So far your information has been anecdotal but I'd be interested to hear what you have to say.
Oh great, Ms. "My relatives and friends told me..." is calling my information anecdotal. Well Mr. Pot, let me bring you back to a comment you made which I responded to:
Secondly most immigrants in Canada are extremely well integrated, Canada has a very good record of integration. Most immigrants learn English very quickly.
One poster replied:
You obviously have never been there. Try asking for directions in english in Winnipeg's French Quarter.
I relayed my own anecdote which happened to two people and you replied
This is your perception only
So no, that is at least the perception of the 2 people it happened to, my friend whose sister was involved, me and Meathead responded that were dead wrong earlier. That means it isn't my perception only. It is the perception of people who choose to look at the subject of immigration and integration objectively based on our experiences or the word of people who have zero reason to lie about such matters. Do you understand that?
The fall in church going among the white population is nothing to do with non white immigration, church attendance is falling in countries that have only tiny numbers of non whites.
Both he and I disagree. Seeing as we've lived there and you've visited I am going to go out on a limb and say non-white immigration has affected just about everything in Canada in one way or another. Saying it hasn't just tells me you're afraid to admit to any drawbacks to immigration. And that's the thing, I'm not against immigration but I am against how immigration is currently happening. I believe it is a vehicle in which global disparity will continue to travel upwards. This isn't a white vs. nonwhite thing to me.
I like and support diversity. I think policies that are too open, as they are now, are not the recipe for long term success but a road to instability, dependency and inequality.
One discussion I had with my friend (Ojibwe) was about the Canadian gov't allowing the Mines to fly in Chinese workers to do the job.
He kind of laughed and said people were complaining foreigners were taking their jobs.
I asked him what he thought and he said the workers should have the right to claim citizenship and that would settle everything.
He asked me what I thought and I said the contractor gets to make massive profits, cut down it's overhead, plunder resources and what do the tax payers get out of it?
the point of that anecdote (guilty as charged) is that one has to look at these situations from a variety of angles and I believe you have chosen not to do that.
The Chinese do maintain their culture and language well but they are good citizens and are very proud of living in Canada
I'm sure they are very proud but as their numbers increase (and their numbers are really increasing), their need to integrate decreases and that's just a fact of human nature. It's not unheard of that they only do business with other Chinese and pay in cash as often as possible to avoid taxes. I've heard from a few Desi people the same is also true in their communities in Canada.
You've picked the wrong woman here!!!
Well colour me surprised. I believe you and admire you for that taking advantage of those experiences. I apologize.
My point is that after having colonized Canada and the USA the white immigrants could not manage without non white immigrants so encouraged immigration, now some of the whites are shouting that too many non whites are immigrating!
Well your point lacks merit mainly because you haven't factored in time with your rant against white North Americans. Firstly, white immigrants managed just fine without any non-white immigrants for about a 2000 km radius where I'm from. They worked themselves to death and endured some of the most bitter cold in the world in isolation because there was no other choice. You should not insult them or their efforts to succeed.
Secondly and most importantly what do you mean by "some of the whites?" Are you talking about the people that you think "could not manage without non white immigrants and so encouraged immigration?" Because those people are dead. People today are not the "villainous" white men that exist in your imagination of the past.
The people who are talking about slowing down immigration are people who benefit least of all from increased immigration and they're the ones paying the most taxes.
I doubt the First Nations or Inuits want any of us there!
Which takes us back to my earlier question; seeing as you feel so compelled to draw upon the colonization/invasion of North America from the perspective of those who were invaded then ask yourself why you advocate others to accept invasion? I am still waiting for your answer to that one.
You seem to object to non white immigration but feel that white immigration is acceptable, how can you justify that?
Very very easily depending on where we're talking about of course. I wouldn't advocate massive amounts of white people from around the world setting up shop in Africa (oh, would you look at that rape and murder is on the forecast for South Africa) and I wouldn't advocate massive amounts of Chinese people setting up shop in Poland either. I don't even think it's a good idea for massive numbers of Poles to set up shop in the UK. If I had my way, people would first have fair opportunities for gainful employment at home before they were forced to move due to circumstances.
Please don't accuse me of lying it's rude!
Well then please don't be so rude as to lie.
You're claiming Indian or Chinese societies are as or more ethnically diverse than those in the UK, USA, France, Canada or even Germany.
Are there a great many different ethnicities and cultures in India and China?
You said yes and I'll take your word for it.
Is that even remotely close to the diversity in countries which accept so many immigrants? No, not even close.
If there are 15 Chinese people in China that are ethnically different from each other and they all emigrate to the UK then they are still ethnically different and they have added to the diversity in their new home -you can't just call them Chinese once they arrive in the UK and ignore that they're ethnically different from other Chinese immigrants. You also have to add their genetic diversity to all the different ethnicities from Asia, Africa, Europe, South America, Australia and North America that live in the UK (for example). We can do that same comparison for the US, France, Canada and Germany.
Agree or disagree?