Where did I make projections and then argue against them?
I'll let you figure that one out.
You said that there is no need for immigration but instead there should be fair opportunities at home (in order to encourage people to have more children). Unless you were talking about something else, out of context, and didn't clarify.
No, you seem a bit confused. Here's what I wrote:
Family friendly economic policies and fair opportunities at home for Poles would do that better (than immigration.]
This is what you wrote:
Foreigner4: Family friendly economic policies Example?
you asked ME to provide examples instead to a point that YOU had proposed.
No, I asked you to be creative and try to get in on the conversation....you obviously have taken some sort of offense to that.
These are countries where people have some of the lowest birthrates in the world, which further proves that simply better economic conditions are not likely to increase the birth rates.
No, I would say that's a poor conclusion to draw from such limited data. Moreover, I did not state that simply better economic conditions are likely to increase birth rates. I never said that so this is one of those projections I referred to earlier. It looks more and more as though you read something I wrote, came to some ill-founded conclusions and want me to argue with you from a position you've defined for me. Sorry but you're off-base on this.
As you see above, none of these countries enjoy a birth rates high enough to sustain the population and growth without resorting to brining in immigrants to fill the gap.
Most of those societies DON'T need to expand their populations so I think you should take that into consideration when reaching your conclusions.
Again, I have to be sure here, what claim do you think I'm making and how does a general rise in the earnings of women in Australia, Scandinavia, Canada and the UK in any way undermine that?
Delphi and I have had a nice conversation sharing ideas even though we first disagreed (and likely still do) on a couple things. It's not too late for you to join us.
One thing you have to be careful of when touting your data is how incomplete it is. Any increase in wage must be compared to inflation and buying power in that society.
In the cases of Canada, U.S., U.K. and Germany people may make more than 30 years ago but how many families in those countries can survive on one person's income and afford a home compared to that same time gap?