycznej itp.

Pozdrawiam.
pierogi2000 4 | 227
30 Sep 2013 #2
I believe going from one extreme to the other isn't effective. Meaning going from frequent or massive drinking to complete soberness. But I understand the difficulty in "having just one".

Does teetotalism exist? Of course and it is increasing with the younger general and especially with more drugs available. My personal experience is that if you avoid alcohol completely, you will find yourself resenting those drinking or in general feeling out of place. Have you tried Non Alcoholic beer?

Having a hobby in mind: staying active with physical sports is great. I would recommend a web size such as 'MeetUp' to schedule hang outs
SeanBM 35 | 5,793
30 Sep 2013 #3
simply interested in the general sentiment towards teetotalism [or abstinence from alcohol] in Poland: does it even exist?

I know people a bit older who became teetotalers as a passive way of defying communism.

During communist times the idea was promoted by the church that if you wanted change you had to be sober.

I think there might have been a notion that the communist system wanted to keep people drunk and therefore easy to control.

There were rumors of a plan for a vodka pipeline from Russia.

A quick google search and I came across this:

Demonstrating that vodka does not recognise political borders, Kesminas has produced a detailed "Dipsomanic" map of Lithuania and the surrounding regions of Belarus, Russia, Poland and Latvia, disclosing the location of the vodka pipeline network, the regions of distribution, the converted clandestine distilleries and the buildings that receive and distribute the contraband.

In association with the London-based architectural-visualisation studio HayesDavidson, Kesminas has prepared a photo-documentary suite of vodka pipeline situations. These 23 photographs reveal the illegal pipelines-to-oblivion in diverse Lithuanian locations.

gusto
30 Sep 2013 #4
thats why the drink drive limit is so low in poland as the notion of just 1 drink does not exist its all or nothing my friend stopped drinking at new year and everyone thinks he must be dying as they cant see any other explanation for it
grubas 12 | 1,384
30 Sep 2013 #5
[born white Polish]

You were born WHITE Polish?This is so unusual!
This person is not Polish.
and this

Oczywiście, każdy z osobow w mojej rodziny w Polsce pije alkohol i ja często znajduje siebie odmawiac napoje alkoholowe oferowana. Jestem mężczyzna [urodzone bialy Polak] i po prostu ciekawi z ogólny sentyment do antyalkoholizm [lub abstynencji od alkoholu] w Polsce: czy to nawet istnieje?

is a computer translation.
Wulkan - | 3,186
30 Sep 2013 #6
What was your reason of coping and pasing this text to a Polish google translator and then pasting it back here?
ClearlyNotOkay
3 Oct 2013 #7
I am particularly enjoying how I am unable to defend myself [end sarcasm], despite obvious defamation of my character. I am not a troll account as I previously posted two threads re: the Collegium Civitas, albeit as an unregistered user. I originally believed that the point of a forum was supposed to encourage somewhat-polite discussion amongst its members; now it seems clear that the moderators have some sort of agenda they need to enforce [probably something racist and xenophobic, as it is the wont of my Slavic brethren, unfortunately]. Regardless, if it is the expectation of the owner(s) that the moderators are supposed to act as representatives of the forum, and doubly as "unofficial" diplomats of Poland, as I can certainly imagine the potential of such a situation arising, then in this instance, it has sadly failed.

p.s. I copy and paste into a translator for my own benefit, as, in this way, I am enriching my vocabulary and capabilities in spelling in the Polish [to some, I imagine, it may not be so obvious].
SeanBM 35 | 5,793
3 Oct 2013 #8
Of the 5 replies to your post you choose to focus on 1.
ClearlyNotOkay
3 Oct 2013 #9
Let's very quickly do some arithmetic. In my paragraph, the focus on the one defaming post [that you claim], I passively mention in only the second half of my first sentence. The remaining four statements are related to the moderator's behavior in deleting my posts [nothing posted by a user on this thread; i.e., the actual focus of my post]. The post-scriptum, on the other hand, actually answers Wulkan's question.

I appreciate your input regarding teetotalism as a very subtle form of civil disobedience; it is quite intriguing to read and would probably make for an interesting piece of investigative journalism. In the future, though, I recommend not firing from the hip, 8000+ posts notwithstanding.
r0xd_j00
18 Mar 2014 #10
ClearlyNotOkay
Hi,

Going back to the original point: teetotalism - I don't drink or smoke or snort or anything. I used to, ever since I was 13 (I grew up in the uk). I quit as I grew up and found it to be great. I'm actually sorry I wasted so much of my life being intoxicated.

The vodka/communism population control is true, it's mentioned in many books from those days. Look at russia today.
It goes back to waaaay before those times, as it's a beverage that's easy to make from what we have.

I find myself noticing that more and more people are staying sober. I'm guessing it's a market effect: lots of alkhos lead to lots of clinics which in turn lead to lots of newly sober people. It's really all about education. Once you understand that you don't need to be drunk to enjoy yourself (and you stay healthy, and save money, and can drive to the party etc), you really find no reason to be drunk.

It's all rather complex, lots of books about it. Bottom line is: being sober in Poland is frowned up as most poles grow up in families which are by deafult alkholic pathologies. They just don't understand it. The mass scale means your either with us or against us. I have a good friend that made it clear: "I'm not calling you when we go out, cause I want to have a drink and you don't drink". My explanation that I can have a good time sober doesn't matter.

BTW I cam across this looking for teetos in Poland. This is the only topic I came across.

BTW2 Also it's sad u get trolled for talking about teetos. Sad sad sad. It's also sad u got trolled for actually trying to learn polish. Which is something that rarely happens as most people who come to my country expect and demand you talk english to them. They don't feel the need to learn polish. Which is understandable these days.

Regards


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