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Medical Malpractice in Poland - seeking accountability?


OP Foreigner4 12 | 1,768
24 Oct 2011 #121
I just find it disgusting that a foreigner would be critical of the public health system

Disgusting? Your feigned indignation is pathetic and your thought process is revolting. It suggests one accept incompetence should a loved one be the victim of it. It suggests a person's right to say what they think changes depending on if they are "from" a place or not.

How about if they go to a place then return to where they were born, then would it be okay to criticize some aspect of life in the other country? Does it change depending on how much money the spent there? What would it depend on?

These are still rhetorical- you cannot answer them without your thought process coming off more childish and simplistic than it already is.
polmed 1 | 216
24 Oct 2011 #122
on the basis of your profile photo

You don`t have to look at my photo ! What are you blabbering about ? You are so ......./........ but I dont comment about your look . I really don`t care what you think about me . So leave your comments for yourself . Why is my look so big issue for you ?
Seanus 15 | 19,706
24 Oct 2011 #123
Are you a victim of medical/surgical malpractice, polonthemeds? I was just wondering. You seem to be interested in the thread.
polmed 1 | 216
24 Oct 2011 #124
I see that you are reading my posts with such an interest which cant be compared to any other poster . Your wife would be jealous of your attention of my person , Sean , if she found out the amount of time you devote to me .
Wroclaw 44 | 5,384
24 Oct 2011 #125
can we stick to the correct usernames, please. it may be seen as insulting to do otherwise. thank you.
wielki pan 2 | 250
24 Oct 2011 #126
It suggests a person's right to say what they think changes depending on if they are "from" a place or not.

lol... when you came to Poland you must have done your homework and worked out what the medical system was like, options
1. Accept it... 2... take out private cover.3... shake the dust off your shoes and leave.. There are many people who love Poland and or would love to live there. You are pathetic... what right have you being a quest of a country to have such a attitude...
hythorn 3 | 580
25 Oct 2011 #127
For 4 has clearly had a loved one who has suffered at the hands of a Polish medical professional to the extent that he is asking for advice as to what his legal position might be in taking the hospital to court for its negligence. You appear to find this funny.
PWEI 3 | 612
25 Oct 2011 #129
options 1. Accept it... 2... take out private cover.3... shake the dust off your shoes and leave.

When I pay for something and get a shiitty product in return, I will complain about it. If you don't like it, I don't care.

what right have you being a quest of a country to have such a attitude...

Says the man who says that only the insane rely on the Polish medical system.

sounds about right;)

Not quite: the word hypocritical needs to be added to the sentence.
peterweg 37 | 2,319
25 Oct 2011 #130
And remember that last time I checked fewer than half the people in Poland actually pay any tax.

2% of the spend (28billion zloty) on healthcare is PRIVATE not public wbj.pl/article-52858-is-polish-healthcare-largely-private.html

The remainder, 5% is public. Which partly explains the confusing figures.

The UK is 8-12% depending on who you believe, so per capita spending is at least 4x poland and its still considered crap by some.

I wouldn't be surprised if the GP's over here make about 10% of that.

Student nurses start at 2000-2500 per month. Senior Nurses are going to earn double or triple that.

Doctors earn several times as much again, so 20k per month seems probable; and its the figure my wife quoted.

I just find it disgusting that a foreigner would be critical of the public health system

Seems to be a commonly held view amongst hospital staff that Poland's system is very underfunded and a bit **** as a result. Poles are quite welcome to criticise the NHS, along with the rest of the British who also like to complain about it.

However my wife was shocked on how good British hospitals were in comparison to Poland.
PWEI 3 | 612
25 Oct 2011 #131
Student nurses start at 2000-2500 per month. Senior Nurses are going to earn double or triple that.

Are you saying that Polish nurses start at PLN 2000-2500 per month?
polmed 1 | 216
25 Oct 2011 #132
asking for advice as to what his legal position might be in taking the hospital to court for its negligence.

