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Trying to get visitation and partial custody of my son in Poland. (Fathers rights?)


jakub_a 1 | 4
27 Mar 2017  #1
My ex left the United States pregnant and did not tell me until she left. Since then I have been trying to get visitation and partial custody of my son. I have a lawyer in Poland, but the process is slow and it looks like the courts favor the mother. She limited me to seeing him on Skype once a month for 10 minutes and now she has stopped doing that. I send her money every month for him and am trying everything I can to see him.

Is there anyone else out there in the same situation that can give me some advice? It's been a year and a half and I'm still trying.

Please help
Marsupial - | 888
29 Mar 2017  #2
You have the same chances there as here in Australia. Fark all. All favour mother, father is d.ck on a stick.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,671
29 Mar 2017  #3
well maybe you should know there is no such thing as 'fathers rights' (or mother's rights) - it is the child who has rights - you have responsibilities.

In addition there is no such thing as 'custody' - your child is not a criminal. It is highly unlikely that any family court would award residence to someone who does not live in the same country, or someone who was not married to the mother.

Sorry to sound harsh, but the words 'rights' and 'custody' in this situation really get on my nerves.
DominicB - | 2,672
29 Mar 2017  #4
It is highly unlikely that any family court would award residence to someone who does not live in the same country, or someone who was not married to the mother.

... or, in this case, someone who has never been within thousands of miles of said child. As far as I understood from the OP, they have never been on the same side of the Atlantic together. Mom left when she was pregnant.

Also, I'm getting a stronger vibe of spite here than of "love".
OP jakub_a 1 | 4
29 Mar 2017  #5
than

She is definitely spiteful towards me. The main problem is that our son deserves to grow up knowing both his mother and father. I told here that there are a lot of guys out there that just plain walk away from the situation and don't care. I'm doing what I can because I want to be there for him and give him what he needs. And I believe that includes having a relationship with BOTH parents.

I know that it is HIGHLY unlikely that I will get them to move back to the U.S. But that doesn't change the fact that he should opportunity to visit with me and get to know me.
DominicB - | 2,672
29 Mar 2017  #6
But that doesn't change the fact that he should opportunity to visit with me and get to know me.

That is for the court to decide, and, as you say, it is highly unlikely that they will decide in your favor. Frankly, I think you are wasting your time and money on a fool's errand. Your lawyer will appreciate the extra income, though.
OP jakub_a 1 | 4
29 Mar 2017  #7
@DominicB

I'm going to keep going to do everything I can. My son deserves it.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,625
29 Mar 2017  #8
I strongly recommend you buy and read this book: amazon.com/s?rh=n%3A133140011%2Ck%3AIdiots\c+Liars\c+Psychos+and+Me%3A+My+Bizarre+Journey+Through+the+Polish+Legal+System&keywords=Idiots%2C+Liars%2C+Psychos+and+Me%3A+My+Bizarre+Journey+Through+the+Polish+Legal+System&ie=UTF8

When you read it, you'll understand.
OP jakub_a 1 | 4
29 Mar 2017  #9
@delphiandomine

Do you live in or are you from Poland?
delphiandomine 83 | 17,625
29 Mar 2017  #10
Do you live in or are you from Poland?

I live here. I've never heard of anyone being successful in your situation.
OP jakub_a 1 | 4
28 Jun 2017  #11
I read the book and actually found the guy on FB. He hasn't seen his daughter in 10 years. I got a court order in April saying that I get to see my son on Skype every Wednesday and Saturday. Also, I'm supposed to be able to go visit with 2 weeks notice to her. She has yet to obey the court order.

This is ridiculous! If I miss a payment or stop payment, there is hell to pay. But she she withhold him from me the punishment is minimal.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,625
28 Jun 2017  #12
Unfortunately, what he says in the book is true. The courts here are heavily biased towards women, partially because of the Catholic view of traditional families.

Your job is to provide for the child's upbringing, nothing more.


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