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What would YOU do to make life in poland better??


zetigrek
21 Jul 2010  #1
Some of you like to complain that Poland didn't come up to your expectations or ponder why Poles can't makie it and other western nations could.

So this is a thread of random ideas how & what way make live comfy and easy in every aspects you would like to mention. Maybe u as foreigners can pick some good ideas and solutions from ur country which can work in Poland ;)
plk123 8 | 4,153
21 Jul 2010  #2
i think that other thread of yours pretty much spells out the issue foreigners have with PL, so fixing those would be the thing to do... although then PL wouldn't be PL.. and I don't know if that's what we want.. foreigners don't have to love PL.. Poles do, however.
lowfunk99 10 | 397
21 Jul 2010  #3
Ice in drinks!!! :-)
dtaylor5632 18 | 2,007
21 Jul 2010  #4
1. Fire all grannies working in public institutions such as post offices, town halls ect.
2. Have separate carriages on trams for the old grannies to sit.
3.Remove all babka hats from shops.
4. Destroy the rule that old grannies can barge into the queue's in shops and skip ahead.
OP zetigrek
21 Jul 2010  #5
i think that other thread of yours pretty much spells out the issue foreigners have with PL, so fixing those would be the thing to do... although then PL wouldn't be PL.. and I don't know if that's what we want.. foreigners don't have to love PL.. Poles do, however.

Poland needs to be fix, if not u would be here not in USA.

babka hats

a babka hats? whats that?
szarlotka 8 | 2,209
21 Jul 2010  #6
Hmm. Actually Poland exceeded my expectations the first time I ever went there (which was way before them damned Ruskies pulled out). In my view the postives have always outweighed the negatives. Some people just can't cope with things being different, not necessarlily worse just different. Sure there are things that could change for the better, even for Poles but the changes in twenty years have been pretty dramatic. I just hope that your real sense of identity isn't lost in the headlong rush to embrace the changes.

FIX THE PLUMBING IN OLDER APARTMENTS IN WARSAW (that's a cry from the heart from me)
dtaylor5632 18 | 2,007
21 Jul 2010  #7
a babka hats

the wooly hats old women wear ;p
pgtx 29 | 3,160
21 Jul 2010  #8
beret! :)
dtaylor5632 18 | 2,007
21 Jul 2010  #9
beret

but I prefer babka hats :P
pgtx 29 | 3,160
21 Jul 2010  #10
it makes me think of Easter... :)
plk123 8 | 4,153
21 Jul 2010  #11
1. Fire all grannies working in public institutions such as post offices, town halls ect.

but not in WC.. ;)

lowfunk99:
Ice in drinks!!! :-)

lol....

haha

Poland needs to be fix, if not u would be here not in USA.

not anymore.. i am too used to the "room" here and i still like my guns.. :)
unless of course you are inviting me back. :)

pgtx:
beret

but I prefer babka hats :P

but that's the hot stuff on Champs-Elysees.. ;D
nauczyciel
21 Jul 2010  #12
driving and parking courtesies.

pizza. is not a dough with ketchup on it with some toppings scattered around.
OP zetigrek
21 Jul 2010  #13
pizza. is not a dough with ketchup on it with some toppings scattered around.

You must eat a freezed pseudopizza. In my city there are lots of pizzeries and very tasty (the dressings are the best). I like very much Da Grasso chain restaurants.
pgtx 29 | 3,160
21 Jul 2010  #14
pizza

good pizza you eat in Italy... in Poland you eat good pierogi...
:)
plk123 8 | 4,153
21 Jul 2010  #15
good pizza you eat in Italy...

no you don't.. you want Chicago pizza, trust me. :)
pgtx 29 | 3,160
21 Jul 2010  #16
you want Chicago pizza, trust me. :)

i had pizza in Chicago and i had pizza in Italy... Italy wins, even though In Chicago isn't too shabby... :)
OP zetigrek
21 Jul 2010  #17
and polish pizza nie przystaje ani trochę? ;(
dtaylor5632 18 | 2,007
21 Jul 2010  #18
Da Grasso

Yes yes and yes! I loved that place, there was one at the bottom of my block. Later I found out during a lesson I was teaching the owner and he lived in the same block as me! Presto I had free pizza once a week for the duration of my time on Starowislna :)
pgtx 29 | 3,160
21 Jul 2010  #19
and polish pizza nie przystaje ani trochę? ;(

no, sorry.... but zapiekanki are awesomely yummy...! ;)
A J 4 | 1,089
21 Jul 2010  #20
Appreciate eachother for what you can do for eachother, and don't ever follow that social-segregation fairytale that certain elements in the media are trying to present to the younger generation world-wide. Not everyone can be a bankmanager or a professor, and not everyone wants to become one either.

If you follow materialism like people have been following over here, then you'll see how your society will wreck itself eventually, trust me. A leisure economy won't function for too long either, because there will always be people who simply can't live up to the ever-increasing demands. Money is important, but it shouldn't define your whole life or who you are as a person. A bunch of lonely career women and single guys who supposedly aren't good enough anymore are not going to be the happiest people ever, because it's not in our nature to spend half, or even our entire lives alone. It's not healthy. So don't sacrifice everything for success.

