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Car test..The Polish equivalent of the MOT


drew128 3 | 55    
5 Oct 2009  #1
Just put my car through the Polish version of the MOT, 3 minutes and see you again in 2 years time.
dnz 17 | 710    
5 Oct 2009  #2
that explains why there are so many wrecks on the road, I know for a fact our maluch wouldn't pass a UK MOT,
OP drew128 3 | 55    
5 Oct 2009  #3
I did challenge him on the time it took, his answer its a 3 year old car and the condition looks good, a car in bad condition or old would get closer attention. There was a car in before me and that was up on ramps and was still there when I left, so I assume they eye it up rather than follow a printed check list. All I got was rolling road for testing brakes, check to see if the lights worked and aligned.

I always enjoyed the British MOT at our local garage. The owner would spend 20 minutes complaining about everything under the sun, spend the rest of the test on his mobile, ask me to check the brake lights, then tell me its failed and will cost £1,000 to fix, laugh and give me the pass paper.
dnz 17 | 710    
5 Oct 2009  #4
I always thought cars due there first MOT often needed loads doing to them as they often havent been looked at for the first 3 years?
OP drew128 3 | 55    
5 Oct 2009  #5
I would have thought anyone with the brass to buy new here would be looking after it. Mine was a crashed car from Germany, found one with a good repair to it, it has 20,000 km service intervals, so its gets a service every 2 or 3 months, our local mechanic is a very good guy, he advised buying this car after checking it, his word is good enough for me, so its a car that gets looked at a lot. Its not let me down in 79,000km I have had it and gone through the test, so this one at least is a good un.
dnz 17 | 710    
5 Oct 2009  #6
Fair point really, I suppose its in the UK where new cars get abused company cars, and leased cars in general.
OP drew128 3 | 55    
5 Oct 2009  #7
I have to say some of the cars we looked at were shocking, I got this one last year before moved here, the wife and her sister bought second hand as well this year, so we did a fair old distance looking. We took our guy with us each time, pay him a good fee to pick the good ones for us. I would not buy a car without someone who knows their stuff along for the ride.

I had a look at new here in Poland, but they are silly money for the same thing you get back in the UK and I couldn't get the right toys in the Polish specced ones, so went second hand, so far so good.
delphiandomine 85 | 17,602    
6 Oct 2009  #8
I know for a fact our maluch wouldn't pass a UK MOT,

I still don't know how it passed a Polish one!

Maybe they were too busy laughing to actually test it?
dnz 17 | 710    
6 Oct 2009  #9
Maybe they were too busy laughing to actually test it?

Thats probably the case actually, I've been too busy laughing at it to actually drive it so maybe they expect it not to cover too many miles in a year as not many drivers could get behind the wheel without laughing so much they are unable to drive.

Inspired thinking by fiat :D
chief    
16 Apr 2010  #10
can i get a polish mot for my uk reisterd motorbike.

thanks

mike
maklik - | 2    
12 May 2010  #11
I am bringing a 1997 Volvo to Poland. It has been cared for and looked-after and has just passed a thorough technical screening in the Netherlands. Will it be necessary to have the car re-tested in Poland? I thought that EU vehicles could be reregistered in poland without the test, but obviously the recycling "tax" would be payable. Any knowledgeable readers out there?

Fanie
dnz 17 | 710    
12 May 2010  #12
Apparently as long as it has a valid MOT (safety check) from an EU member state the polish registration organisation has to by law honour it so no retesting.

It is worth bearing in mind that Poland is only in the EU when it suits them (ie recieving handouts) so they might try to make things difficult for you.
maklik - | 2    
12 May 2010  #13
Thanks, also for the warning. Looking at other postings, you seem to know a lot...I'll keep that in mind when languishing in jail!
delphiandomine 85 | 17,602    
12 May 2010  #14
Apparently as long as it has a valid MOT (safety check) from an EU member state the polish registration organisation has to by law honour it so no retesting.

It's not a problem for LHD vehicles, I mean, half the cars on the road are from Germany anyway ;)
dnz 17 | 710    
12 May 2010  #15
Or rebuilt write offs which shouldn't be allowed back on the road at all.
InWroclaw 89 | 1,916    
13 Apr 2014  #16
What's the deal with a car that's bez przegład (no MOT, no roadworthiness test recently done and passed)

Talking to a Wrocław secondhand car dealer, he dabbles in used cars, lower end of the market, alright mate, she's a beaut, one careful lady owner only drove it to church on Sundays, mate.

The car has insurance for another 4 months. But it doesn't have a valid przegład. I don't know if it's failed or not had one done this year.

Any way of checking whether it had one done but failed? This assumes the dealer says it's "not had one done this year but should sail through no problem at all mate".

Any website that reveals all?

What happens if the car has no przegład -- I assume a fine (mandat) if stopped by the police, but can I take the car for its przegład as soon as I can get an appointment or would they need some piece of paperwork, such as a registration in my name, before they do the test? If a temporary registration is needed, where do I get it? The police or the vehicle office?

Best advice might be not to touch a car without its valid przegład, but it's useful to know what happens otherwise because there might be a genuine seller at some point.
Tamarisk    
13 Apr 2014  #17
Talking to a Wrocław secondhand car dealer, he dabbles in used cars, lower end of the market, alright mate, she's a beaut, one careful lady owner only drove it to church on Sundays, mate.

Yes, but he doesn't mention what when the lady parks it, the car is driven roughly up on the curb!

This seems to be the norm for parking a car on the street here.
InWroclaw 89 | 1,916    
13 Apr 2014  #18
This seems to be the norm for parking a car on the street here.

