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Question about bureaucracy in Poland.


f stop 25 | 2,513
17 Apr 2012 #1
Yesterday I did my taxes. All the necessary paperwork was sent to me, clearly marked, I played some computer game for 20 minutes and voilà, taxes are done. 28% sucked to the government, to spend however they please.. but bloody well done!

I realized that one of the things that makes me nervous about Poland is her bureaucracy. I don't want to play head games with some drone to get a stamp anymore. That would seriously lower my quality of life.

Are things getting better over there?
Can you pay all your bills electronically?
jasondmzk
17 Apr 2012 #2
Man, you waited till like, the very last second, didn't ya? I actually felt like Billy Badass, getting my stuff filed within a week of getting my W-2s. It turns out I would have been better off waiting like you. I couldn't file electronically because my wife didn't get her American social security card until a week after I mailed in my return. Which meant I didn't qualify for the earned income credit, costing me basically, like, a kajillion bucks. And they say procrastinating doesn't pay. It literally DOES.
OP f stop 25 | 2,513
17 Apr 2012 #3
It's a sadistic tradition, doing it on a very last day.
Funny thing about EIC. I did my son's taxes, too, and he got back more than he put in. Essentially, the government took couple hundred of my dollars and just handed it to him.
BackwardPolak
17 Apr 2012 #4
I realized that one of the things that makes me nervous about Poland is her bureaucracy. I don't want to play head games with some drone to get a stamp anymore. That would seriously lower my quality of life.
Are things getting better over there?
Can you pay all your bills electronically?

Oh no,we in Poland are not as forward as you AMERICANS and we don't even have internet.
Now,PIT in Poland can be filed via internet (e-deklaracje) for at least 4 years.
OP f stop 25 | 2,513
17 Apr 2012 #5
Oh no,we in Poland are not as forward as you AMERICANS and we don't even have internet.

What a way to start your aswer. Someone likes to fight..
jon357 63 | 14,139
17 Apr 2012 #6
Are things getting better over there?
Can you pay all your bills electronically?

Some. Paying them at the corner shop (like in England) is becoming more popular. That has its drawbacks. A couple of weeks ago I was at the end of a long line of people behind a woman in her nineties who was paying all her bills (several thousand zloties' worth in small bills).

Now,PIT in Poland can be filed via internet (e-deklaracje) for at least 4 years.

It still doesn't make the system quicker, or easier, or the tax office more pleasant to deal with.
BackwardPolak
17 Apr 2012 #7
Some. Paying them at the corner shop (like in England) is becoming more popular.

Not some,all bills can be paid via internet but of course it doesn't mean that everyone does it that way.

It still doesn't make the system quicker, or easier, or the tax office more pleasant to deal with.

Where did I say it does?This whole taxes thing is very unpleasant as far as I am concerned and in my opinion should be abolished.
jon357 63 | 14,139
17 Apr 2012 #8
Not some,all bills can be paid via internet but of course it doesn't mean that everyone does it that way.

Plenty of people on my osiedle do that.

Where did I say it does?This whole taxes thing is very unpleasant as far as I am concerned and in my opinion should be abolished.

If you abolished tax - who pays for the schools, the roads, national defence, embassies, prisons etc?
OP f stop 25 | 2,513
17 Apr 2012 #9
OK.. what does it takes to have the utilities turned on and off?
ShawnH 8 | 1,498
17 Apr 2012 #10
This whole taxes thing is very unpleasant as far as I am concerned and in my opinion should be abolished.

Look at how that worked out for the Greeks.
BackwardPolak
17 Apr 2012 #11
OK.. what does it takes to have the utilities turned on and off?

To do that you have to stand on your head and clap your ears.
What do you think it takes?You have to make a phone call to utility company(ies).Geez.When have you been in Poland last time,in 1968?

OK, here is something what will make you happy,it is much faster to get/replace a driver licence in the US.

If you abolished tax - who pays for the schools, the roads, national defence, embassies, prisons etc?

I don't care,out of the things listed I only need roads.Why should I pay for the rest???I don't see any reason.
OP f stop 25 | 2,513
18 Apr 2012 #12
You have to make a phone call to utility company(ies).

That's not what I heard. You sure your mom doesn't make these arrangements for you?
jon357 63 | 14,139
18 Apr 2012 #13
Why should I pay for the rest?

Hey, so let the prisoners out round where you live - you might want to build a high wall with razor wire - after all, the police are paid out of taxes too.


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