It is very suspicious that he expects to get such legal advice on the internet forum instead of going to a lawyer .
PWEI 3 | 612
25 Oct 2011 #133
He'll definitely get better legal advice here than he would from a certain supposed lawyer who answers to the name Sanrise.
hythorn 3 | 580
25 Oct 2011 #134
For4 is a decent guy and is doing the right thing by asking for opinions rather than just forking out for legal advice without seeing if he has a hope of winning in court

I remember reading about the nurses in a hospital (I think it was Lodz) who were taking photographs of premature babies holding them in their pockets. These were babies that were born months premature and they would stand there with a tiny baby in their breast pocket

they were all sacked, every last one of them. Then reinstated.
OP Foreigner4 12 | 1,768
25 Oct 2011 #135
I've already received information from some of you that is very helpful in corroborating the veracity of other information.

wielki pan: you couldn't have chosen a more ironic nickname for yourself. pwei and hythorn stated it as succinctly as it could be done- good job guys:)

Polmed: What's suspicious about what I've done?
Is that the best you can do? When solid criticism is put forth, you just throw out a blanket statement of my seeking information in one was as suspicious? It'd be suspicious if I spent a lot of energy towards legal matters when the medical situation is ongoing. You are being defensive, no one is criticizing you personally. No one is accusing you of doing a bad job. You, considering your chosen profession, ought to be more objective.
peterweg 37 | 2,319
25 Oct 2011 #136
Are you saying that Polish nurses start at PLN 2000-2500 per month?

No, I was mistaken. 1700-2000 is the starting depending on where and what they are doing.
bledi 2 | 11
25 Oct 2011 #137
Wow and I was thinking that these things exists only in Albania!!!!
wielki pan 2 | 250
25 Oct 2011 #138
wielki pan: you couldn't have chosen a more ironic nickname for yourself

Good example that the pen is mightier than the sword!! Sorry to have stretched the friendship Foreigner4 I have have not attacked you personally, just stating a point of view.. Malpractice in the medical system occurs in every country, theres probally more claims in a country like the United States. I hold my ground in what I have said, like in any other country people who can afford it should take out private cover, everyone knows that Hospitals in Poland are no 5 star hotels, no toilet paper, have to buy your own medications, if fact a lot of people have their meal and bed sheets brought in by family or friends... we all know that... it has always been the case. I don't like hearing people having a one eye opinion of the Hospital system as I don't like people saying Poland has the worst drivers including having ones cars damaged only occurs in that country.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,384
25 Oct 2011 #139
if fact a lot of people have their meal and bed sheets brought in by family or friends...

some folks might have extra meals brought in by family/friends, but Polish hospitals don't starve anyone. sometimes the food is ok.
i've never heard of or seen anyone using their own bedding.

i speak as someone who has been through the system more than once.
wielki pan 2 | 250
25 Oct 2011 #140
Polish hospitals don't starve anyone. sometimes the food is ok.i've never heard of or seen anyone using their own bedding.

Sure, one of my relatives was in hospital (small town) we had to change her sheets and bring additional food not a nice place to be in but nothing wrong with the hospital staff..
OP Foreigner4 12 | 1,768
25 Oct 2011 #141
You seem to have created a persona which comes to the imaginary rescue of all things Polish whether legitimately criticized or not. You've been hearing what you want to hear. Not once did I write anything negative about anything except an ASPECT of the hospital system WHICH TREATED TWO POLISH PEOPLE. And I commented on an ASPECT of driving in Poland. You interpreted that to mean something else and is a mark against your ability to process the written word.

Malpractice in the medical system occurs in every country

So what? Should a person accept it when it happens to them because it "occurs in every country?"

Sorry to have stretched the friendship Foreigner4 I have have not attacked you personally, just stating a point of view.

There was no friendship and you can make whatever personal attacks you want on me as a) they amount to p*ss all b) it demonstrates you never managed to comprehend anything beyond what you imagined was written.
observer
26 Oct 2011 #142
You, considering your chosen profession, ought to be more objective.

I think you have a chip on your shoulder.
OP Foreigner4 12 | 1,768
26 Oct 2011 #143
I think you have an inability to discern the difference between observation and comment. Go back to the stands and do what you're good at.
Mwyka11
30 Mar 2019 #144
Hi - if you want to connect, feel free. My dad recently died while visiting family in Poland. He got anesthesia and never got the procedure (I'll leave it at that for now). We are taking legal action. I'm based in the US.
Cargo pants
30 Mar 2019 #145
You can sue from the USA and take the verdict to be imposed in Poland
JonathanCanada
1 Apr 2019 #146
If u want to sue them, i recommend people from Stawicka Zych law firm - their main specialty is compensation.
They won for me a case - compensation for a broken arm in a car accident.


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