So too much focus on success, career and knowledge may sound progressive, but this philosophy has the potential to segregate and wreck complete societies. (As proven in Western Europe.) A healthy and productive society is a society in which people stand together and value, and sometimes even depend on another, and if there's a good atmosphere then things will get nice and comfy eventually. Money isn't everything you know. People who make themselves useful should be recoqnized and respected for it, no matter what they do, no matter how small their jobs may seem to you. People who feel appreciated and valued for what they contribute are productive people. Neglected, unemployed and socially stigmatized people aren't productive at all. They actually cost money.

This may sound idealistic and hippy to you, but maybe you'll understand it when you've seen it happen all around you. I can assure you there's practical and financial thinking behind every word in this post, if you care to think it through.

:)
Ironside 47 | 9,585
22 Jul 2010  #21
Why do you ask only foreigners?
A J 4 | 1,089
22 Jul 2010  #22
How to wreck a society, written by Ariën.

In Holland, in 2009, we've had 4.608.112 singles. I took these figures from the CBS, and these figures resemble both men and women from the age group 20-65. So there were actually more singles in 2009 if you count all the people who were 18-20. We have 16,5 million people in total. 4,6 million people are single. I think I can safely state that's 25% of our total population, and if you look at the age groups I think 89% of all the young people here are single. Let's say 20-35. Actually, I have another figure. From the age group of 25 to 35, of which only 5% all the guys here are actually married. For girls this percentage is higher, but I'm not going to tell you why because I've already told you that a hundred times.

Anyway, goodluck with materialism and intellectual progress. Just pretend like you didn't hear me, or tell me that I'm whining, as usual. How to avoid this doomscenario in Poland? Well, I suggest you read my previous post, and find a young, healthy and above all, nice Polish guy who really cares about you, or keep treating money as your God. Just remember what I've posted, because Poland will look like this within fifteen years if girls are going to listen to all this marketing crap.

;)
plk123 8 | 4,153
22 Jul 2010  #23
Why do you ask only foreigners?

she didn't you dolt.

AJ, well said mang
Chicago Pollock 7 | 504
22 Jul 2010  #24
Some of you like to complain that Poland didn't come up to your expectations or ponder why Poles can't makie it and other western nations could.
So this is a thread of random ideas how & what way make live comfy and easy in every aspects you would like to mention. Maybe u as foreigners can pick some good ideas and solutions from ur country which can work in Poland ;)

Poland needs to spend more time looking after it's affairs at home. For instance they shouldn't be purchasing natural gas from the Russkies, instead they should gasify coal from their coal mines. Maybe with their large agricultural sector they could develop an ethanol industry and reduce their importation of liquid energy. Poland should keep the zloty and forget about joining the Euro. Poland needs to look inward for a change. In a sense Poland needs to become more Polish.
OP zetigrek
22 Jul 2010  #25
AJ
According to Alvin Toffler it is not possible to stop world changing in direction you have mentioned. It would mean we have to stop all developement on the field of science and every other aspect. And its imposible.

Why do you ask only foreigners?

Because they see Poland from different perspective and they maybe say something intresting.

A healthy and productive society is a society in which people stand together and value

Mind that Poland isn't traditionally protestant society and values you say about aren't common and have never existed here.
More "traditional" for ppl to keep his own besiness going regardless to others.

We have 16,5 million people in total. 4,6 million people are single.

Wow, thats pretty shocking...

Poland needs to spend more time looking after it's affairs at home.

Its really tough tast knowing that in Poland we don't have any independent media.
A J 4 | 1,089
22 Jul 2010  #26
According to Alvin Toffler it is not possible to stop world changing in direction you have mentioned.

Well, the world doesn't always have to behave according to Alvin Toffler. He's just one man, just like I am.

''Society needs people who take care of the elderly and who know how to be compassionate and honest. Society needs people who work in hospitals. Society needs all kinds of skills that are not just cognitive; They're emotional, they're affectional. You can't run the society on data and computers alone.''

It's what Alvin Toffler said.

;)

Mind that Poland isn't traditionally protestant society and values you say about aren't common and have never existed here.

So Lech Wałęsa never existed? Solidarność never existed? I think some Polish people are perfectly capable of standing together if they wanted to, regardless of where they're standing in the political spectrum.

More "traditional" for ppl to keep his own besiness going regardless to others.

We're not exactly a traditionally Protestant country either. You think it's any different here? Well, it really isn't. But have fun with your money I suppose, and I sure do hope that it keeps you warm at night and that it whispers all kinds of nice things in your ears.

Wow, thats pretty shocking...

It is, and it hurts to be in the middle of all that. This is no way to treat young people, and nothing good will come of it.

:S
Seanus 15 | 19,715
22 Jul 2010  #27
And the third
southern 75 | 7,102
22 Jul 2010  #28
What would u do to make life in poland better??

I would bring bouzoukia.
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,884
22 Jul 2010  #29
apparently Palikot feels as though putting Kaczynski on an early retirement would make life better in Poland.

haha, the guy offered to pay Kaczynski's salary over the next 4 years till he's of retirement age in the agreement that he leaves the Polish government and never comes back. priceless.

Deputy calls on your blog Jaroslaw Kaczynski withdrawn from political life . It provides , however, that he is ready for the next four years to pay the equivalent of the President of the Law and Justice parliamentary salaries. Janusz Palikot Jaroslaw Kaczynski offered early retirement - but not just political , " but the true" ...
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,445
22 Jul 2010  #30
haha, the guy offered to pay Kaczynski's salary over the next 4 years till he's of retirement age in the agreement that he leaves the Polish government and never comes back. priceless.

do you think that Duck is gonna take it? How much is he offering anyways, or he just said it in the gist.


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