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HIV/AIDS growing in Poland - more fear of pregnancy than STDs


Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
25 Nov 2015  #1
More and more Poles especially in the 20-39 age group are carriers of HIV, Rzeczpospolita reported Poland's National Public Health Institute as sayin on their website. During the first half of 2015 179 new cases were registered compared with a mere 46 in the same period last year. Young Poles are more concerned about avoiding pregnancy than STDs, the report stated. Many believe HIV/AIDS is restricted to high-risk groups such as "drug addicts, homosexuals and celebrities fond of experimenting," explained MD Barbara Daniluk-Kula of the National AIDS Centre.

www4.rp.pl/Spoleczenstwo/311249813-Mlodzi-wola-HIV-niz-dziecko.html
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,665
25 Nov 2015  #2
Many believe HIV/AIDS is restricted to

I think this is true yes. There was never any public information campaign about AIDS in Poland as far as I know. Therefore there is a level of ignorance and fear about it.

While in UK (nanny state perhaps? ) back in the 80s every household in the country received a leaflet with accurate HIV/AIDS info, together with other public information sources.

So I was a bit taken aback when my Polish husband nearly went mad at me when he found that my home hairdresser was HIV positive. He said he 'didnt want him in the flat in case he infected the children'...:).

Another Polish person I knew told my son 'you dont need to use a condom, it is silly'.

Sometimes the 'nanny state' drives me mad - other times I am glad it is there.
nothanks - | 640
25 Nov 2015  #3
Majority of new HIV cases fall under 3 categories [In the 1st World]

- needle drugs
- homosexuality
- blacks
dolnoslask
25 Nov 2015  #4
Migrants that have not been through medical screening, pose a huge threat , not only HIV but also Ebola, Terrorist groups have threatened in the past that they will send over migrants who carry disease

Poland should adopt the same rules as Dubai does as part of its residency process

Medical screening in Dubai includes :-

AIDS/HIV
Hepatitis B
Leprosy
Syphilis
Tuberculosis (TB)

I also think testing for drug addiction would also be appropriate. All costs should be at the applicants expense

If the applicant fails any of the tests they should be deported.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,648
25 Nov 2015  #5
Poland should adopt the same rules as Dubai does as part of its residency process

Wouldn't be a bad idea. It's actually a good question why the EU doesn't have such rules - Russia also demands HIV testing from memory.
dolnoslask
25 Nov 2015  #6
Delph good question "why the EU doesn't have such rules" maybe its against EU rules to test, maybe someone will answer this for us.

I don't think that this process can do anything to stem HIV/AIDS that is in the Polish population, but at least it will stop more carriers coming in.
Yosemite 2 | 88
25 Nov 2015  #7
maybe someone will answer this for us.

I'll have a crack, maybe because being HIV positive for many is case of environmental exposure as opposed to ignorance. Drug addiction is also an enviromental specific. The EU way of life is pro freedom and pro empathetic. Imagine if you were unlucky enough to be born in such a harsh environment wanting to better your life by moving abroad but couldnt as a result of common, ignorant, monetary based public opnion.
Levi 12 | 450
25 Nov 2015  #8
That is what happen when you bring Multiculturalism.

Because with multiculturalism come:

1st: Sexual Depravation. A Person that fuc* with 10 others per night, FOR SURE have a bigger chance of have a exploding condom and transmit Aids.

2nd: Illegal Immigrants that go to Poland without the proper health checks and transmit the disease. EVERY immigrant should have his health checke on arrival.
InPolska 11 | 1,821
25 Nov 2015  #9
The problem is that it is not easy when drug addict or (and?) homosexual to get tested in Poland as so much stigmatization. Under such conditions, it is unlikely that a lof of drug addicts and homosexuals go forward to be tested. Last (?) year, there was a report about young homosexuals saying how difficult it is to live in shi@hole towns even nowadays in Poland so they had to hide their being homosexuals.

In view of so much intolerance and narrow mind, it is to be expected that people won't go forward and take tests as they don't want to be labelled "x" or "y".

Why being suprised, Pol? ;)
nothanks - | 640
25 Nov 2015  #10
Yes, we should be more supportive of drug addicts. We don't want to hurt their precious little feelings

I can see it now: #addictslivesmatter
dolnoslask
25 Nov 2015  #11
Inpolska, I agree maybe Poland should help and encourage its citizens to come forward for testing if they have concerns about their health,

Maybe anonymous testing of citizens would help the HIV / Hep situation in Poland
InPolska 11 | 1,821
25 Nov 2015  #12
Absolutely, Dolno! When people know that they'll be judged and labelled 'X" or "Y" (in very small towns, it could be big problem), people who might be sick don't check whether they are or not and on top of that they risk contaminating others.
nothanks - | 640
25 Nov 2015  #13
Being a drug addict is not the norm.
Being a homosexual is not the norm.

