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not_polish
11 Aug 2015  #1
Hi!

I noticed that in small towns every Polish peasant tells every other peasant how to live his live in every single small matter; it infuriates everyone (naturally) but they still do this to one another. It leads to hatred, distrust and frustration. Yet they still do this to one another. Constantly.

Does anyone know how this started?
smurf 39 | 1,982
11 Aug 2015  #2
Does anyone know how this started?

It was started by a troll on the internet who kept making bullsh!t forum threads even though he wasn't a registered member of the forum.

It all ended badly though, his body was found in a forest close to a disused coalmine in Bytom. A host of wild boar were demolishing his body when Police finally found his body. It's believed that 50 homesless men had also had their way with the body before the boars were given their turn.

A disgusting end, but y'know, that's Bytom baby.
OP not_polish
11 Aug 2015  #3
Appeal to violence. Not promising....
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
11 Aug 2015  #4
I noticed that in small towns every Polish peasant tells every other peasant how to live his live in every single small matter; it infuriates everyone (naturally) but they still do this to one another. It leads to hatred, distrust and frustration. Yet they still do this to one another. Constantly.

Given that there are no peasants in Poland, how could you possibly have observed this?
Roger5 1 | 1,458
11 Aug 2015  #5
It leads to hatred

That much is clear from your posts today. Is your frustration the result of your experience of moving so often between "every major city", or has something recently happened to make you so angry with and dismissive of Polish society?
OP not_polish
11 Aug 2015  #6
No, my opinions are almost identical to most urban Polish people I know. They find the customs of rural Poland to be barbaric and pathetic.

Then again, my circle of friends, both Polish and non-Polish are not rednecks but educated European people.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
11 Aug 2015  #7
No, my opinions are almost identical to most urban Polish people I know. They find the customs of rural Poland to be barbaric and pathetic.

No, your opinions (like yesterday) are yet again offensive towards Polish people. There are no peasants in Polish society.
OP not_polish
11 Aug 2015  #8
Naw...not really.

You are just being politically correct.

Rustic, uneducated people exist in every country.

When people say Americans are dumb rednecks, I usually saw that there is a degree of truth in it.

I certainly do not wish those people violence, the way you do me.
Roger5 1 | 1,458
11 Aug 2015  #9
They find the customs of rural Poland to be barbaric and pathetic.

I live in a village in eastern Poland, and what you describe is alien to me. The religious fundamentalists leave us alone, the village drunks do not knock on our door, the people are friendly and helpful, and I thoroughly enjoy living here.
OP not_polish
11 Aug 2015  #10
I live in Malopolska. I fully believe that your experiences may be completely different from mine, and have no intention of denying that your experiences are legit. Here the religious nutcases are out of control.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
11 Aug 2015  #11
I live in a village in eastern Poland, and what you describe is alien to me. The religious fundamentalists leave us alone, the village drunks do not knock on our door, the people are friendly and helpful, and I thoroughly enjoy living here.

Yes, what he describes seems to be something from another country, not Poland.

Here the religious nutcases are out of control.

Could you perhaps go into detail about how Polish citizens are "out of control"?

(where's Polonius when you need him?)
OP not_polish
11 Aug 2015  #12
Papists trying to force papism on me. For example. And when they realize I don't swing that way give me brutally mean looks.

I don't enjoy such people's company.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
11 Aug 2015  #13
Papists trying to force papism on me. For example. And when they realize I don't swing that way give me brutally mean looks.

How do they force religion on you?
OP not_polish
11 Aug 2015  #14
By trying to make me go to their church.

surelly you are aware that the Catholic religion has a history of torturing and killing anyone who will not submit them, right?

While it is illegal to kill people for not being Catholic today (because of the Englightment), I'm sure there are some that would want this to exist today.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
11 Aug 2015  #15
By trying to make me go to their church.

How do they try and make you go to the Church?

No-one's ever tried to make me go to Church here, not even the head of the local Church who I'm on very good terms with.

Perhaps you're imagining it, given that less than 40% of Poles go to church?