I know, and if the kerb or footpath is high enough then it can damage the suspension to park like that, even briefly. One wheel on and one wheel off parking is permitted on some UK streets, mostly in London, but the height of the footpath tend to be fairly shallow and the wheel on the footpath must not cross the line or asphalt section of the footpath. Where it's permitted, there is a sign to say so.

Anyway(s), back to topic. If anyone knows about buying sans MOT, please post. I've asked a couple of Poles I chat to offline and they are not at all sure because they always seem to be buying from main dealers or new.
peter_olsztyn 6 | 1,100    
13 Apr 2014  #19
Best advice might be not to touch a car without its valid przegład

yup :)

What happens if the car has no przegład

In case of accident an insurance company can break off policy.

Theoreticaly you need a tow truck, pass the mot then you have to visit wydział komunikacji.
During mot no one asks if you are car owner but they ask for 99zł :)
InWroclaw 89 | 1,916    
14 Apr 2014  #20
Thanks Peter.

In the UK, if ever you get a car there, sans MOT is not usually good news. If the car has its road tax (VED, Vehicle Excise Duty) the offence is relatively minor for no MOT but I wouldn't advise having no MOT because sometimes insurers use that as an excuse not to pay a claim. However, in the UK that get out is not automatic, and the car may still be considered roadworthy and the insurer unable to wriggle away if there's an accident. If a car has no road tax, it can only be driven to a reasonably near test centre and back again. There are question marks about whether any other parking or stops can be made on the way, but a judge some years ago ruled in the motorist's favour when the police caught him in a petrol station buying a newspaper in a car with no road tax on his way to an MOT test. The fine for having no road tax is very large, but you can only buy it if you have a test pass certificate, a registration document, and verifiable insurance. When the road tax period exceeds the validity period of the test period, the offence of being on the road is serious but not as serious as not paying road tax. An MOT in the UK costs around 250 ZL for a car (varies as some garages do discounts), but is perhaps more detailed than the Poland test. Because some garages might fail a car just to make work for themselves, some drivers use independent test centres run by their local authority (local government) and there a car is tested with no partiality because they don't do any repairs and have no incentive to pass or fail anything. In my experience, however, such centres can be very thorough and very strict -- which is good if you want to be very safe, but not so good if they spot something to fail which another garage test centre inspector would not have not or simply thought good enough and tolerated.

(For any American readers, garage here means shop or workshop that repairs vehicles)
snaps 4 | 27    
14 Apr 2014  #21
Someone on another thread said they were able to get their uk registered car tested here in poland? I asked at my local test center and they laughed at me?
InWroclaw 89 | 1,916    
14 Apr 2014  #22
There was some ruling, and so Poland may have to start accepting UK cars. However, someone else here (probably Dougpol1) thought it likely that Poland would just accept a fine and continue to refuse to register RHD cars. I don't know if this will happen or not.

This news report says 'Poland will be forced' to allow RHD vehicles [warsawvoice.pl/WVpage/pages/article.php/27723/news]
Harry    
14 Apr 2014  #23
During mot no one asks if you are car owner but they ask for 99zł :)

I know of places that don't even ask to see the car.

Someone on another thread said they were able to get their uk registered car tested here in poland? I asked at my local test center and they laughed at me?

It was possible to do in the past (but difficult). Then when Poland joined the EU the test regulations here were changed to make having the steering wheel on the correct side an automatic fail. However, Poland has recently been told that it will have to let people register RHD cars (although I personally believe that Poland could almost certainly get away with requiring all RHD cars to have camera+screen systems fitted).
peter_olsztyn 6 | 1,100    
15 Apr 2014  #24
I know of places that don't even ask to see the car.

Would you like share this information with us? We would like to make our country a better place :)
hobbsie    
25 May 2014  #25
Most responsible owners of new cars would at least get it serviced once a year before mot was due,and most car makers have a warranty,and you would need to have your car serviced at a vat registered garage to comply to makers warranties,but not necessary to go to a main dealer,but make sure garage is vat registered,or warranty nil and void!
Afash    
1 Apr 2018  #26
Hai. I am actualy planing to buy a 1998 model audi a6 diesel. And the seller said it needs the MOT. The car has run arouns 320000kms. I have checked it visualy and driven it around the yard, and i am personaly satisfied with it. And i am willing to buy it also as they offer half the price of the actual market price. So if anyone who knows more how the polish MOT test is and how hard it is to get the test pass. And what is the average time and money required to do the test?
terri 1 | 1,572    
1 Apr 2018  #27
I would not buy a car without a valid MOT. What happens if the work needed to put the car through the MOT is more than the value of the car? Who will pay for the work then?

I think that he seller is trying to pull a fast one on you. If he is genuine, ask him to get the MOT himself and then sell you the car. Never trust anyone selling a used car - if it is a lemon - you will be stuck with it with no comeback on anyone.

rp.pl/Prawo-drogowe/311099938-Przeglad-techniczny-auta---zmiany-od-13-listopada-2017.html
jon357 64 | 14,382    
1 Apr 2018  #28
I would not buy a car without a valid MO

Nor me.
Aside from the cost, it is putting people's lives at risk.

Never trust anyone selling a used car

Ever.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,453    
1 Apr 2018  #29
Do the main dealers also cheat?
terri 1 | 1,572    
1 Apr 2018  #30
When buying a second-hand car it is up to YOU to satisfy yourself that the car is roadworthy and legal and that it is the owner of the car that is selling the car. When selling a car, a house or anything else the seller will only point out the best parts and will generally not tell you that this or that needs doing. Later, he will of course deny that he previously knew of any faults and it would be impossible to prove that he did in fact know of them.

There is a difference in law when buying from a private person and when buying from an official second hand car dealer. You have absolutely no comeback on the private person but you may have on a dealer.


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