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EU nationals with a child and in cohabitation - long term Poland registration questions, job offer


Helegal
17 Apr 2016 #1
Hi there-

I'm potentially moving to Poland and working for a software developer as an EU citizen from the United Kingdom. I'm currently residing in Finland, where I met my current partner (also a EU citizen, we're not married, just live together). We've had a child together and I was wondering if they would also be eligible for residency beyond the initial 3 months, under joint custody and direct family ties?

To recap:

1: I'm an EU citizen with a potential job offer in Poland.
2: I'm in a relationship (cohabitation) with another EU national, she has no job offer.
3: We have a child together and have joint custody of the child.
4: We'd like to stay on Poland long term.
5: I'd be supporting both my partner and child; they would be my dependents.
6: My partner would be looking after our child (child is 4 months old) but would like the option of looking for work.

Thanks a lot for any information you can provide.

Kind Regards,
jon357 71 | 21,107
17 Apr 2016 #2
I was wondering if they would also be eligible for residency beyond the initial 3 months

Any citizen of an EU member state has the right to live here in Poland. The three months thing is an irrelevance - basically a legacy of the pre-EU system. They can't make an EU citizen move elsewhere, nor can they enforce any conditions on your stay. The residence documents are not a permit, nor can you be asked to leave if you choose not to apply for one.

You may choose to register residence, however whether you do or whether you don't, they won't deport your baby!
Harry
17 Apr 2016 #3
I was wondering if they would also be eligible for residency beyond the initial 3 months, under joint custody and direct family ties?

You can stay here as long as you want, they can too. You basically cannot be deported from Poland or punished for not registering here.
Marsupial - | 886
17 Apr 2016 #4
Eu citizen, basically you can do whatever until whenever. Enjoy your stay.
OP Helegal
17 Apr 2016 #5
Thanks for the answers. In Finland you need to register in order to receive a social security number, get social services etc.

Is this the case in Poland?
jon357 71 | 21,107
17 Apr 2016 #6
Sort of, except there aren't really social services that would be relevant. You will have to pay social insurance anyway, registered or not.
Wulkan - | 3,243
17 Apr 2016 #7
4: We'd like to stay on Poland long term.

What's so special about Poland that wants you to stay long term? Just curious.
OP Helegal
17 Apr 2016 #8
What about health care? Prenatal care? The job offer provides private health care for the family I believe, however I need to investigate prenatal etc.

Wanting to stay long term may be the wrong term. I guess we want the option too.

Beep. Anyone?
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
18 Apr 2016 #9
It's all pretty straightforward and works pretty much like in any other EU country (except the UK/Ireland).

No need for so many questions. If you're working here, you should be paying health insurance in some way or form, which will cover your family.
OP Helegal
18 Apr 2016 #10
Thanks for the reply.

Your last comment kind of brings me back to my original post, what constitutes family in Poland? In Finland having shared custody of a child is enough for my girlfriend to be considered a dependent. Is it the same in Poland? There's no information on any websites I read.

Thanks once again.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
18 Apr 2016 #11
Are you Finnish? I've been to Helsinki and loved it, and it's always been my dream to go and live in Finland.

Anyway, yeah, in this case, it's pretty much straightforward. You're living together, she has a source of income (you) and there's a child involved.
Lyzko 36 | 8,468
18 Apr 2016 #12
Curious, Helegal, whether you have begun to learn Polish. Although I scarcely can say to know much Finnish at all, many say Polish is nearly as complex:-) Then that's only an opinion. Certainly, English will stand you in relatively good stead among the younger, affluent set. Apart from that, unlike the Finns, the Poles lag behind much of Europe in terms of English knowledge.

Finland belongs to the European Monetary Union and as such, falls within the Eurozone. Poland, doesn't, and so this might pose some difficulty, given your particular situation aka status with the European Community (of which Finland is most certainly a member of long standing).

:-)
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
18 Apr 2016 #13
You're living together, she has a source of income (you) and there's a child involved.

Just had a thought : actually, it might not be. I've just remembered that Poland doesn't really recognise cohabiting relationships. The child is a non-issue (she's your dependent) - but they might be irritating about the partner's legal status.

Best bet is to ask Migrant Info Point for the latest information - migrant.poznan.pl/en - they are very very nice and helpful.


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