So they are rightfully so being judged and labels.
dolnoslask
25 Nov 2015  #14
I think if the stigma of disease is such a problem the the patient should be treated anonymously and if needs be in a different district , at least the patient will be taught about the risks of transmission and if HIV positive can be given medication to prevent full blown aids, the church should also be in support of this.
InPolska 11 | 1,821
25 Nov 2015  #15
@Nothans: welcome to Afghanistan! ;) @Dolno: imagine how it can be especially in Polska B! ;). Whoever is "different" has to hide not to be stigmatized and it is normal that people who might be sick don't go forward for tests (I would not). The person shall be labelled as "drug addict" or "homosexual" or whatever and then hard to survive (including work...) in the town/village ;).
nothanks - | 640
25 Nov 2015  #16
Most Westeners
- are NOT drug addicts
- are NOT homosexuals

no need to focus on Afghanistan, this is the situation in the West and the entire human species.
dolnoslask
25 Nov 2015  #17
Someone explained to me what the definition of Polska B is, and I am definitely in the B zone.

some people need to understand that you can get HIV without being a drug addict or being homosexual, you may have gone to your local tattoo parlor or dentist who may have omitted to sterilize a piece of equipment, or you may of had a blood transfusion in the days when testing for HIV was not in place.

More education is needed in Poland , I think a few posters have proved that point here.
InPolska 11 | 1,821
25 Nov 2015  #18
@Nothanks: you think and talk exactly like those barbarians! Drug addicts as well as alcoholics for instance are sick and need to be treated, not stigmatized and condemned. The article talks about Poland. In the West, people are not stigmatized and do take tests and if sick they are treated.
nothanks - | 640
25 Nov 2015  #19
Let's be honest, the West is a ghetto dump. It is in need of people being stigmatized and condemned.
InPolska 11 | 1,821
25 Nov 2015  #20
@Dolno: absolutely, more education is needed in Poland and also in .... PF! ;). True, like you write, people can get aids without being drug addicts or homosexuals but of course too hard to undestand for all the "talibans" above.
nothanks - | 640
25 Nov 2015  #21
@Dolno: absolutely, more education is needed! ;). True, like you write, people can get aids without being drug addicts or homosexuals but of course too hard to undestand for all the "talibans" above.

Charlie Sheen was a victim!
dolnoslask
25 Nov 2015  #22
"ghetto dump. It is in need of people being stigmatized and condemned" Adolf thought that too of the Jews,

Why should people who are sick with HIV , maybe through no fault of their own be stigmatized and condemned.

Why were my family stigmatized and condemned for being Polish and thrown into a concentration camp is Siberia.
nothanks - | 640
25 Nov 2015  #23
Hitler has been vindicated in his dislike of Jews. Do you watch Western media? It's almost entirely jew owned

Because the vast majority of people sick with HIV - is fault of their own

Why did the Soviets put us in gulags? Pretty obvious, they didn't even spare their own.
Yosemite 2 | 88
25 Nov 2015  #24
Being a drug addict is not the norm.

That depends on your definition of drug addict, ALL smokers are drug addicts, ALL people who regularly use drugs illegal or otherwise are by definition drug addicts.

Normal by your definition is what the media tells you, what is really normal?
nothanks - | 640
25 Nov 2015  #25
A normal human being has a job

You need to pass a drug test to find a job

Thus someone failing a drug test is not normal
smurf 39 | 1,981
25 Nov 2015  #26
You need to pass a drug test to find a job

No you don't.
I've worked since I finished school, never once been asked to do a drug test.
Maybe it's coz I never worked crap jobs like stacking shelves or serving burgers to drunks.
Yosemite 2 | 88
25 Nov 2015  #27
A normal human being has a job

Its normal to be an economic slave? In a world of abundance? Going to work for 45 hours a per week from the age of 20 right up till around 65 is not fcuking normal mate.
dolnoslask
25 Nov 2015  #28
I think there are many tests (Including HIV) when someone joins the Hitler youth, looks like there is a recent member here.
nothanks - | 640
25 Nov 2015  #29
Going to work for 45 hours a per week from the age of 20 right up till around 65 is not fcuking normal mate.

Hahah. Well someone needs to work buddy. I understand and have gotten burned out from certain jobs.

I lived in Southern California and I disagree with the regions decision to Go-Weed. Living among a population on daily drugs is essentially the direction USA has taken. At-least in a city like San Diego it seems to slightly curb the DUI epidemic
Wulkan - | 3,251
25 Nov 2015  #30
Maybe it's coz I never worked crap jobs

For 2600zl a month it must have been a dream job indeed.

There was never any public information campaign about AIDS in Poland as far as I know.

So you don't know then. Media covered AIDS problem pretty well when I lived in Poland and everybody knew how you can get infected by the virus.


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