And what the RCC did 400 years ago is hardly relevant today.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,664
11 Aug 2015  #16
By trying to make me go to their church.

well here is a plan, (you can practice at home in the bathroom mirror) just say NO...
OP not_polish
11 Aug 2015  #17
I think I have already described it.

I don't need a nationalist-zealot like you to make me doubt my experiences, there are dozens of Polish friends I have that know exactly what I know and have experienced.

Regarding the Papacy, they still do force their religion wherever they can, just like Muslims.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
11 Aug 2015  #18
I don't need a nationalist-zealot like you to make me doubt my experiences, there are dozens of Polish friends I have that know exactly what I know and have experienced.

I don't think these experiences happened, given that most posters on this forum have never experienced what you claim to have.

But go on, please tell us how they try and force you. I'm curious.
OP not_polish
11 Aug 2015  #19
"just say NO..."

I do!

And then I am considered an out-group member from that day on.

This is basic psychology for religious fundamentalists.

Can't imagine that none of the zealous polish patriots are completely unaware of this here....
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,664
11 Aug 2015  #20
And then I am considered an out-group member from that day on.

well get over it. its your choice to live there after all.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
11 Aug 2015  #21
And then I am considered an out-group member from that day on.

What kind of groups are you associating with?

I mean, if you're attending meetings of the All-Polish Catholic Forever Youth Brigade, it's quite normal that you would be an outcast for rejecting religion.

Can't imagine that none of the zealous polish patriots are completely unaware of this here....

I'm just wondering which non-religious groups try and force religion on you.
OP not_polish
11 Aug 2015  #22
No "non-religous" group tries to force it on me, just the average uneducated hillbilly here who believes everything that comes out of a guy with a pointy hat who claims to be a virgin (which of course, is a lie).
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
11 Aug 2015  #23
But how do they do it?

I'm just really curious as to how they go about trying to force it on you. I mean, are they approaching you on the street, or what?
OP not_polish
11 Aug 2015  #24
"well get over it. its your choice to live there after all."

Does the Polish constitution say I have to accept the papist superstition to live here?

I thought Poland was trying to become Westernized?

Again, I want to ask:

Does the Polish constitution say I have to accept the papist superstition to live here?

Is Poland a theocracy?

Are muslims, jews, christians (non-papists) allowed equal rights here according to the zealous crew of posters on polish forums?

Just curious.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
11 Aug 2015  #25
Just curious.

I'm rather curious how religion has been forced upon you unwillingly.

Do they force you into meetings where they demand that you accept Catholicism?
OP not_polish
11 Aug 2015  #26
I think I have already described it.

If you would like a real life comparison, I'd suggest you try to live in Saudi Arabia in a small village for awhile.

Certainly, you would not experience this in America, Germany or Britain.

AGAIN, I'd like to ask:

Does the Polish constitution say I have to accept the papist superstition to live here?

Is Poland a theocracy?

Are Muslims, Jews, Christians (non-papists) allowed equal rights here according to the zealous crew of posters on polish forums?
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
11 Aug 2015  #27
I think I have already described it.

You haven't described at all how they attempt to force religion on you.

If you would like a real life comparison, I'd suggest you try to live in Saudi Arabia in a small village for awhile.

You're rather familiar with Saudi Arabia, aren't you Levi?
Player1
11 Aug 2015  #28
@not_polish, Why dont you just move to Germany. You seem to be in love with that country, whereas you regard Poland as being of the same ilk as Saudi Arabia. Just move.
smurf 39 | 1,982
11 Aug 2015  #29
Appeal to violence. Not promising....

Certainly it is not, run for the hills while you still have your wits about you.
Webkot
11 Aug 2015  #30
Not_Polish
Sorry but you appear to be talking ;hogwash' re being forced to go to Catholic church.
In the time I have been living here we have had 4 visits from Jehovah Witness and One from the local Priest, he was polite and welcomed us.I am non Catholic and he made no suggestion I attend church and I would imagine that is the experience of most of the non-Catholics on this forum.


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