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Why Poland is "surprised" by winter and snow every year?


wildrover 98 | 4,451
4 Dec 2010 #151
the best way to buy it is in tree length logs , and chop it yourself....but you need a chainsaw of course...
trener zolwia 1 | 939
4 Dec 2010 #152
I used to do that years ago. It's a lot, a lot of hard work.

Thus the saying "firewood warms you twice".
More like three or four times once you cut it, split it, move it and stack it... all before you ever actually burn it.
Who has time for that? $150 a cord is worth it.
f stop 25 | 2,513
5 Dec 2010 #153
he said it would be about 3000 zloty

Jeez... for the money it will take you to keep from freezing over the winter, I would head for warmer climets.
1jola 14 | 1,879
5 Dec 2010 #154
A ton of coal is 1,000 zl. this year in my area. That is considerably more than last year, and you would need a ton for the season, maybe a little more. If you are heating with wood only, you will wake up to a freezing house in the morning, so it is essential to add a pale of coal for the night. Normally, in the countryside, you can buy it at the same place where farmers buy fertilizer.
Wroclaw Boy
5 Dec 2010 #155
A cord of wood is 20 m3 (cubic meters)

Actually a cord of wood is 3.62 m3 or 128 cubic foot.

A ton of coal is 1,000 zl. this year in my area.

I think we paid about that a few years ago, i always find coal doesnt burn to well on my fire, doesnt seem to provide much heat either.
1jola 14 | 1,879
5 Dec 2010 #156
i always find coal doesnt burn to well on my fire, doesnt seem to provide much heat either.

Poor quality coal will do that. More stone than coal.
wildrover 98 | 4,451
5 Dec 2010 #157
you will wake up to a freezing house in the morning,

Noo not true...if i top up my fire with wood before i go to sleep the thing is still hot in the morning....it stays hot for ages and keeps on putting out heat...

The Polish ceramic fires are a very good design...
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
5 Dec 2010 #158
Last night the electricity went in the house.
My gas combi boiler can not function without electricity.
My thermometer gave up at minus 20 and broke.
So thank goodness for my fire place, I only installed it because I like looking at a fire.
I didn't realise it would be my life line, without it I would have had to abandon the house and spend the night in a hotel.

The snow builds up in the electric cables, freezes and pulls them down under their weight.

On the other hand, the air is crisp and fresh, all the bacteria is dead and it really looks beautiful.

It has warmed up to minus 1 now (never thought I'd say that:)
wildrover 98 | 4,451
5 Dec 2010 #159
Losing the electric seems to be pretty common out in the sticks , not only is there a problem with the cables breaking under the weight of snow , but often tree branches snap for the same reason , and fall on the power lines , bringing them down....

If you live out in the wilds its always a good idea to have an alternative source of heat , power and light....

They seem to be pretty quick at fixing them though...
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
5 Dec 2010 #160
Losing the electric seems to be pretty common

Remember last year 350,000 people in MaƂopolska lost their electricity in the dead of winter.
It was a real catastrophe, like a third world country.

A lot of the problem seems to stem from People not wanting to have power cables running through their plot.
During communism, the state could pretty do what it wanted and now they have the option many people say "No" to underground cables running on their plot.

I have been told that some are afraid that they won't be able to build in the future and others are just miserable and say no to everything, and others want money.

The law has to change, like it did with the accusation of land to build the international motorways that they are building all over the country.

Someone sayiing no to an underground cable that will not effect them in anyway is unacceptable compared to thousands not having electricity mid winter.

The needs of the many do out way the needs of the few in this instance.
Barney 15 | 1,483
5 Dec 2010 #161
thank goodness for my fire place, I only installed it because I like looking at a fire.

I know it's not the same extremes but I have always lived with a fire place. If all else fails you can light a fire and cook on it (We did in the 1970s).

A fire brings a house to life is good for the building re air flow and gives a special heat.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,384
5 Dec 2010 #162
uk.news.yahoo/22/20101205/tts-uk-weather-poland-deaths-ca02f96.html

Five Poles died from exposure to cold overnight, bringing the death toll to 52 since the start of the cold weather season last month, the Government Security Centre said Sunday.
trener zolwia 1 | 939
5 Dec 2010 #163
I know it's not the same extremes but I have always lived with a fire place. If all else fails you can light a fire and cook on it (We did in the 1970s).

A fire brings a house to life is good for the building re air flow and gives a special heat.

I lived in an old house for years with a wood stove that I used as my primary source of heat, leaving the old oil burner as backup. Dealing with the wood becomes a messy big hassle. And your house and everything in it stinks like smoke. Always.

Now I just use my fireplace for ambiance on snowy nights or when company is visiting and as an emergency heater should the power go out for long.

bringing the death toll to 52 since the start of the cold weather season last month

Very sad.
Barney 15 | 1,483
5 Dec 2010 #164
Dealing with the wood becomes a messy big hassle. And your house and everything in it stinks like smoke.

There is an old Punk friend of mine who doesn’t burn a fire for those reasons, I have always found that strange. Well managed, an open fire though not terribly efficient is an asset to any home. I have considered getting a wood burning stove but the kids are against it. Last winter the fire was a godsend, the oil fired central heating froze overnight busting the water pump and it was a few days before I could get a new one.
trener zolwia 1 | 939
5 Dec 2010 #165
I have considered getting a wood burning stove but the kids are against it.

A wood stove throws more heat and is much more efficient than a fireplace.

And who's calling the shots in your house; the children or you?! :)

The new pellet stoves are cool but then you're stuck having to buy the pellets, and I hear they can be expensive.
PlasticPole 7 | 2,650
5 Dec 2010 #166
People are always surprised about weather. In the summer, if it gets too hot, it's such a surprise. Same goes for snow and winter. People make a big deal about everything.
Barney 15 | 1,483
5 Dec 2010 #167
And who's calling the shots in your house; the children or you?! :)

I'm as far down the pecking order as I allow myself to be......Rarrrrrrar:)
wildrover 98 | 4,451
9 Dec 2010 #168
My girlfriend tells me that they have just had a big pile of snow in Moscow , and the public transport is not running today.....Seems its not only Poland and the UK that is suprised by a bit of snow in the winter...!
PlasticPole 7 | 2,650
9 Dec 2010 #169
I love snow! I am awaiting our first snowfall of the winter here. It looks like another pre ice age winter is taking shape across the northern hemisphere.
wildrover 98 | 4,451
9 Dec 2010 #170
If anyone is short of snow , please feel free to come to my place...bring a shovel....
OP pgtx 30 | 3,156
11 Dec 2010 #171
PF members who have too much snow should organize a shipment of packages with snow to those how do not have any snow at all... think about it.... help people....

;)
trener zolwia 1 | 939
11 Dec 2010 #172
The Polish cartel is shipping packages of white powder to the states!
Trevek 26 | 1,702
11 Dec 2010 #173
wow, my street is so snow loaded that we can't turn the cars around. I can only just park the car (allowing enough room for others to pass).

I bet if the presidential election in Olsztyn was this sunday then the streets would be so cleared it would be unbelievable.
peter_olsztyn 6 | 1,098
11 Dec 2010 #174
to shovel all of it into his parking space and then add all the snow from round and on top of my car.

Good job! You are full-time Pole now ;)

I bet if the presidential election in Olsztyn was this sunday then the streets would be so cleared

It looks so funny because one street next to front of my house has one owner and second has another. First is clean including parking bays but second looks like Alpine ski resort ;)

In workplace we can feel safe because we have this
Trevek 26 | 1,702
11 Dec 2010 #175
First is clean including parking bays but second looks like Alpine ski resort ;)

Yep, our osiedle actually had a snow plough a few days ago... only problem is that it pushed everything to the side and now we look like a valley, with mountain ranges each side.

Mind you, last year it took something like 2 months for the snow-plough to arrive and the pile of stuff at the end of the road was around 2.5 metres high!

Still, atleast t means we don't notice the huge holes in the road.
wildrover 98 | 4,451
11 Dec 2010 #176
Its plus 5 degrees up in Pomerania....so if you want any snow you better come and get it before it melts...
trener zolwia 1 | 939
18 Dec 2010 #177
Had our first measurable snow yesterday. Yep, peeps were surprised as if they'd never seen snow before, and driving like retards on meth. All for a half an inch of snow. :s
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,441
18 Dec 2010 #178
well, there is snow in Szczecin and yesterday I was standing at the crossing waiting for the light to change and the driver lost control and was heading in our direction. He regained the control, but it was a bit strange to see drivers loosing control and not being used to the road conditions. The city looks beautiful though.

I feel sorry for those old people who have to go shopping during this time. My father actually crashed his face when walking on the sidewalk a week ago - fortunately apart from some bruising he is fine, but he cannot go out and is going crazy being licked in the house:(
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,883
18 Dec 2010 #179
aphrodisiac wrote:

he cannot go out and is going crazy being licked in the house:(

kinky!
wildrover 98 | 4,451
18 Dec 2010 #180
Perhaps the water is frozen and they can,t clean him any other way....?

Still snowing up here in Pomerania , about minus 8 outside , last night my outside tempreture sensor on the Jeep said it was minus 12...

Meanwhile , over in Moscow its minus 22 , but they don,t have snow at the moment...The snow that they had , melted , and as usual caused floods all over the place...This has now frozen into nice skating rinks for the Moscow drivers...


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